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A85045 A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1658 (1658) Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619 279,090 362

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can_v judge_v only_o according_a to_o appearance_n in_o his_o visible_a worship_n save_v grace_n be_v a_o invisible_a thing_n then_o what_o necessary_a use_n can_v there_o be_v thereof_o in_o such_o visible_a effect_n as_o may_v be_v do_v without_o it_o and_o such_o as_o in_o their_o present_a consideration_n respect_v only_o such_o creature_n as_o can_v discern_v thing_n invisible_a i_o grant_v that_o save_a conversion_n of_o visible_a church-member_n be_v one_o great_a end_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o promise_n of_o first_o grace_n do_v most_o especial_o belong_v unto_o they_o but_o this_o if_o well_o heed_v rather_o help_v then_o hinder_v my_o design_n for_o it_o evident_o suppose_v the_o visible_a church_n and_o visible_a church_n membership_n to_o have_v its_o be_v before_o his_o conversion_n or_o save_v grace_n of_o executione_fw-la finis_fw-la est_fw-la postorior_fw-la medio_fw-la in_o executione_fw-la which_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n for_o the_o rule_n be_v that_o the_o end_n be_v after_o the_o mean_n in_o execution_n chap._n ix_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n hitherto_o of_o the_o external_a cause_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o the_o argument_n thence_o arise_v let_v we_o now_o consider_v the_o cause_n thereof_o remain_v which_o be_v call_v internal_a viz._n the_o matter_n and_o form_n from_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o general_n i_o argue_v thus_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v consider_v true_o to_o have_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n therefore_o to_o be_v true_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n thereunto_o this_o consequence_n simple_o take_v i_o confess_v be_v not_o so_o warrantable_a because_o the_o matter_n do_v praeexist_a before_o and_o remain_v sometime_o after_o the_o form_n yet_o take_v it_o respective_o to_o the_o form_n afterward_o to_o be_v maintain_v and_o to_o the_o question_n in_o controversy_n which_o be_v chief_o concern_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o especial_o to_o the_o opinion_n of_o my_o present_a opponent_n we_o ready_o affirm_v that_o all_o the_o question_n be_v about_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n that_o if_o this_o be_v feign_v so_o be_v our_o church_n and_o if_o this_o be_v real_a so_o be_v our_o church_n and_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o it_o will_v pass_v without_o interruption_n however_o the_o thing_n that_o i_o be_o dispatch_v do_v not_o engage_v i_o for_o the_o consequence_n though_o the_o other_o cause_n have_v be_v find_v so_o pregnant_a as_o to_o bear_v such_o a_o particular_a improvement_n only_o to_o assign_v and_o maintain_v to_o the_o visible_a church_n all_o its_o cause_n and_o therefore_o its_o existence_n true_o so_o in_o our_o consideration_n without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n which_o i_o presume_v have_v be_v do_v already_o as_o to_o the_o author_n the_o head_n and_o the_o end_n of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o i_o now_o proceed_v to_o add_v the_o matter_n thereof_o affirm_v as_o before_o in_o the_o antecedent_n that_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v be_v consider_v to_o have_v the_o true_a matter_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n habet_fw-la rationem_fw-la partium_fw-la subjecti_fw-la 1._o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n have_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o part_n be_v the_o minister_n and_o the_o people_n the_o pastor_n and_o the_o flock_n ecclesia_fw-la utens_fw-la and_o ecclesia_fw-la docens_fw-la as_o some_o speak_v and_o as_o we_o read_v 1_o cor._n 12._o both_o make_v up_o the_o compositum_fw-la the_o church_n and_o this_o church_n must_v needs_o be_v the_o visible_a church_n for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o organical_a part_n no_o minister_n but_o christ_n himself_o in_o the_o church_n invisible_a now_o may_v we_o consider_v both_o these_o part_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n as_o true_o such_o without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n do_v not_o judas_n true_o teach_v and_o do_v not_o thousand_o true_o profess_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v true_o call_v though_o not_o saving_o choose_v without_o any_o measure_n of_o save_a grace_n but_o this_o will_n more_o fit_o meet_v we_o in_o the_o next_o consideration_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n viz._n as_o have_v the_o reason_n the_o subject_a matter_n next_o we_o inquire_v what_o the_o subject_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a be_v and_o whether_o it_o also_o may_v