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A85704 A treatise touching falling from grace. Or Thirteen arguments tending to prove that believers cannot fall from grace, as they were laid down at a conference at Yalding in Kent, examined and answered, with many absurdities of that doctrine shewed. Whereunto is added thirteen reasons to prove that believers may fall totally and finally from grace, and many profitable uses flowing from that doctrine. By John Griffith. Griffith, John, 1622?-1700. 1653 (1653) Wing G2006; Thomason E690_17; ESTC R202323 40,736 75

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me such we grant cannot be plucked out of the hands of Christ that hear his voyce and follow him and he gives them eternall life and they shall never perish if they be ever followers of that which is good h) and follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes i no man as the Text saith can pluck them out of Christs hands but the question is whether Christs sheep may not refuse to hear Christs voyce the time shall come saith Paul when they will not indure sound doctrine but after their owne lusts shall they heap to themselves Teachers having itching eares i therfore it doth not follow but those that are the sheep of Christ may cease to be his sheep by refusing to heare his voyce and by not following of him and so as unfruitfull branches be cut off from Christ so much as to that now to the next Because in the greatest temptation the Lord is pleased to give such assistance that they shall not be tempted above their abilities 1 Co. 10.13 therefore The Apostle in the beginning of the Chapter puts the Corinthians in mind of mercies that were injoyed by the Jews from the first vese to the fifth but saith he with many of them God was not well pleased for they were overthrown in the Wilderness v. 5. Now these things were our examples to the intent we should not lust after evill things as they lusted c. Pray consider was their overthrow our ensamples and cannot we lust be Idolaters tempt Christ murmour as they did and so be overthrown as they were yea sure it is possible for so the Apostle telleth the Hebrewes likewise let us therefore fear lest a promise being left us of entring into his rest any of you should seem to come short of it let us labour therefore to enter into that Rest lest any man fall after the same ensample of unbelief so that it is very possible we may lust and be overthrown as they were for all these things hapned unto them for ensamples and they are written for our admonition upon whom the ends of the world are come wherefore saith he let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall you that think you stand so as it is impossible you should fall take heed be not too high minded but fear for if God spared not the naturall branches take heed least he spare not you Now least they should complain that their temptations were great and so if they did fall they were something excusable he tels them that there hath no temptation taken them but such as was common to man and therefore they must look to it and besides God is faithfull who will not suffer you to be tempted above what you are able to bear but will with the temptation also make away to escape that you may be able to bear it wherefore seeing it is so my deerly beloved flee from Idolatry for if you do not God will overthrow you as he did them Thus may you see that this text is far from proving that Saints cannot fall but doth plainly prove they may Now to the Argument the Consequence drawn from the Reason must needs be denyed to be naturally deducted for Saints must make use of the means viz. the way that God will make for them to escape or else the means will not profit for the tempter and his temptations must be resisted with stedfast faith resist the Divel and he will flee from you therefore blessed are ye when ye endure temptation chap. 1.12 men must resist by faith and endure temptation with patience or else they may be overcome thus is this argument too light also Now to the next The ninth argument is taken from the present joy that Saints have in believing which they could never have if they were not assured to persevere for the future as well as of their standing for the present Therefore c. The affirmitive part of this argument is denyed viz. they could have no joy if they were not asured to persevere for the future as wel as of their standing for the present for Saints ought to rejoice in the Lord yet it is a duty to fear and not to boast as he that putteth off his armour they are assured to stand if they give dilligence to make their calling and election sure in so doing they have assurance and no other wayes in which they may rejoice receiving the end of their faith the salvation of heir souls what no joy for the present I no consolation in Christ no comfort of the Spirit what because we must hold out to the end or else lose our crown Yea much joy in this that if in patient continuance in well doing we seek for glory honour and immortality we shal have eternall life persons may have joy for the present and yet that not hinder but that they may have no assurance to stand for the future but by taking heed c. therefore this argument is too light to prove the affirmation So much as to that now to the next Present keeping from falling with presentment of unspottednesse at the coming of Jsus Christ goeth together Therefore c. First let us examine the text Secondly the Argument Saith the text Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling and to present you faultlesse before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy what doth this prove that present keeping from falling with presentment of unspottednesse goeth together no sure there is not such a conclusion to be drawn from the text But this it proves which we do not deny that God is able to keep them that will be kept by him and that those that will be kept by him he is able to present faultless before his glory I say that will be kept by him for some will not as hath been shewn the argument therefore must be denyed even all of it as too light and not true he will present us unspotted in the presence of his glory if we continue in the faith and not else So much to this argument To the next The eleventh argument is taken from these words Because in the greatest falls the Lord is pleased to put unto his hand that the Saints cannot fall to destruction Psal. 37.24.52.8 Job 17.9 I grant that the Lord doth set to his hand to this end that they viz. believers might not fall to destruction but that he setteth to his hand so that they cannot fall to destruction I deny Let us consider what is to be understood by the Lords hand for the more clear understanding of this argument although the text alledged doth not mention it by the Lords hand is understood the Lords power when Moses doubted in himself how so many thousands should be fed a moneth with flesh in the wildernesse the Lords answeris Is the Lords hand waxd short as if he should say is my power
