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A64083 Bibliotheca politica: or An enquiry into the ancient constitution of the English government both in respect to the just extent of regal power, and the rights and liberties of the subject. Wherein all the chief arguments, as well against, as for the late revolution, are impartially represented, and considered, in thirteen dialogues. Collected out of the best authors, as well antient as modern. To which is added an alphabetical index to the whole work.; Bibliotheca politica. Tyrrell, James, 1642-1718. 1694 (1694) Wing T3582; ESTC P6200 1,210,521 1,073

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thou hast the knack to wheadle or persuade him Would not this have been a mighty matter for God Almighty to have appeared to Cain about and an excellent Argument to comfort him and to appease his Wrath against his Brother So that it seems apparent by this Law given by God to Cain and Abel that this Regal and Paternal Authority was not to dye with him nor ●o be equally divided amongst all his Children at his Death or that from thenceforth no man should have a Right by Birth of commanding another for this command to Abel could not be supposed to take place in the Life of Adam for then Adam was Lord over all his Children and so none of them without his permission could rule over the rest and if it were otherwise by Adam's appointment then Adam was the Soveraign still and the Son or Grand-Son so exercising this Power was but his Deputy but after Adam's decease then it became a real Soveraignty in his Eldest Son as having none but God Superior to it F. I hope you will judge more charitably of me than to believe that the sense that I have put upon these words tho' different from yours is out of any love of Anarchy or confusion much less out of any design to pervert or wrest this place of Scripture and if I should be so severe as you are perhaps I might with more reason lay this charge at your Door for in the first place I am not satisfied with your Argument that these words could not be meant personally or concerning Abel only because the same words when spoken of Eve do likewise concern her Posterity and therefore when spoken concerning Abel they must likewise relate to all Younger Brothers in Hereditary Monarchies which consequence I may with very good reason deny for whatsoever subjection may be due by vertue of the like words from Eve and her Posterity to Adam and all other Husbands is to be supposed to have been enjoyned because all Women are descended from Eve and so were represented by her as their first Parent Thus St. Paul supposes all men to be in a state of Sin and Death as represented by Adam their Ancestor by whose disobedience all have sinned But no man will affirm that all the Elder Brothers or Monarchs in the World were represented by Cain and all younger Brothers by Abel no man at this day being as appears in Scripture descended from either of them and I cannot but take notice that the better to strengthen your Notion you again foist in out of the margin of our English Bible His desire shall be subject to thee whereas in the Hebrew it is no more than His or its desire shall be to thee And that the words Rule over are to be interpreted according to the subject and do not always mean a ruling by force or command appears by the same Hebrew words made use of in the first of Genesis concerning the two great Lights that God set in the Firmament to give Light upon the Earth to rule over the Day and over the Night which cannot signifie a ruling by force or command but only by a natural influence or preheminence of the Sun and Moon above the Stars or Planets And tho' you are pleased to ridicule this explanation of mine yet I think I may with as much reason treat yours with the like contempt for since your self grant that this Power of Cain over Abel was not to commence till after the Death of Adam and that this Murder of Abel was committed above a hundred years after Adams Creation appears by the time of the Birth of Seth who was born sometime after Abel's Death would not this thing have been a mighty comfort to Cain when he was in his dogged humor if God had bid him chear up for the time should come that if he behaved himself well about eight hundred years hence when his Father Adam should die he should then Lord it over his Brother and be revenged of him for the affront he had received in having his Sacrifice preferred before his own So that this interpretation of yours is so absurd that I do much rather agree with divers learned commentators as well Jews as Christians who make not only a quite different interpretation but also a different version of these words from the Hebrew Text and if you have the Learned Jesuit Menochius his Notes upon the Bible I pray let me see them Here pray observe what he says upon this place Se● sub te erit appetitus ejus in Hebraeo apud LXX est ad te conversio ejus sensus est Peccatum ejusque appetitus concupiscentia te sollicitabit ad consensum sed ita ut ad te converti a te conseusum petere impetrare debeat id noster interpres ad sensum clare vertit sub te erit appetitus ejus by all which he means no more than that sin should tempt or sollicit him to offend but that he should rule over it that is had a power so to do if he would use it as he ought So likewise Mr. Ainsworth upon this place as you may see in Pool's Criticks puts a li●e sense upon the following words referring the whole sentence to the sin in these words Peccatum ponitur pro poena Peccati juxta Hebraeos ita accipitur Gen. 19.15 Lev. 20. 9. 1 Rep. 7.9 sinsus est prope te punitio peccati ad te desiderum ejus i. e. cupit te poena peccati tui ut solet post peccatum admissum Sed tu si vis dominaberis illi i. e. potes declinare peccatum q. d. poena haec sicut canis est qui ad ostium cubat cupiens ingredi sed in potestate Domini est vel claudere ostium ne ingrediatur vel aperire ut intret Probatur hic sensus 1. Prius membrum de praemio l●quitur reportabis scil praemium ergo posterius loquitur de poena peccatum jam inerat ipsi punitio vero nondum sed ad fores erat So that according to these learned Comentators this place is to be thus turned out of Hebrew If thou dost not well sin lyeth at the door and to thee is its desire but thou mayst or shalt rule over it which seems to me to be a much more Genuin and Rational Interpretation than that of our English or Latin Bibles so that I think I may justly except against the Authority of so doubtful and obscure a place as sufficient to found your Monarchical Power of Elder Brothers in the State of Nature M. Well Sir since you are no better satisfied with this Testimony o●● of Genesis for the Divine Right of Primogeniture I will no longer insist upon it tho' I am not yet convinced but that my Interpretation of this place is truer than yours since I have likewise great Authorities on my side both Antient and Modern besides our common versions to authorize it and