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B20526 The font-guard routed, or, A brief answer to a book written by Thomas Hall superscribed with this title, The font guarded with 20 arguments therein endeavouring to prove the lawfulness of infant baptism wherein his arguments are examined and being weighed in the ballance of the sanctuary are found too light : the most considerble of Mr. Baxters arguments for infant-baptism being produced by Tho. Hall are here answered likewise / written by Tho. Collier ; to which is added A word of reply to Tho. Halls word to Collier and another to John Feriby's [ap]pendix called The pulpit-guard relieved ; with An answer to Richard Sanders's pretended Balm to heal religious wounds, in answer to The pulpit-guard routed : with an humble representation of some few proposals to the honorable committee appointed by the Parliament for propagation of the Gospel. Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691. 1652 (1652) Wing C5285; ESTC R5188 90,512 112

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as_o that_o with_o abraham_n let_v he_o take_v heed_n fear_v and_o tremble_v to_o give_v god_n the_o lie_n god_n one_o day_n will_v appear_v to_o be_v a_o god_n of_o truth_n and_o all_o self-seeking_a and_o gainsay_v man_n will_v be_v sound_a liar_n if_o any_o desire_n to_o see_v further_o into_o this_o truth_n let_v they_o have_v recourse_n unto_o my_o former_a treatise_n font-guard_n rout_v in_o answer_n unto_o the_o same_o argument_n and_o as_o to_o your_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o negative_a that_o this_o merciful_a grant_n be_v not_o revoke_v if_o it_o be_v it_o must_v be_v in_o mercy_n or_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n i_o trace_v you_o not_o in_o it_o i_o suppose_v to_o any_o reasonable_a man_n it_o will_v be_v needless_a for_o if_o it_o be_v clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o it_o be_v repeal_v whether_o in_o mercy_n or_o