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A02637 A detection of sundrie foule errours, lies, sclaunders, corruptions, and other false dealinges, touching doctrine, and other matters vttered and practized by M.Iewel, in a booke lately by him set foorth entituled, a defence of the apologie. &c. By Thomas Harding doctor of diuinitie. Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1568 (1568) STC 12763; ESTC S112480 542,777 903

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that_o we_o may_v be_v exercise_v with_o tentation_n to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v be_v crown_v for_o our_o victory_n i_o therefore_o say_v s._n paul_n in_o mind_n or_o soul_n obey_v the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o in_o flesh_n i_o obey_v the_o law_n of_o sin_n and_o who_o know_v not_o it_o be_v the_o consent_n of_o the_o mind_n and_o not_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o flesh_n which_o make_v a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o sinner_n concupiscence_n be_v in_o my_o flesh_n only_o and_o not_o in_o my_o mind_n except_o i_o consent_v unto_o it_o and_o so_o take_v it_o into_o my_o mind_n and_o then_o in_o truth_n it_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o this_o be_v the_o very_a discourse_n of_o s._n paul_n for_o when_o he_o have_v say_v in_o mind_n or_o in_o the_o high_a part_n of_o my_o soul_n i_o obey_v the_o law_n of_o god_n he_o conclude_v thereupon_o 8._o rom._n 8._o nihil_fw-la ergo_fw-la damnationis_fw-la est_fw-la his_fw-la qui_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la jesu_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la secundùm_fw-la carnem_fw-la ambulant_a therefore_o no_o part_n of_o damnation_n be_v to_o they_o who_o be_v in_o christ_n jesus_n who_o walk_v not_o according_a to_o the_o flesh_n for_o if_o a_o man_n walk_v according_a to_o the_o flesh_n then_o in_o deed_n his_o concupiscence_n which_o before_o be_v no_o sin_n be_v become_v a_o sin_n thus_o albeit_o our_o flesh_n be_v the_o flesh_n of_o death_n that_o be_v to_o say_v ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la mortal_a as_o s._n chrysostom_n expound_v it_o and_o therefore_o s._n paul_n will_v fain_o be_v deliver_v from_o it_o as_o fear_v lest_o he_o shall_v at_o any_o time_n yield_v unto_o it_o yet_o if_o he_o do_v not_o yield_v unto_o it_o 8._o rom._n 8._o there_o be_v no_o sin_n in_o he_o for_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n which_o be_v the_o grace_n that_o justifi_v we_o in_o baptism_n deliver_v he_o from_o the_o law_n of_o sin_n and_o of_o death_n everlasting_a jewel_n 217._o 84._o lib._n 10._o epist_n 84._o s._n ambrose_n say_v there_o be_v not_o find_v in_o any_o man_n such_o concord_n between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n but_o that_o the_o la_o of_o concupiscence_n which_o be_v plant_v in_o the_o member_n fight_v against_o the_o la_o of_o the_o mind_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n the_o word_n of_o s._n john_n the_o apostle_n be_v take_v 1._o 1._o joan._n 1._o as_o speak_v in_o in_o the_o person_n of_o all_o saint_n if_o we_o say_v we_o have_v no_o sin_n we_o deceive_v ourselves_o and_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o us._n harding_n i_o grant_v that_o in_o this_o continual_a fight_n we_o be_v daily_o so_o conquer_v in_o some_o small_a sin_n or_o other_o that_o we_o never_o remain_v any_o long_a time_n without_o venial_a sin_n but_o that_o