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A40860 The famous tryal in B.R. between Thomas Neale, Esq. and the late Lady Theadosia Ivy the 4th of June, 1684, before the Right Honourable the late Lord Jeffreys, lord chief justice of England, for part of Shadwell in the county of Middlesex ... together with a pamphlet heretofore writ ... by Sir Thomas Ivy ... Mossam, Elam.; Ivy, Theadosia Stepkins, Lady, d. 1694 or 5?; Neale, Thomas, d. 1699?; Ivie, Thomas. Alimony arraigned, or, The remonstrance and humble appeal of Thomas Ivie, Esq.; England and Wales. Court of King's Bench. 1696 (1696) Wing F386; ESTC R35557 155,074 101

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of the most Noble Reign to have and to hold Mr. Att. Gen. This doth vest the Lands in question with others in Vivold and Salvago as a Security for their Money Mr. Sol. Gen. Now we shall shew a Lease from Hill to Marcellus Hall Clerk Reads This Indenture made the Eleventh day of November in the Thirty Seventh year of the Reign of Henry the Eighth between Richard Hill Citizen and Mercer of London of the one partie and Marcellus Hall of Ratcliff Miller of the other partie Witnesseth That the said Richard Hill for the sum of Six pounds of lawful Money of England to him in hand paid at the ensealing and delivery hereof whereof the said Richard Hill hereby acknowledgeth himself to be fully satisfied contented and paid and whereof he doth clearly acquit and discharge the said Marcellus Hall his Executors and Administrators by these Presents hath Demised Granted and to Farm Letten and by these Presents doth Demise Grant and to Farm Lett unto the said Marcellus Hall a parcel of Marsh Ground lying and being at the East end of the Marsh that Butts on Ratcliff Hilly Marsh Wall-bank or Wall belonging and the Well Shadwell containing by estimation Eleven Acres and an Half more or less abutting on the Thames Wall on the party of the South to the Lands called the Deans Linches on the party of the North and on the Wall that reaches from the Linches to the Island by the Pond on the West with all the Foreland and Soyle All which Marsh Land is in the Parish of Stebunheath To have and to hold the said Marsh Land Foreland and Soyle to the said Marcellus Hall from the Feast of the Annunciation of St. Mary the Virgin next coming for Thirty and Four Years Mr. Att. Gen. This was a Lease made to their Miller and contains Eleven Acres and half an Acre which we shall shew is just exactly the contents of our Land Next then we shall come to the Conveyance made to Thomas Stepkin which will bring us to our Title L.C.I. Read the Reservation of that Lease Clerk Reads Yielding and paying therefore yearly and every year unto the said Richard Hill his Executors and Assigns Three pounds of good and lawful Money of England at four Terms of the year that is to say the Feast of the Nativity of St. Iohn the Baptist St. Michael the Archangel the Birth of our Lord and the Annunciation of St. Mary the Virgin Mr. S. Pemberton Pray my Lord we desire they may give some account of this Lease where they had it and how they came by it M. Att. Gen. You have had it in your hands you see what it is Mr. S. Pemberton Yes and therefore we desire to know some thing about it because we find Knowles hand to it Mr. Att. Gen. We can give you a better account of it than you think for but that will let you into an hours wrangle more which is all you have to say for yourselves We have it disprove it Mr. S. Pemberton You have it we see but remember you will give no account where you had it But then we desire to ask Mr. Knowles a Question Whether my Lady Ivy was with him Mr. Att. Gen. My Lord we desire we may go on and give our Evidence intire they would fain break in upon us and take up another hour in quarrelling with our Witness When we hear them in their time offer to impeach the Validity of the Deed then will be our time to justifie it and I doubt not but we shall give a satisfactory account of it Pray will you give an account of the Deed you snap'd up the last time L.C.I. Nay nay Gentlemen we cannot take up our time in your Dialogues and little heats Do you not hinder them and we shall see they shall not hinder you when it comes to your turn Clerk This Deed has been read for the Plaintiff and Defendant and is marked so Mr. Att. Gen. It has been twice read before L.C.I. Well will you go Gentlemen Mr. Sol. Gen. Then we shall shew this Deed Poll next Clerk This also is marked to have been read twice Reads This is dated 16 Apr. in the 6th year of King Edward the Sixth To all