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A79784 Fiat lux or, a general conduct to a right understanding in the great combustions and broils about religion here in England. Betwixt Papist and Protestant, Presbyterian & independent to the end that moderation and quietnes may at length hapily ensue after so various tumults in the kingdom. / By Mr. JVC. a friend to men of all religions. J. V. C. (John Vincent Canes), d. 1672. 1661 (1661) Wing C429; Thomason E2266_1; ESTC R210152 178,951 376

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