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A38580 Nor truth, nor error, nor day, nor night, but in the evening there shall be light, Zach. 14. 6, 7 being the relation of a publike discourse in Maries Church at Oxford between Mr. Cheynel and Mr. Erbery January 11, 1646. Erbery, William, 1604-1654.; Cheynell, Francis, 1608-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing E3234; ESTC R26470 19,304 31

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God already but first seek the Lord their God and then the way to Zion that is to know God dwelling in us and our selves the habitation of God for this is Zion Another Prophet points at a time that all the Saints shall be left for many dayes without a King and without a Prince and without a Sacrifice and without an Image and without an Ephod and without a Teraphim that is without all publike Worship or Ministery true or false false they will not and true they cannot have not a King or Prince that is not meant of crowned men or Civil Magistrates but as I conceive an Ecclesiastike or Church Ruler Officer or Minister of Christ to go before them nor yet a Sacrifice or Ephod or any Church Ordinance among them no not the least means of knowledge or enquiry left for an Ephod was the least Ordinance under the Law as all Ordinances under the Gospel are legal also by an Ephod men that were not Ministers or Priests might enquire of the Lord in doubtful cases or in a distress as David did and as men do now a dayes seek by fasting and prayer but this also at last shall be taken from the Saints and they shall fit still in submission and silence waiting for the Lord himself to come and reveal himself to them then they shall return and seek the Lord their God and David their King and fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter dayes that is every Saint is yet running about changing their wayes and gadding abroad after one of these three Men Means and Self But the Saints after they are wearied out with their whoredoms shall return to their first husband to God their Maker of whom they first proceeded and came forth and shall see God in their flesh that is David their King This I have been seeking and by seeking I finde in the Scriptures these seven things taught by the Spirit First That Christ is a mystery Col. 4. 3. Secondly That the mystery is Christ in us the hope of glory Col. 1. 27. Thirdly That the riches of the glory of this mystery was kept secret since the world began hid from ages and generations and not made known to the sons of men Rom. 16. 25. Fourthly That this mystery of Christ in us the hope of glory was manifested by revelation to the Apostles and Prophets and primitive Saints by the Spirit Ephes 3. 3 4. Col. 1. 26. Fifthly That what was manifested to them of the mystery of Christ was onely made known in part then to the Saints yea to the Apostles themselves who as they knew but in part and had the knowledge onely as of children so they knew Christ but as the childe Jesus that is they were not come to the knowledge of the Son of God to a perfect man to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ or full age of Christ that is in the mystery to know the Son of God so in them and themselves in the Son as tall and high in stature as he and taken up in the glory of the Son and with him into God himself For that which was manifested visibly to men in the dayes of his flesh that Christ was made of a woman formed and conceived in a Virgin brought forth and born into the world living in Judea dying in Jerusalem rising and ascending into Heaven all this was the manifestation of the mystery of Christ in us the hope of glory which was a truth from the beginning of the world though not manifested to the Saints before Christ came visibly in flesh yet then even before Christ was in the flesh of the Saints he was all in all Christ the same to day yesterday and for ever formed in them brought forth in them living in them and suffering in their flesh as well as in the Saints afterwards Christ in David was the knowledge and faith of David and Davids faith and knowledge was the knowledge of the Son of God and faith of the Son of God who lived also in David as well as in Paul in whom as Christ was speaking so in David also yea as Christ was all in all Christ onely acting in them doing all their works in them so Christ suffered in them as the Lamb really slain from the foundation of the world In Abel the first beleeving Saint Christ was slain and as Paul said of himself I fill up what is behinde of the sufferings of Christ in my flesh So the Saints who were also from the beginning suffered what was before of the afflictions of Christ in their flesh Thus Christ hath been the onely man of sorrows and is still suffering till he shall rise in us This neither Peter nor Paul had attained to to know Christ risen in them Paul knew in part Christ and him crucified and desired to know also more fully the fellowship of his sufferings yet he knew not this so as those Revel. 12 11. Who overcame by the blood of the Lamb who saw their sufferings to be the sufferings onely of the Son But as for Christ risen in him the resurrection of the dead Paul knew not nor was yet perfect knowing not himself and the Son one perfect man Neither did Peter though he suffered for Christ and Christ in him see the day of Christ or Christ as the day star risen in his heart no this was not to be revealed till the last times When Christ should be so conceived and brought forth of a woman the weakest Saint that the weakest Saint should see not onely Christ in them the hope of glory Christ formed in them brought forth in them living in them dying in them but Christ rising in them and revealing himself so gloriously as if he should say I am the root and the off-spring of David the bright and morning Star I am he who was and is and is to come I was all in all in David before I was his root from whom alone sprang up all that he did said or suffered all Davids fruit and glory rose up from Christ in him and returned to the root to Christ in Davids lowest and most dead estate so Christ is the off-spring also and is also that to the Saints to day as he was to David yesterday their substance strength and song But Christ in the Saints will be as the morning Star and rise in more glory yet when the new heaven and new earth shall be and new Jerusalem shall come down out of heaven that is when God shall dwell with men on earth Sixthly This mystery of Christ in us the hope of glory of God manifest in man● flesh which was manifest and in part made known to the Apostles and primitive Saints before hath been hid again from ages and generations ever since the apostacy and spirit of Antichrist came into the world with power and so hath been kept secret since the Antichrstian world begun and not