be_v consider_v without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n 1._o what_o be_v rhen_n the_o subject_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n trelcatius_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v all_o such_o as_o be_v call_v out_o and_o external_o profess_v the_o faith_n which_o i_o think_v none_o can_v choose_v but_o approve_v of_o when_o they_o consider_v that_o faith_n be_v a_o thing_n invisible_a and_o therefore_o not_o any_o way_n fit_v to_o commend_v the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n to_o we_o as_o visible_a and_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o faith_n do_v unite_v man_n to_o the_o church_n yet_o it_o must_v still_o be_v yield_v that_o profession_n thereof_o do_v render_v they_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o visible_a 2._o but_o here_o see_v most_o do_v consent_v that_o professor_n of_o the_o faith_n be_v the_o subject_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o will_v i_o presume_v be_v worth_a our_o enquiry_n what_o be_v mean_v by_o the_o faith_n so_o profess_v certain_o it_o must_v be_v either_o the_o doctrine_n or_o the_o grace_n of_o faith_n and_o which_o of_o these_o be_v proper_o or_o usual_a say_v to_o be_v profess_v 1._o be_v it_o the_o grace_n of_o faith_n which_o man_n profess_v certain_o no_o for_o that_o be_v the_o faith_n by_o which_o and_o not_o the_o faith_n which_o we_o profess_v 2._o how_o incongruous_a a_o speech_n will_v it_o be_v to_o say_v i_o profess_v that_o i_o believe_v while_o it_o be_v good_a and_o sound_a and_o relish_v upon_o the_o mind_n of_o the_o hearer_n to_o say_v i_o profess_v what_o or_o that_o doctrine_n which_o i_o do_v believe_v 3._o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v that_o we_o do_v profess_v the_o grace_n of_o faith_n than_o the_o epithet_n true_a which_o divine_n do_v general_o annex_v to_o faith_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o profession_n and_o whereas_o they_o usual_o speak_v of_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o true_a faith_n they_o shall_v shall_v say_v the_o true_a profession_n of_o the_o faith_n 4._o this_o appear_v in_o its_o contrary_n out_o of_o doubt_n for_o such_o as_o fall_v away_o from_o the_o faith_n be_v not_o say_v to_o deny_v their_o own_o faith_n but_o the_o faith_n or_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n 2._o then_o it_o be_v doctrine_n of_o faith_n which_o we_o profess_v as_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o if_o this_o be_v the_o note_n or_o character_n of_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o can_v in_o the_o most_o strict_a and_o rigid_a sense_n that_o can_v possible_o be_v put_v upon_o it_o only_o require_v two_o thing_n truth_n in_o the_o object_n profess_v and_o truth_n in_o the_o subject_n profess_v i._n e._n that_o he_o profess_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o he_o believe_v what_o he_o profess_v i._n e._n that_o he_o have_v a_o good_a profession_n and_o that_o he_o have_v a_o good_a principle_n answer_v to_o it_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o such_o a_o profession_n do_v require_v to_o make_v it_o not_o dissemble_v but_o true_a and_o real_a and_o thus_o though_o we_o do_v not_o profess_v the_o grace_n of_o faith_n yet_o the_o grace_n of_o faith_n so_o far_o be_v consent_v to_o as_o be_v requisite_a to_o a_o true_a profession_n see_v thereby_o we_o true_o believe_v what_o we_o so_o profess_v 3._o yet_o though_o this_o faith_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v true_a where_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v true_a the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n do_v not_o receive_v its_o denomination_n of_o be_v true_a from_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o grace_n of_o faith_n but_o from_o the_o truth_n of_o its_o object_n or_o doctrine_n believe_v and_o according_o profess_a which_o as_o also_o what_o be_v before_o assert_v viz._n that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o object_n of_o proper_a profession_n or_o the_o faith_n proper_o profess_v appear_v by_o abundant_a example_n in_o scripture_n the_o eunuch_n be_v be_v demand_v do_v thou_o believe_v answer_v not_o my_o faith_n be_v sincere_a but_o i_o believe_v that_o jesus_n 37._o act_n 8._o 37._o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o like_a do_v they_o matth._n 14._o 33._o when_o reprove_v for_o their_o unbeleef_n they_o profess_v say_v of_o a_o truth_n thou_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n john_n also_o bare_a record_n and_o what_o be_v it_o that_o be_v the_o son_n of_o