Faithful People to whom this present Writing shall come I Richard Hill Citizen and Mercer of London send Greeting in our Lord God Everlasting Know ye that I the said Richard Hill for the sum of One hundred and thirty pounds of lawful Money of England by Thomas Stepkins alias Stipkin of the Parish of St. Mary Matfellen alias Whitechappel in the County of Middlesex Beer-brewer unto me the said Richard Hill in hand paid wherewith I confess my self to be well and truly satisfied L.C.I. Upon whose account is it that my Brother Gregory comes here Mr. S. Stringer My Lord Mr. Baron Gregory was desired by the Plaintiff to be here and as soon as we come to our Reply we shall ask him some Questions if he please to stay we will dispatch him so soon as we can Mr. Att. Gen. Nay rather then trouble Mr. Baron to stay we yield he should be Examined now Mr. Bar. Gregory I am not in so much hast my Lord but I can stay a while and not break in upon the middle of an Evidence for me L.C.I. If you please they consent you may be Examined and they may be long Mr. Bar. Gregory I would not interrupt the course of Evidence L.C.I. Nay we will take you at your word but if it be long pray remember we would have eased you but you Complemented yourself out of it now you are like to abide-by it awhile I assure you Brother Go on Clerk Reads And do therefore acquit and exonerate the said Thomas Stepkin alias Stipkin his have given enfeoffed sold granted and by this my present writing confirmed all those my four and twenty Acres and an half of Marsh Land measured by the Rod or Pole lying in Wapping Marsh Three Acres of which are lying adjoyning on the west side of the Mill that butts on the Hilly Bank or way leading to Ratcliff Town called Ratcliff Mill with the Bank or Wall thereto belonging and the Well adjoyning to the way that goeth up to the Linches called Shadwel lying in the east end of the Marsh and all the next piece west adjoyning to the same containing by estimation one Acre and the Pond and two Acres adjoyning on the west side six Acres lying in the bottom of the Hilly Linches adjoyning Northwest on the Wall that reaches from the Linches to the Island by the Pond All which Eleven Acres and an half of Marsh-Land are in the holding of Marcellus Hall Miller and also the Bank or Wall Flood or Pond adjoyning west on the said Eleven Acres and an half containing by estimation of measure two Acres and also all that parcel late divided into two and now or late in the Tenure of Richard Hill Butcher containing by estimation of measure six Acres and
also all that parcel West adjoyning to the six Acres which I the said Richard Hill hold in my own hand and also that is to say all that parcel with the Bank or Wall Island and Pond containing by estimation of measure five Acres which last Thirteen Acres I bought of and had conveyed to me and my Heirs from one Iohn St All which four and twenty Acres and an half more or less of Marsh Land abutteth on the Thames Wall on the part of the South to the Lands of the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of St. Paul called the Linches on the part of the North on the aforesaid Mill on the part of the East and on Twenty Acres of the said Thomas Stepkin on the part of the west and also all the Thames Bank or Wall belonging to the said four and twenty Acres and an half of Marsh Land which said piece or parcel of Wall doth abut on the South-end of the said on part of the East and on the Bank or Wall in the occupying of William Knevet on the part of the west All which Marsh Land Bank or Wall are in the East end of Waping Marsh abutting on the aforesaid Mill and Hilly Bank aforesaid in the way leading to the Town of Ratcliff aforesaid And which Four and twenty Acres are part and parcel of One hundred and thirty Acres which was heretofore continually for the most part overflown and drowned with the water of the River of Thames and all and singular Messuages Cottages Houses Edifices Orchards Tofts Foreland and Soyl which were the said Thomas Stepkinses before the overflowing and all and singular Messuages Edifices Cottages Cellars Sollars Orchards Woods and Underwoods and all other the rest of my Heriditaments whatsoever in the Parish and Mannor of Stepney in the County of Middlesex Mr. Att. Gen. Now we shall produce a Lease from Stepkins to Marcellus Hall Mr. Serj. Pembleton I hope they will give some account of this Deed first Mr. Att. Gen. When you say any thing against it Mr. Serjeant we will but we desire now to go on with our Evidence Read that Deed. Clerk Reads This has been read