made known to the sons of men This is plainly foretold in the old Prophets and in that last Prophet of the New Testament who speaking of things to come in the apostacy and dayes of Antichrist saith That he saw a book written within and on the backside sealed with seven seals and no man in heaven or earth nor under the earth was able to open the book nor to look thereon Revel. 5. 1 3. This Book is the mystery of Christ the Word of God and the Book of God in whom both the will and good Will of God are written and by whom all the counsels decrees and deep things of God are declared the mysteries of heaven and all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hid in him yet manifested as I said to the Apostles and Prophets and primitive Saints But the Book was since sealed and that with seven seals that is perfectly sealed and sealed from the seven Churches that is from all the Churches comprised under the number of seven for the seven seals hath reference to those seven Churches now no Church yea no man in heaven or earth or under the earth none in Church-fellowship or not in fellowship no man of never so high apprehension or deep discoveries of spiritual things could open or read the Book or look thereon that 's more not look thereon that is since the apostacy no man hath had scarce an outward knowledge not a knowledge of the mystery of Christ in the Letter much less in the Spirit not seen what was written without much less within This the old Prophets spake by the Spirit also Isai. 8 16 17 Binde up the Testimony seal the Law among my Disciples The Testimony is the Book the Word in the Letter the Law is the Spirit the Law of the Spirit of life in Christ the mystery of Christ both in the Letter and Spirit of life were bound and sealed and that from the Disciples of Christ and therefore as John wept so Isaiah waits for him who hides his face from the house of Jacob and looks for him that is for Christ in whose face the glory of God shines that was hid from the whole Church the house of Jacob So Isaiah 29. 10 11. The vision of all is become as a Book that is sealed that neither learned nor unlearned could read it Neither Prophet nor Ruler nor Seer no Prophet in the Church no Ruling Elder nor the most seeing spiritual Member of the Church could see it to the Mystery nor look thereon yea the v●sion of all nothing was seen not in the Spirit scarce in the Letter the Reason is given Verse 13. Because the fear of me is taught by the precepts of men that is the knowledge and worship of Christ was taught by mens traditions forms framed by old Creeds and Councels new Catechisms and Confessions of Churches as if the Scriptures and Spirit were not sufficient to teach men all the knowledge of God and Christ clear enough therefore God proceeds to do a marvellous work and wonder The wisdome of their wise men shall perish and the understanding of the prudent shall be hid that both Fathers Doctors and Divines could not read the Book nor look thereon yet there is a promise Verse 18. That in that day the ears of the deaf shall hear the words of the Book They that erred in spirit shall come to understanding and they that murmured shall loarn doctrine Verse 24. Seventhly That Book which was sealed before shall be open again and so it is Revel. 10. 1 2. There the little Book is open The mystery of Christ in us is called a little Book in opposition to those huge Tomes and mighty Volumes of Fathers Councels and Commentators Treatises c. which have been all the dayes of Antichrist But in the day of Christ when Christ shall appear in the Saints then shall the Mystery be but a little Book ' ti● no more then God manifest in mans flesh if a man could manifest this Mystery to the World as the Apostles could there would be an end of the Church controversie this day for without controversie great is the mystery of godlinesse God manifest in flesh c. But this is that I would say That the mystery of God shall be more gloriously revealed in the last times after Antichrists destruction and deliverance of the Saints from the apostacy then ever it was by the Apostles themselves at first This I have shewn more fully in our private speakings and shall if called to give a publike account But now it is enough that when the seventh Angel begins to sound the mystery of God shall be finished as he hath declared by his servants the Prophets Revel. 10. 7. What is the mystery of God but the man Christ Jesus how that man is God how God is manifest in mans flesh this hath been declared by the Prophets more fully then in the writings of the Apostles excepting John and he gives but some hints of that high and heavenly Mystery which the Scriptures of the Prophets do more gloriously speak out by whom the Mystery is revealed though not to them Rom. 16. 27. 1 Pet. 1. 13. compared And as the Prophets did minister not to themselves but to the Apostles so the Apostles do minister many things of the mystery of Christ not to themselves but to us in these last times to whom the mystery of God shall be fulfilled which was to them revealed but in part Revel. 10. 7. I date not say that any thing of this Mystery is revealed to me nor yet dare I deny the teachings of God But what I have taught as I would no man to trust me so I wish all men to try me and to hold fast that which is good This is all that I know of this yet if yet I know any thing First That the Son and the Saints make one perfect man and that the fulness of the Godhead dwells in both in the same measure though not in manifestation Secondly That the fulness of the Godhead shall be manifested in the flesh of the Saints as in the flesh of the Son These two things which others see as Heresie and Blasphemy seems to me as Truths both in Scriptures and by that Spirit which speaks in me If any man can convince me by proofs or power of Argument I shall submit and be silent But because I am forcibly commanded and called forth to speak in publike I shall according to the power of God in me do these two things First Prove the Doctrines by plain Scriptures Secondly Then propound my Arguments from thence My proofs for the first are from Christ and his Apostles both to me teach this one thing viz. That the fulness of the Godhead dwells in the Saints as in the Son in the same measure though not in the same manifestation he being in this last sense Anointed above his fellows and God manifest in flesh But seeing we are his Brethren we