such like temptations doth Satan assault Christs servants as he did him what need then have they to stand upon their watch and to set themselves upon their watch tower least they be catched by these baits and so be overcome by him therefore saith the Apostle put on the whole armour of God that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil and again above all taking the shield of faith wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked What need have they then to pray alwaies watching thereunto with all perseverance seeing they have to deal with so potent an adversary which otherwise may overcome them what need have the servants of Christ to watch over their words and consider what they speak seeing evill communication corrupts good manners and seeing likewise that he that bridleth not his tongue his Religion is vain therfore David desired the Lord to set a watch before his mouth and to keep the door of his lips Again what need have the servants of Christ to set a watch over their thoughts also seeing lust when it is conceived it brings forth sin and sin when it is finished brings forth death therfore saith David I hate vain thoughts but I love thy law suffer not thy thoughts then to runne after vanity thou seest there is danger in it but make this good use thou knowing there is danger of this truth let it teach thee to stand upon thy watch as our Lord saith what I say unto you I say unto all men watch Vse 2 It teacheth us to run with patience the race that is set before us because it is not for a time that we must run or part of the way but it must be the whole race to the end till death and the like therefore the Apostle saith let patience have her perfect work we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurence of hope unto the end that ye be not sloathfull but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promise the many reproaches temptations afflictions sufferings persecutions imprisonments yea and death it self which they that will live godly in Christ Jesus are liable to suffer and to passe through here for the testimony of Christ must be endued with patience thou therefore endure hardnesse as a good Souldier of Jesus Christ these things must be indured if we will have the Crown and that to the end too for he that endureth to the end shall be saved if we faint in our minds and cast of our confidence and so cast of Christ because of the crosse we shall not reap let us not be weary of well doing for in due season we shall reap if we faint not if we suffer for Christ with patience and indure the Cross and despise the shame as he did we shall be glorifyed with him but if in our sufferings we are overcome and do deny him he also will deny us therfore let us consider him that suffered such contradictions of sinners least we be wearied and faint in our minds and take as the Apostle of our Lord saith my brethren the Prophets who have spoken in the name of the Lord for an example of suffering affliction and of patience if we do not add patience to our faith we may faint under our burden let this truth therfore teach the Servants of the Lord to suffer afflictions with patience knowing that we shall not reap if we faint it is not sufficient that we be faithful for a year nor years it must be unto death if we will receive the Crown of life we have therefore need of patience that after we have done the will of God we may receive the promise but if we shall say in our hearts the Lord delaies his comming and shall begin to beat the man servants and maydens and to eat and drink and to be drunken the Lord will come in a day we look not for him and at an hour when we are not aware and will cut us a sunder and appoint us our portion with unbelievers therefore let us be patient stablished in our hearts for the comming of the Lord draweth nigh It teaches the servants of the Lord to walk Vse 3 humbly with their God fearing and not high minded they knowing that God resisteth the proud but he gives grace to the humble God will as it were set himself against the proud man whosoever he be surely he scorneth the scorner but he giveth grace to the lowly we must not be high minded but fear for this cause for he spared not the natural branches therefore take heed lest he spare not thee we must learn of Christ to be of a meek and lowly spirit put on humblenesse of mind meekness long suffering be clothed with humility as with a garment therefore Paul that faithful servant of the Lord humbled himself I saith he keep under my body and bring it into subjection lest that by any means when I have preached to others I my self should be a cast away This servant of the Lord knew full well if he did not keep himself low and humble but give way to the flesh and the justs thereof he might miscarry be a cast away wherefore he stirred up the servants of the Lord to cloth themselves with this comly ornament which becomes believing men let nothing be done through strife or vain glory but in lowlinesse of mind let each esteem others better then themselves and this he strives to fasten upon them from the graciousnesse and never to be forgotten example of our dear Lord who though he was equall with God yet he left that glory and humbled himself for our sakes and became obedient to death that we might live and therefore we must be humble else God will not exalt us God will not dwel with a proud person but he will dwell with him that is of a contrite and humble spirit he hath shewed thee oh man what is good and what the Lord requires of thee but to do justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with God It teaches the servants of the Lord to give diligence Vse 4 to make their calling and election sure and to work out their salvation with fear and trembling because otherwise they may become unfruitful and barren and so be taken away from the vine they must therefore give diligence to make their caling and election sure for if they so do they shall never fall they must work the Lord doth require it and work out their salvation too with fear trembling for to such the Lord hath promised his presence thou meetest him that rejoiceth and worketh righteousnesse those that remember thee in thy wayes God doth expect that his people should be a willing people a people fruitful a