before and is marked This Indenture made the Twentieth Day of April in the Sixth Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord King Edward the Sixth by the Grace of God King of England France and Ireland Betwixt Thomas Stepkin otherwise Stipkin of the Parish of St. Mary Mackfellon in the County of Middlesex without Algate Beer Brewer of the one part and Marcellus Hall of Ratcliff Miller of the other part Witnesseth that the said Thomas Stepkin otherwise Stipkin for the Sum of 50 l. of lawful Money of England to the said Thomas Stepkin otherwise Stipkin by the said Marcellus Hall at the ensealing hereof well and truly paid and satisfied and of the same doth clearly acquit and discharge the said Marcellus Hall his Executors and Assignes and every of them by these Presents hath demised granted betaken and to farm letten and by these Presents doth demise grant betake and to Farm lett unto the said Marcellus Hall all those his Parcels of Marsh-land lying and joining on the West side of Hilly-bank or way called Ratcliff-way and the Well adjoining to the way that goeth up to the Lynches called Shadwell lying in the East end of the Marsh containing by Estimation of Measure three Acres and an half and all the next piece West adjoining to the same containing by Estimation of Measure Six Acres and the Pond and Two Acres adjoining on the West side of the Six Acres lying on the Bottom of the Hilly-Lynches adjoining North-West on the Wall which reacheth from the Lynches to the Island by the Pond all which eleven Acres and an half little more or less abutteth on the Thames Wall on the party of the South to the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of St. Paul called the Lynches on the party of the North and on the Wall by the Pond on the party of the West and also all the Thames Wall belonging to the said Eleven Acres and an half of Meadow or Marsh-land which said Piece or Parcel of Bank or Wall doth abutt on the South End of the aforesaid Hilly-bank or way reaching to the East side of it which leadeth to Ratcliff Town on the party of the East and on the Wall in the Occupation of Iohn Everard on the Party of the West and also all the Foreland and Soyl down to the Low-Water-Mark of the River of Thames belonging to the Premises all which in the East End of Wapping-Marsh abutting on the aforesaid Mill and the Mill Hilly-bank or way leading as aforesaid in the Parish and Mannor of Stebunheath otherwise Stepney in the County of Middlesex and now in the holding of the said Marcellus Hall to have and to hold all the said Parcels of Marsh-land Foreland and Soyle and every part and Parcel thereof to the said Marcellus Hall his Executors and Assignes from the Feast of the Annunciation of St. Mary the Virgin before the Date hereof to the End and Term of One Hundred Twenty and Eight Years thence next ensuing yielding Mr. Sol. Gen. Read the Proviso L. C. I. Read the Reservation of the Rent Clerk reads Yielding and paying therefore yearly for the same to the said Thomas Stepkins his Heirs and Assignes one Pepper Corn at the Feast of the Annunciation Mr. Sol. Gen. Now read the Proviso Clerk Reads And the said Marcellus Hall for himself his Executors Assignes Covenanteth and granteth to and with the said Thomas Stepkins his Heirs and Assignes that he the said Marcellus Hall his Executors and Assignes shall and will bear all manner of Charges And it is further covenanted granted and agreed between the said Parties that it shall not be lawful for the said Marcellus Hall his Executors or Assignes to alienate or assigne this present Term of Years or any part thereof without the special License or Consent of the said Thomas Stepkins his Heirs and Assignes Mr. Williams Pray my Lord will you give me leave to ask a Question of Mr. Banister Mr. Att. Gen. My Lord he has not been examined yet they cannot under Favour ask him any Questions Mr. Williams You have sworn him and so he is under an Oath and we may doubtless examine him as your Witness to this Deed that you have read Is that your Name Sir Shewing him the Deed of 16 Apr. Banister This is my Name written by my own Hand Mr. Williams When did you write your Hand there Mr. Banister Banister The 16th of April 1682. Mr. Williams Pray Sir look upon it again Banister This is my hand and I writ it my self when the Deed was found I writ a Paper of such Deeds as were found at the same Instant of time Mr. Williams And you writ it when you found it Banister I writ that Name at that Instant of Time Mr. S. Pemberton When was it do you say Banister The 16th of Sept.
