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A85550 Truths defender, and errors reprover: or A briefe discoverie of feined Presbyterie dilated and unfolded in 3. distinct chapters. The first, shewing what English Presbyterie is. The second declareth what the failings and errings are, in the practise of those that have constitution by Ordinance of Parliament. The third chapter discovereth the conceited fancies, of such as minde not Parliamentary directions, either for their own constitution or execution and yet denominate themselves Presbyterians. And both parties being found guilty of transgression, are admonished to repentance, according to the rule of the word of the Lord, that commandeth his servants, saying, Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sinne upon him, or as it is in the margent, or thou beare not sinne for him Levit. 19. 17. And also Capt. Norwoods declaration, proved an abnegation of Christ. / By J.G. a servant to, and lover of the truth. Graunt, John, of Bucklersbury. 1651 (1651) Wing G1596; Thomason E633_5; ESTC R206472 16,292 20

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soever the Scriptures speake of or the Saints of God hope for is now compleated and perfecteded in men in which insertion is included many grosse falshoods and absurd contradictions of the truth of God First That a mans happinesse and salvation proceeds from something within man as he is man and not from some one thing without him and so becomes happy by himselfe or by something of himselfe which was borne with him and not by imputation of anothers righteousnesse from without him And Secondly he overthrowes all future hopes whatsoever and affirmes there is no other resurrection glorie or happinesse then what is enjoyed in men in this cursed world in this vild and corruptible body by which it plainly appeares the man is both ignorant and destitute of the lively faith and assured hope of Gods elect for which there needs no greater proofe against him then his owne confession which wild and mad doctrine is further discovered and condemed in the Lamp and cure following Againe the Capt. seemes to vaunt much of his knowledge of heaven and hell and saith that there is no other of neither but what is now in mens bodies a thing as strange as the rest yet that he may be prov'd deluded we must first consider that the terme heaven is variously taken and hath different meanings in the Scripture first in a strict secondly in a more generall sence in a strict sense is sometimes meant the doctrine and beginning of the Kingdome of Heaven sometimes the righteousnesse of the Kingdome sometimes the Children of the Kingdome sometimes the glorious Kingdome it self altogether considered sometimes the contenent and place of this Kingdomes perfection And secondly in a more generall sense the profession of the doctrine and place of the Kingdomes regeneration now as I formerly told your Brother Royle in Cure of deadly doctrine pag. 4. that the truth of tearmes is the preservation of proprieties which here now I shall more cleerely open to you And Sir I pray take notice for you to speake indefinitely as you have done of a tearme which admits of such different exceptions in so doing you have spoken altogether unprofitable because in such cases the definition shews the meaning not the tearme so that in the rule of reason no man can expect a full answer to a doubtfull assertion yet that you may be answered we will presume your intention that by the tearm Heaven you meane the place and everlasting glorious salvation of the Saints now the Scripture shews the place in which they shall injoy eternall salvation to be without them I go to prepare a place for you saith their Lord again I wil prepare a place for my people they shal be removed no more now this holie place promised is the new heavens and new earth in which dwelleth righteousnesse in which place there shall be no evill nor sinne nor curse nor death nor sorrowing nor crying even such a place of holinesse and perfection as Adam injoyed in his innocencie which place was not contained within his body but his body within it he personally had dominion over all the whole cr●●tion and not all the whole glorious creation contained within his person but as it was without the holy man in his innocencie so it shal be with Christ their King the whole house of Jacob in their excellencie in the world to come whereof the Prophets speake in which all things that is all created things shall be subjected and subdued under Christs and his Saints feet Heb. 2. and then also shall the Kingdomes of this world become the Kingdoms of our Lord and his Christs where he and his Saints shall reigne personally for ever and ever and then all Kings and Kings Subjects shall feare and fall downe to him for all Nations shall serve and worship him Consider likewise how the Saints desired expectation is to be cloathed upon with their house that is from Heaven which is such an extraordinary glorie as Moses Elias was cloathed with in the holy Mount which were visible and transparent beauties as wel as internal And in the morning of the Saints awaking at the general resurrection they shal shine saith the Prophet as the brightnes of the Firmament and as the Stars for ever and ever and so saith our Saviour and Emanuel As truly God so truly man whom you despise and scorne thus understood and acknowledged neverthelesse at the end of this world when the time of separation shall be betweene the Children of the Kingdome and the Children of the wicked one Then shall the righteous shine forth as the Sun in the Kingdome of their Father and this is added Who hath eares let him heare which hearing eare your Declaration shews you have not as certainely as any thing you want in the world besides and when these things come to passe as truly speedily they shall then shall you be forced to confesse a Hell without you also as well