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A85229 Conscience satisfied. That there is no warrant for the armes now taken up by subjects. By way of reply unto severall answers made to a treatise formerly published for the resolving of conscience upon the case. Especially unto that which is entituled A fuller answer. By H. Ferne, D.D. &c. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1643 (1643) Wing F791; Thomason E97_7; ESTC R212790 78,496 95

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parliament_n and_o the_o subject_n liberty_n errata_fw-la pag._n 2._o med_n your_o for_o their_o p._n 9_o l._n 13._o your_o for_o their_o p._n 49._o l._n 11._o for_o 5._o r._n 15._o p._n 69._o l._n 9_o natuall_a r._n mutual_a the_o content_n of_o the_o several_a section_n sect._n i._n the_o case_n and_o the_o question_n upon_o it_o state_v sect._n ii_o the_o frame_n of_o this_o government_n as_o it_o be_v phansy_v in_o the_o full_a answer_n sect._n iii_o of_o the_o original_a of_o govern_v power_n of_o monarchy_n and_o of_o the_o beginning_n of_o government_n in_o this_o land_n sect._n iu._n of_o the_o coordination_n of_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n and_o of_o the_o supremacy_n of_o power_n sect._n v._o of_o the_o supply_n which_o be_v phansy_v upon_o the_o former_a coordination_n sect._n vi_o of_o the_o final_a resolution_n of_o this_o state_n judgement_n and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o declare_v law_n sect._n vii_o the_o final_a resolution_n be_v not_o arbitrary_a in_o the_o two_o house_n but_o only_o in_o the_o three_o estate_n sect._n viii_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v by_o the_o answerer_n upon_o the_o first_o section_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n ix_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o second_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n touch_v place_n of_o scripture_n pretend_v for_o or_o allege_v against_o resistance_n sect._n x._o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o three_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xi_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o four_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xii_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o five_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xiii_o a_o answer_n to_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o two_o last_o section_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n finis_fw-la