they met and in half an hour Mr. Neale came up stairs after they had changed two or three Complements they came to talk about meeting at Mr. Attorney Generals Chamber in the Temple to Treat about their Controversie Says Mr. Neale let there be a Forfeiture upon it of 50 l. to be paid by him that faills No says Mr. Brian I will make no forfeiture but I will certainly meet there Says Mr. Neale again and I question not but to give such satisfaction as whereby to convince you and my Lady that this is not her Estate I should be glad to hear that says Mr. Brian why I hope you do not think the Deeds are Forged No says Mr. Neale I do not think they are forged Mr. Knowles offered me a long time ago to shew me that Deed and I might have had it in my possession but I would not for if I had I should have been the aptest man in the world to burn it This is all I can say L. C. I. And what is this to the purpose Gentlemen alack a day this is very thin A slight Discourse in a Tavern how can any answer be given to such an Evidence tho' indeed it does not need any pray let not our time be taken up with such trifling stories of a cock and a bull Go on to that which is material Mr. Att. Gen. Now we shall produce a Lease from Marcellus Hall to one Roper of part of this Eleven Acres and an half Clerk reads This Indenture made the 13 day of November in the 2d and 3d years of the Reigns of our Soveraign Lord and Lady Philip and Mary by the Grace of God King and Queen of England Spain France both the Sicilies Ierusalem and Ireland Defenders of the Faith Arch-Dukes of Austria Dukes of Burgundy Millain and Brabant Countess of Hasburg Flanders and Tyrole between Marcellus Hall of Radcliff Miller of the one party and Richard Roper Citizen and Salter of London of the other party witnesseth That the said Marcellus Hall for the sum of Six pounds of good and lawful Money of England to him by the said Richard Roper in hand paid whereof the said Marcellus Hall clearly acquitteth and dischargeth the said Richard Roper his Executors and Assigns and every of them by these presents hath granted demised and to farm letten and by these presents granteth demiseth and to farm letteth to the said Richard Roper a parcel of Marsh Ground lying and being in Waping Marsh at the East end of the Marsh beginning at the west side of the Well which lyeth by the way that leadeth up to the Linches called Shadwel measured by a strait line from the Linches by the west side of the Well to the Thames Wall and reaching West to the way that leadeth up into Radcliff high way containing by estimation of Measure Seven Acres little more or less and the Pond all which Marsh Land abutteth North upon the Linches of the Deart and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of St. Paul and South upon the Thames Wall and also all the Thames Wall belonging to the Seven Acres with the Forland and Soyl down to the Low Water Mark of the River of Thames All which Marsh Lands are lying in the Parish and Mannor of Stebunhith alias Stepney in the County of Middlesex To have and to hold the said parcel of Marsh Ground Wall Fore-Land and Soyl with the appurtenances to the said Richard Roper his Executors and Assigns from the Feast of the Annunciation of our blessed Lady St Mary the Virgin next coming unto the end and term of Four and twenty years from thence next ensuing and fully to be compleated and ended yielding and paying therefore yearly during the said Term to the said Marcellus Hall his Executors and Assigns Three pounds of good and lawful money of England at Four Terms of the year L. C. I. What date is that Deed of Clerk The 13 th of November in the 2 d and 3 d. years of King Philip and Queen Mary Mr. Att. Gen. Now we shall read Stepkinses's Licence to Hall to alien his Term. Clerk Reads To all manner of People to whom this present writing shall come I Thomas Stepkins alias Stipkins of the Parish of Stebunhith alias Stepney in the County of Middlesex Beer Brewer send Greeting in our Lord God Everlasting Whereas I the said Thomas Stepkins in the 16 th of April in the sixth year of Edward the sixth have betaken Eleven Acres and an half of Marsh Land with all the Bank with the Foreland and Soyl down to the Low water mark of the River of Thames that he should not alien or