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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A02631	A briefe answere of Thomas Harding Doctor of Diuinitie touching certaine vntruthes with which Maister Iohn Iuell charged him in his late sermon at Paules Crosse the VIII of Iuly, anno 1565.	Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572.	1565 (1565)	STC 12759.5; ESTC S4692	7,461	24

vndisposed prayer of the very first infantes and entrers in to the faith in S. Paules time For proufe that certaine Nations had the church Seruice in vulgar and barbarous tonges he alleaged S. Thomas of Aquine and Eckius whom otherwheres he scoffeth at as men of small auctoritie to such streightes for this point is he dryuē And yet that which they saye is farre from prouing his assertion For as concerning that which he brought out of Clemens Alexandrinus Origen S. Chrysostome Hierome and Augustine much lesse perteineth it to this purpose He that being asked the way to Yorke answered a potte full of plummes said as aptly to the question as M. Iuell answered to this direct point out of the forsaid fathers Neither more maketh the decree of Iustiniā for proufe that the seruice was in any other thē the Greke and Latine tong in the East and West church which to that ende he alleaged but only that Bishops and Priestes should pronoūce their wordes at the Masse and other Seruice with an audible and distinct voice Neither is he able to proue that that decree was to be extended to the Latines and to all the people of Christendom to whom in his Sermon he said it to perteine If he would stand to Iustinians decrees he would sone be brought to recant in the chiefe pointes that be in questiō betwixt vs and the Ghospellers as the lerned in the Ciuill lawes do well knowe Item where in the fourth Article of my boke I alleage a testimonie out of Saint Augustine lib. 1. contra 2. epistolas Pelagianorum ad Bonifacium cap. 1. in which that holy and lerned Bishop acknowlegeth the Bishop of Rome his superioritie Englishing his wordes so smoothly as the roughnes of the Latine phrase which in sundry bokes I founde vniforme permitted and there do note in the margent this part of the sentence in Latine so as I founde it in bookes of sundry impressions Quamuis in eo praemineas celsiore fastigio speculae pastoralis Hereat M. Iuell toke occasion to carpe me and to saye his pleasure of me that I had mangled S. Augustines place left out the verbe est placed a nominatiue case without a verbe put communis without a substantiue writtē speculae for specula had made S. Augustine to speake false Latin and had done I can not tell what To all this I answer I alleaged the place faithfully as I founde it And if M. Iuell will trye my truth herein let hym vewe the bokes of sundry Paris printes in folio and of Lions print in octauo and he shall fynde speculae not specula And in tourning the place into English not being so hardy as to alter any worde of the boke wherein I should geue the aduersarye occasion to charge me with the crime of a falsarie for that I thought not to be vpright dealing I englished it so as the wordes semed best to beare Wherein the fault which M. Iuell charged me with is not to be imputed to my falsehed putting the wordes as I foūde them but to the printers ouersight if any were Neither do I make S. Augustine to speake false latine but so as the bookes which I consulted report him to speake But what fault so euer he found with my grammer certaine it is as touching diuinitie that Saint Augustine for all that in the forsaid place to Bonifacius acknowlegeth the Bishop of Rome his superioritie ouer and aboue all other Bishops By this I perceiue whereas M. Iuell to impaire my credite in the opinion of the vnlerned people charged me with incongrue speach in the Latine tong he would if he could also charge me with incōgrue behauioure in Christian life For that is the marke he shooteth at to discredit my person whereas he seeth he is not able to disproue the doctrine that I defend If these be the greatest faultes he could fynde in my boke there is no great cause why his huge booke made against it that now is in printing shold be so much desyred or susteine so great an expectation Which expectation the greater it is the more it shall cause men to contemne it and laugh at it if they shall see so great a hill after so long trauaile brought a bed but of a foolish mouse If greater faultes had ben founde Paules Crosse had rong of them For these foreronning sermons haue set forth the specialst pointes to disproue the doctrine of the Catholike church to discredit me and to gete credite to his owne booke And whereas he vaunted him selffe to haue noted against my boke .97 errours within the compasse of the first .80 leaues of his said booke In case they be of the same coyne that these be of which he hath pyked out for his best shewe in the pulpite as by such coyners they be easely coyned so may they be sone reiected when they come to sight as being light of weight and counterfeites If all were erroneous and faulty that M. Iuell is not ashamed for such to note and reproue then were the whole summe of the Catholike faith and Christian religion erroneous and faulty With the teachinges promptinges of the holy ghoste wherewith the church hath hitherto ben preserued from errour in faith it is small shame my simple doinges by M. Iuelles light report to be named erroneous and faulty I vnderstand by myne informations that he spake of certaine other pointes wherin he sought how to impugne the truth to discredit me as of the secrete pronouncing of the Canon in the West church of th aulters standing in churches of olde time toward the East and such the like matters of smal weight not worthy thanswering But now I intend not by making any answere thereto either to trouble thee or to payne my selfe being otherwise fully occupied This much I thi●●e to be ynough for this time to satis●● thy request to defend the truth and to cleare me of the vntruthes with which I was of M. Iuell vniustly charged Now to ende Reader if thou be setled in the catholike faith there staye thee what so euer thou heare and read to the contrary and thanke God of it If thou be wauering nor yet thoroughly setled but indifferent as it were to the one syde or the other be well assured that the faith of the catholike church of these nyne hundred yeres past be sufficiently disproued and confuted which in dede can not be Christes promise standing and his prayer made to his father for the church performed before thou aduēter theverlasting state of thy soule by thy priuate choise of a newe founde faith in these later perilous times towardes the cōming of Antichrist first preached Antuerpiae 1565. 24. Iulij Tho. Harding 1. Cor. 10 In the first print fol. 14. in the 2. fol. 29. In the first prmt fol. 41. in the secōd print fol. 61. Luc. 24. Act. 27. cod 31. 1. Cor. 1. in the first print fol. 70. a. in the second fol. 95. a De Ecclesiast diuersis capitulis cōstit 123. In the .j. print fol. 80. in the second fol. 107. Iohn 14. Mat. 28. Iohn 14