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A89563 A defence of infant-baptism: in answer to two treatises, and an appendix to them concerning it; lately published by Mr. Jo. Tombes. Wherein that controversie is fully discussed, the ancient and generally received use of it from the apostles dayes, untill the Anabaptists sprung up in Germany, manifested. The arguments for it from the holy Scriptures maintained, and the objections against it answered. / By Steven Marshall B.D. minister of the Gospell, at Finchingfield in Essex. Marshall, Stephen, 1594?-1655. 1646 (1646) Wing M751; Thomason E332_5; ESTC R200739 211,040 270

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they_o our_o infant_n right_a to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o and_o our_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o of_o circumcision_n as_o to_o the_o use_n of_o a_o initial_a seal_n your_o twelve_o and_o last_o argument_n which_o bring_v up_o your_o rear_n which_o you_o call_v a_o weighty_a reason_n run_v thus_o because_o infant-baptisme_n 12._o seem_v to_o take_v away_o one_o perhaps_o the_o primary_n end_n of_o baptism_n viz._n that_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o sign_n that_o the_o baptize_v show_v himself_o a_o disciple_n and_o confess_v the_o faith_n in_o which_o he_o have_v be_v instruct_v and_o this_o you_o prove_v from_o john_n the_o baptist_n and_o other_o passage_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n which_o put_v baptism_n for_o doctrine_n from_o the_o form_n of_o christ_n institution_n and_o by_o the_o use_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o initiate_a of_o proselyte_n and_o hence_o you_o collect_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o only_o confirm_v a_o benefit_n but_o signify_v also_o a_o profession_n make_v to_o which_o i_o answer_v this_o argument_n how_o weighty_a soever_o it_o be_v be_v but_o a_o branch_n take_v from_o your_o second_o argument_n out_o of_o mat._n 28._o and_o from_o your_o three_o argument_n from_o the_o practice_n of_o john_n and_o christ_n apostle_n and_o be_v but_o a_o crambe_n of_o what_o you_o have_v often_o press_v before_o and_o have_v receive_v its_o full_a answer_n part_n 3_o sect._n 13._o and_o part_v 4._o sect_n 1._o and_o i_o add_v further_o that_o even_o that_o which_o yourself_o here_o set_v down_o give_v a_o full_a answer_n to_o your_o own_o argument_n for_o you_o say_v that_o a_o sacrament_n be_v not_o only_o a_o visible_a sign_n of_o a_o invisible_a grace_n ●r_o appoint_v to_o signify_v only_o a_o divine_a benefit_n but_o it_o likewise_o serve_v to_o signify_v his_o duty_n who_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n it_o signify_v a_o profession_n make_v as_o well_o as_o confirm_v a_o benefit_n for_o do_v it_o not_o thence_o necessary_o follow_v that_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o jew_n make_v by_o their_o circumcision_n a_o profession_n as_o well_o as_o receive_v the_o sign_n of_o a_o benefit_n and_o that_o therefore_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n do_v not_o frustrate_v that_o end_n of_o initiate_a they_o to_o be_v disciple_n or_o professor_n and_o that_o which_o you_o add_v of_o the_o use_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o initiate_a of_o proselyte_n into_o the_o profession_n of_o judaisme_n be_v as_o full_a to_o the_o purpose_n as_o can_v be_v to_o prove_v what_o i_o affirm_v for_o we_o know_v from_o all_o the_o author_n who_o write_v about_o it_o that_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o grow_v man_n be_v initiate_v into_o the_o profession_n of_o judaisme_n by_o the_o rite_n of_o baptism_n in_o the_o last_o place_n you_o shut_v up_o your_o exercitation_n with_o a_o discourse_n about_o the_o devil_n indent_v with_o witch_n to_o renounce_v their_o baptism_n as_o if_o some_o will_v thence_o argue_v that_o 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abraham_n th●_n covenant_n with_o he_o no_o more_o mix_v then_o with_o we_o p._n 97._o proselyte_n be_v his_o seed_n 100_o so_o be_v civil_a justiciaries_n repute_v p._n 101_o 104._o adeodatus_n why_o not_o baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n p._n 48._o alipius_n why_o not_o baptize_v in_o his_o insan●y_n ainsworth_n p._n 171._o albigenses●o_o ●o_z a_o aboptist_n p._n 64._o a_o abaptist_n not_o like_o the_o nonconformist_n p._n 72._o their_o ancient_a error_n new_o spring_v up_o against_o p._n 73._o oppose_v magistracy_n p._n 75._o p●●_n no_o difference_n between_o infant_n of_o christian_n and_o turk_n p._n 86_o 87._o aretius_n vindicate_v p._n 175._o prove_v baptism_n to_o succeed_v circumcision_n by_o the_o an●ionts_n p._n 176._o athanasius_n mention_n infant-baptisme_n p._n 20._o augustin●_n vindicate_v p._n 43._o etc._n etc._n why_o 〈◊〉_d baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n p._n 46_o 47._o b_o ball_n vindicate_v p._n 6._o baltazzar_n lydius_n p._n 64._o baptism_n call_v a_o new_a 〈◊〉_d by_o th●_n scripture_n and_o the_o ancients_n p._n 1●_n anci●ntty_a defer_v p._n 22._o salvation_n may_v be_v obtain_v without_o it_o p._n 52_o 5●_n whether_o it_o may_v be_v repeat_v p._n 67_o 68_o succeed_v circumcision_n p._n 164_o ●●rallelled_v with_o it_o p._n 145._o in_o use_n among_o the_o jew_n and_o apply_v to_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o ●●_o man_n 170._o how_o it_o may_v be_v plead_v p._n 239._o beza_n cite_v against_o his_o own_o judgement_n p._n 147_o 150._o bal●●mon_a 〈◊〉_d p._n 31_o 32._o bayne_n vindicate_v p._n 101_o 102_o berengarius_fw-la no_o anabaptist_n p._n 65._o c_o catechumeni_fw-la p._n 50._o chrysostome_n not_o baptize_v in_o hi●●●fancy_n p._n 27._o vindicate_v p_o 177._o circumcision_n woman_n not_o capable_a of_o it_o p._n 93._o seal_v the_o spiritual_a part_n of_o the_o covenant_n p._n 98._o baptism_n succee_v if_o p._n 164_o ●ar_o a●●●led_v with_o baptism_n p._n 145._o why_o
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