assign the said Lease or Term of years without the special license or consent Now know ye That I the said Thomas Stepkins for divers good causes give Leave and License to the said Marcellus Hall to the Right Worshipful Mr Dean of the Cathedral Church of St. Paul with the Wall Foreland or Soyl under such Covenants as is reserved and contained Mr. Williams I would ask Mr. Banister something about this Deed look upon it Sir Mr. Att. Gen. We have not done with him yet Pray take that Deed out of his hand Mr. S. Pemberton You will let him give some account of it first Mr. Attorney Mr. Att. Gen. You would sain confound him Mr. S. Pemberton He is confounded enough already Mr. Sol. Gen. Now Mr. Banister you have considered of it pray once more look upon the Deed again which he did Was that Deed one that you signed then or no Banister This is my name but I cannot find the Date of this Deed in my paper I cannot tell now whether it be one I found then or no. Mr. Sol. Gen. Did you set your hand to any Deeds that were found there which you did not set down in your paper Banister No not that I know of I do not know I did L. C. I. Prithee where didst thou set thy hand to that Deed. Banister I set my hand to the Deeds that were found there at the House L. C. I. Did you set your hand to none else but what were found there Banister I have set my hand to divers Deeds beside but they are none of those Deeds that are in my paper L. C. I. Where did you set your hand to any Deeds besides Banister To divers Deeds I have set my hand at home L. C. I. Have you to any relating to the Lands in question Banister I do not know that I have set my hand to any Deeds relating to the Lands in question but at Mr. Knowles's L. C. I. To what purpose did you set your Hand and Name to the Deeds you found at Knowles's Banister To the same intent to testifie that I was at the finding of them L. C. I. To what end did you set your Hand to any other Deeds Banister To the intent that I knew better where the Lands did lye then she did and when my Lady found any Deeds I set my Hand to
omitted any thing that is material on either side they have free liberty to remind the Court of it you are the Judges of this Fact whether this Land do of Right belong to the Plaintiff or to the Defendant And I leave it to your Consideration After which the Jury withdrew to consider of their Verdict and the Court arose That Evening the Jury gave in a Private Verdict before a Judge and appearing the next Morning at the Barr were called over and demanded if they did abide by the Verdict they had given the Night before to which they answered yes which being declared by the Secondary to be for the Plaintiff the Jury were discharged Then a Motion was made by the Plaintiffs Counsel that several Deeds produced by the Defendant that were detected of Forgery might be lest in Court in order to have them pursued and convicted of the Forgery The Court upon debate of the Matter and the Plaintiffs Counsel declaring they would prosecute an Information of Forgery the Deeds of the 13th of November and the 22th of December 2 and 3 Phil. and Mar. were ordered to be lest with the Clerk of the Crown till further Order and in the mean time the Plaintiff to have Copies of them from the Clerk and by Rule of Court a Tryal at Barr is ordered in Michaelmas Term. FINIS The land within and belowe the Red Line is the Land that was in 1683 Claimed by the Lady Ivy and is the Seaven Acres of Land in which the Mill Ponds and Ditches did all over dispersed by lie and into which the Water did every Tyde flow and then there was kept in by the Thames or Mill Wall on the South and East Corner of it and by Wall-Marsh Wall now foxes Lane on the West and went out againe at the Ebb and so did drive a tide Mill To which with its appurtences which must have been this Land the Deans of St. Pauls on Record can Shew Title in fee for more then 400 years and their Tenants all along have enjoyed it and yet the dispute by the Lady Ivy rais'd twixt the said Dean and her self has been whether this very ground be parcel of 130 acres drowned Land now called Wapping Marsh that drained but about 150 years since in Henry the Eights time or not 1687. Now in Perpetuam Rei Memoriam and for that Cause this is printed Note THE Survey