church_n in_o england_n that_o have_v at_o present_a i_o know_v not_o for_o what_o cause_n lay_v aside_o that_o practice_n be_v therefore_o not_o visible_a true_a church_n though_o i_o high_o approve_v of_o such_o a_o solemn_a declaration_n of_o the_o faith_n if_o possible_a in_o the_o same_o sound_a form_n of_o word_n to_o be_v universal_o make_v yet_o i_o humble_o conceive_v that_o this_o be_v but_o a_o prudential_a humane_a ordinance_n and_o therefore_o not_o so_o necessary_a or_o so_o near_o the_o essence_n or_o so_o essential_a a_o mark_n of_o the_o church_n as_o sound_a doctrine_n and_o pure_a sacrament_n both_o which_o be_v undoubted_o of_o immediate_a divine_a institution_n and_o without_o which_o the_o church_n can_v exist_v which_o thing_n trelcatius_n do_v thus_o most_o accurate_o and_o full_o open_v the_o proper_a and_o essential_a note_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n which_o flow_v immediate_o from_o the_o very_a form_n of_o it_o be_v but_o one_o viz._n the_o 224._o nota_fw-la propria_fw-la &_o essentialis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la visibilis_fw-la proximeque_fw-la fluens_fw-la ex_fw-la forma_fw-la illius_fw-la unica_fw-la est_fw-la veritas_fw-la scilicet_fw-la verbi_fw-la dei_fw-la revelati_fw-la ac_fw-la communicati_fw-la cvi_fw-la veritas_fw-la sacramentorum_fw-la tanquam_fw-la connexum_fw-la inseperabile_fw-la conjuncta_fw-la est_fw-la utriusque_fw-la enim_fw-la veritas_fw-la ita_fw-la proprium_fw-la &_o essentiale_fw-la est_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ecclesiae_fw-la ut_fw-la veritas_fw-la haec_fw-la &_o ecclesia_fw-la convertantur_fw-la instit_fw-la theol._n p._n 224._o truth_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n reveal_v and_o communicate_v to_o which_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v inseparable_o join_v for_o which_o he_o quote_v heb._n 4._o 12._o john_n 10._o 27._o matth._n 28._o 10._o rom._n 4._o 11._o for_o as_o he_o add_v the_o truth_n of_o both_o be_v such_o a_o proper_a and_o essential_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n that_o this_o truth_n of_o both_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o the_o church_n be_v convertible_a but_o of_o this_o i_o shall_v have_v more_o occasion_n in_o the_o next_o chapter_n therefore_o i_o have_v only_o this_o to_o do_v here_o namely_o to_o set_v this_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n before_o you_o to_o consider_v whether_o it_o do_v necessary_o suppose_v save_v grace_n or_o not_o in_o any_o of_o these_o sense_n 1._o may_v not_o personal_a vocal_a profession_n be_v make_v without_o save_a rel._n we_o be_v to_o acknowledge_v a_o church_n of_o christ_n more_o or_o less_o corrupt_a according_a to_o the_o great_a or_o less_o abuse_v of_o god_n word_n and_o worship_n bp._n usher_n p._n 39_o his_o sum_n of_o rel._n grace_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v profess_v as_o well_o as_o believe_v where_o save_v grace_n be_v want_v 2._o may_v not_o ecclesiastical_a profession_n whether_o more_o formal_o by_o a_o solemn_a creed_n read_v and_o silent_o consent_v unto_o by_o the_o people_n be_v also_o do_v and_o consider_v without_o any_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n in_o the_o declarer_fw-la or_o consenter_n 3._o or_o that_o other_o real_a profession_n consist_v in_o attendance_n upon_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n be_v consider_v to_o have_v truth_n for_o its_o object_n both_o in_o word_n and_o sacrament_n and_o yet_o without_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n again_o the_o accidental_a note_n of_o the_o church_n be_v also_o general_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v of_o two_o sort_n inseparable_a or_o proper_a and_o separable_a or_o common_a the_o separable_a and_o proper_a note_n of_o a_o true_a church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o pure_a preach_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o lawful_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v but_o the_o mean_n or_o action_n of_o conveyance_n and_o application_n of_o the_o foresay_a truth_n of_o both_o unto_o the_o church_n and_o so_o near_o unto_o the_o profession_n thereof_o which_o be_v say_v before_o to_o be_v the_o essential_a mark_n of_o the_o church_n that_o i_o have_v already_o reduce_v it_o thither_o and_o need_v not_o repeat_v it_o here_o again_o the_o separable_a note_n of_o the_o church_n whatsoever_o they_o be_v can_v conclude_v any_o thing_n against_o i_o because_o they_o be_v such_o i_o mean_v separable_a and_o therefore_o not_o necessary_a in_o our_o consideration_n of_o the_o be_v of_o the_o church_n however_o that_o we_o leave_v not_o they_o only_o untouched_a they_o be_v usual_o reduce_v unto_o two_o head_n 1._o ecclesiastical_a power_n 2._o and_o holiness_n of_o life_n ecclesiastical_a power_n have_v three_o branch_n the_o power_n of_o ministry_n the_o power_n of_o order_n the_o power_n of_o discipline_n all_o which_o may_v easy_o be_v consider_v without_o the_o least_o respect_n to_o save_a grace_n 1._o judas_n may_v true_o exercise_v his_o ministry_n and_o 2._o outward_a order_n may_v be_v fix_v and_o observe_v and_o 3._o discipline_n may_v be_v erect_v and_o dispense_v without_o any_o necessary_a 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