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A70985 The reign of the whore discovered and her ruine seen her merchants the priests examined, and with the Romish church (their elder sister) compared and found agreeable in many things ... : some queries also for those people that pay tythes, and priests that receive tythes, to consider and answer : and whereas their cry hath been loud against us the people of God called Quakers, that we are Jesuits, and Jesuitical, in tryal they are found false accusers, and of the same stock and generation themselves ... : also the sustance of a dispute which was the 15th day of the 2d month, called April 1659, at the Bridge-house in Southwark, between VVilliam Cooper, VVilliam VVhitaker, Thomas VVoodsworth, VVieles, Watkins, Cradicut, and others who profess themselves ministers of Christ, and some of the people call'd Quakers ... / written in that which gives to see over all the popish train ... W.S. Smith, William, d. 1673.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. Following letter containing the substance of the dispute. 1659 (1659) Wing S204A; ESTC R33983 31,593 40

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ruled them c. Ezech. ch. 34. There is much in these words and this hath been your work as fully and as truly as ever it was the false shepherds work in the time of the Prophet Ezechiel and now is the Lord manifestly appearing to be against ye shepherds and requiring his flock at your hand and is causing you to cease from feeding his flock and also from feeding your selves of his flock and delivering them from your mouths and gathering them from all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day according to Ezechiels Prophesie and this is the Lords own work in this his mighty day and all the hirelings and wolvish Shepherds in whole Christendome shall not be able to withstand and hinder the accomplishing and fulfilling of this the Lords purpose though Gog and Magog beast and false prophet ioyn together yet the Lamb and the Saints shall have the victorie and the Plagues upon the Seat of the great Whore shall be poured and the tongue of the Egyptian sea shall be dryed up and the waters which hath overflowed the highest Mountain shall abate and be dried up and the ship-masters the Parish-masters trade shall fail And thou O Mount Seir because thou hast had a perpetuall hatred and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by force of the Sword in the time of their calamity in the time that their iniquity had an end therefore as I live saith the Lord God I will prepare thee unto blood and blood shall pursue thee sith thou hash not-hated blood even blood shall pursue thee c. This is the portion of Cain who was a murtherer from the beginning whose sacrifice is the fruit of that ground which is cursed and which the dew of heaven never descended upon nor the blessing of the most High was ever appointed for And out of this ground out of this earth in which Cain is a Vagabond springeth and ariseth that spirit that can offer a Sacrifice and murther when he hath done and that this spirit is manifest in and among you the Nationall Priests is very evident and sufficiently proved by your own fruits acts and deeds within these few years yea and the cry of innocent blood hath entred the ears of the Lord against you even against you both Priests and people who notwithstanding your pretences of worshipping God have envy the root of murther in your hearts and violence in your hands and while you regard iniquity in your hearts your very prayers are abomination and stinks in the nostrils of the Lord 'T is the Whore and her Merchants that thirsteth after the blood of creatures under the notion of hereticks and that murthers men about matters of Religion the Christians and Christian Ministers never did so neither did they wrestle with flesh and blood but you and the papists are found wrestling with flesh and destroying mens lives and not saving them and you shall have your reward together according to your Work A few Queries for all that own Tythes due to the present Priesthood and for the Priesthood that takes them to consider and answer 1. TO vvhat end do you the people pay tithes and to vvhat end do you the Priests take tithes is your end according to the Lavv of God that gave the tithes to the first Priesthood then people vvhy do you not see them improved to that end and Priests vvhy do you not let them be improved to that end and vvas not the end vvherefore tithes vvas given that the Widovvs Strangers and Fatherlesse might be relieved and maintained by them as vvell as the Priests And had not the Widovvs Strangers and Fatherlesse as much Right to the Tithes as the Leviticall priests had and had they not their maintenance out of them so that there need not be a beggar among them Was not the priests gates to stand open that the Widovvs Strangers and Fatherlesse might be relieved 2. Did not that Lavv of God that gave Tithes to this end ordain a place to put them in a Store-house into vvhich Store-house the people brought them else they robbed God and vvere they not to be taken out of this Store-house as the Widows Strangers Fatherlesse and Priests had need of them and was not this Store-house called Gods House read Mal. 3. 10. How comes it to passe if not by the order of the Pope Bishops and Cardinals and the rest of the popish train that there is no Store-house in whole Christendome so called to put the Tithes of the Land in nor no Widows Strangers and Fatherless relieved according to their necessities out of the Tithes but pope chief Magistrate and priests have and would have them all brought into their own house and how many of their gates stand open that the Widows Strangers and Fatherlesse and poore might passe freely in and take part of the Tithes with them do they not more frequently lye begging at their gates when they are shut and lye about the Streets begging and crying for bread and at the Steeple-houses there is a hideous dolefull noise for bread many times was it so in the time of the Law which commanded Tithes from the people did not the Lord make the Tithes give the poore the Widows the Strangers the Fatherlesse and priests also enough and now people that pay Tithes and priests that receive Tithes whom do you imitate and follow if not the Popish train are not you unlike both Jews and Christians did the true Christians ever pay or receive Tithes 3. Is not this a monstrous Priesthood that hath rose up since the dayes of the Apostles who denied the first priesthood that devours and impropriates all the Tithes to themselves and will not allow the Poore the Widows Strangers and Fatherlesse any share with them of the Tithes though they may be ready to starve for vvant of food and Raiment is not this monstrous priesthood in Christendom vvho call themselves Ministers of the Gospel exceedingly stained and laden with the blood of the poor of the Widows of the Strangers and Fatherless And you the people how can you be clear in paying your tithes to such a priesthood that do not let their gates stand open nor have no Store-house nor that do not improve them to that end that they were improved to in the time of the Law are not all your Tithes given and received to a worse end notwithstanding you say you are Christians and live in the glorious day of the Gospel then they were given and received in the time of the Law How many thousands of poore of Widows Strangers of Fatherlesse and beggars are there in thy borders O Christendome which want relief which the Law of God that gave Tithes to the Priesthood which God ordained provided for by the Tithes that were brought into the Store-house Why must a greedy covetous proud priesthood that is not like the priesthood under the Law nor the Ministers of the Gospel swallow down and devour