of the Mannour of Stepney and on Record in that Court by the Lady Ivy first she knowing that it would by the Dean be produced taken in and about the 25th Eliz. with Reference to other Surveys above 100 years older sets out and describes by it self the whole 130 Acres of Marsh and Butts the same on the Lands of the Dean of St. Paul's London held of the Mannour of Stepney towards the East and that is on this very Land The Act for Draining the whole 130 Acres in Henry the Eighth's time Butts the same East on the Town of Ratcliff which is also on this very Land every part of it Eastward of Foxes Lane having always been reckon'd in Ratcliff and ever so named in all Leases and Deeds till Shadwell was by 〈◊〉 of Parliament made a Parish distinct from the Hamlet of Ratcliff in or about 1670. And it is to be Noted That this Land Eastward of Foxes Lane was also among other Surveyed and Sold as 〈◊〉 and Chapters Land in the late Times of Rebellion in or about 1652. and was and is all of it but just ●here the Ditches and Ponds were 8 or 10 foot higher than the Lands Westward of Foxes Lane which are al●●●ed to be part of Stepkins's Lands in the Marsh. And besides this 130 Acres of Marsh so set out as in the Survey aforesaid the said Stepney Survey sets also out for the Dean Shadwel-Field by estimation 20 Acres and Bounded as it really is and 5 Acres of Linches Bounded just as it 〈◊〉 And also this Land as it follows described a Tenement called Derekin and one Tenement late Pinserus de 〈◊〉 together with a Water-Mill divers Tenements Cottages Mansion-Houses Orchards Gardens Ponds 〈◊〉 and Pitles all lying together Butting South on the Thames and on Wall alias Wapping Marsh in part Marked A in the Map and on the Linches in part Marked B and on Ratcliff High-way in part on the North 〈◊〉 on Wall or Wapping Marsh on the West and upon the Lords Waste towards the East held of the Mannour of Stepney freely ever since Richard the Second's time at 33 s. 3 d. ½ per annum quit Rent and the same is still yearly paid for it And yet the Claim made by Lady Ivy as aforesaid would take almost all this whole parcel away and by that 〈◊〉 the Ground wherein these last mentioned Tenements Orchards Gardens Ponds c. belonging to the Dean 〈◊〉 most certainly lye and are so exactly described in the aforesaid Survey and without which there could be to place there to hold and keep Water to drive the said Mill And for the mending that matter the Lady Ivy's Counsel at the last Trial alledged it had once been an Overshot-Mill and so did not want these Ditches and Ponds to hold and keep Water to drive it withal and the better to make that out some Deeds were then given 〈◊〉 Evidence with Stile and Titles before them which were not in use at the time of the date of those Deeds and so they were not believed when produced nor indeed is it sense in any sort to imagine that an Overshot-Mill there being no Water would drive one could in Nature have ever been there And yet Lady Ivy again would pretend to this Land Eastward of Foxes Lane as parcel of Wapping Marsh notwithstanding all this and a Verdict against her at a Trial in 1684. before the Right Honourable George Lord Jeffreyes Baron of Wemme the present Lord Chancellour then Lord Chief Justice of England and what was 〈◊〉 said then and may well be so again against her new found Deeds the finder of which as perjured has already been Pillory'd for it and notwithstanding that her Grandfather Iohn Stepkins Esq 16 Aug. 1615. did ●●mise to one Cayford the three parcels of Marsh lying next to and Westward of Foxes Lane which is held by 〈◊〉 Lease till this day and therein says that it lies at the East end of Wapping Marsh next towards Ratcliff ●●●tting Eastward on the old Wall which divided the same from the Mill-Ditch which lay just East of Foxes L●●e And the Michaelmas-Term following the said Iohn Stepkins suffered a Non-suit in the King's-Bench after 〈◊〉 Ejectment by him brought against the Dean's Lessee for part only of Wall-Marsh-Wall which he said was encroched on the Marsh. And In 1617. the said Stepkins Claiming again the same thing a Verdict on a full Hearing and after a View was in the Common Pleas given against him and allowing the whole Wall to belong to the Dean of St. Paul's And notwithstanding that her