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A52810 A distinct discourse and discovery of the person and period of Antichrist wherein a diligent enquiry is made concerning the time of his rise, reign, and ruine, the answer whereunto is not peremptorily imposed, but modestly proposed / published for publick good by Christopher Ness ... Ness, Christopher, 1621-1705. 1679 (1679) Wing N453; ESTC R3549 114,929 254

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