as a Hell within you and condemned with shame and cloathed with confusion as with a mantle when the undying worme is spread under you which shall also cover you then shall you see him and his whom you now blaspheme and persecute to be personally glorified but your selfe justly and everlastingly tormented and condemned except you repent in the meane while I leave it to all people to whom these presents shall come to judge if you be not a lying deluded Prophet And as I feare not to undertake the Captaine of my Lords enemies although he be an uncircumcised Goliah and a leader of the hoast of the huge Camp of the Philistims the Lords adversaries so I feare not likewise to reprove all such Ministers of all denominations that pretend to feed and lead the Lambs Army and to be Shepheards of Gods holy flock and yet doe let such Wolves as these to worrie and destroy the harmelesse sheep and so smite the Shepheard as to kill and crucifie him the second time and this done not in a corner but in the sheepfold before all their faces and yet not one of you have had a word to speake for your pretended Master nor his faithful Servants I could tell you where in London and Westminster both publiquely and privately by men of your owne coate as you call them as well as by others at Yorke and Canterbury and all over the Nation of which the cure behinde will tell you more how these corrupt abhominable and rotten doctrines have been plainly advanced and put to sale to the killing of the head of Christs Church and the poysoning of the Members thereof and yet not one of you all as I know of have appeared in the cause of truth against them now how will you acquit your selves from that wofull sentence and lamentable reward of unprofitable Servants without repentance I cannot tell you but I admonish you all to looke about you for the houre of account and reckoning is very nere comming of which saith he that is your
TRUTHS DEFENDER AND ERRORS REPROVER OR A Briefe Discoverie of feined Presbyterie dilated and unfolded in 3. distinct Chapters The first shewing what English Presbyterie is The second declareth what the failings and errings are in the practise of those that have constitution by Ordinance of Parliament The Third Chapter discovereth the conceited fancies of such as minde not Parliamentary directions either for their constitution or execution and yet denominate themselves Presbyterians And both Parties being found guilty of transgression are admonished to repentance according to the rule of the word of the Lord that commandeth his servants saying Thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy Neighbour and not suffer sinne upon him or as it is in the Margent Or thou beare not sinne for him Levit. 19. 17. And also Capt. Norwoods Declaration proved an Abnegation of Christ By J. G. a servant to and lover of the TRVTH LONDON Printed by Matthew Simmons next doore to the golden Lyon in Aldersgatestreet 1651. TO THE Right Honourable JOHN BRADSHAW LORD PRESIDENT of the COUNSEL of the STATE of ENGLAND MEeting of late my Lord with some strange undertakers in point of Church-Governement who thought they had done well and yet missed at a great distance the marks both divin and humane not onely in that which concerned their impowerment but also thier direction for government and finding my Brethren injuriously dealt withall and over-mastered by more then ordinarie insultation I could do no lesse there then but defend them by my advice and counsell which did so seasonably relieve and refresh them as that they earnestly desired that I would send them the like in writing for their better satisfaction and vesoluton in future times whose Christian importunity hath so prevailed with my weake abilitie as that I have made a briefe yet a true discoverie of fained Presbyterie And notwithstanding your Lordship hath formerly taken notice of the contents of the two first Chapters yet that experience I have had of your ready eare for hearing and soundnesse of judgement in knowing makes me bold to acquaint your honour with the whole discoverie and therein especially with the contents of the third Chapter in which are such strang and new things as I presume your Lordship never read the like and I humbly beseech that my boldnesse may finde pardon of your goodnesse amongst your great Offerings let this mite of mine receive acceptance from him whom the Lord hath made his servant and yours to serve him the great God of Heaven and earth and your Lordship in a higher imployment My Lord no sooner had I thought thus to conclude this short Epistle but presently was given me a grosse delusion of Captain Norwoods asserted under his owne hand And wondring that such an impudent falshood should put on a face of confidence and boldnesse I thought it my duty to the Common-wealth in a few words to breake his bands of ●ruths restraint asunder as Sampson arose and cast away the Strumpets intanglements And because I have declared before against these approbrious injuries offered to the misterie of godlinesse touching our Lords personall death and resurrection I thought good to add them and this to the aforesaid discoverie commending all to your Honours meditations Who am alwayes ready to serve you John Graunt A Discoverie of fained PRESBITERIE FIrst Presbyterie is that regulate way of a religious Christian profession that is declared by the Parliament And Secondly feigned Presbyterie is something denominated like it being taken up at the pleasure and will of diverse Christians carrying on thereby an arbitrary way of bondage and slaverie towards their weake Brethren who give themselves up to the will and pleasure of such as erre not knowing the Scriptures notwithstanding their pretence of Church-government The first Chapter shewing what English Presbyterie is FOr the first sort of Presbyterie it is such as Authority instituted in anno 1645. 1646. and 1647. by the power and vertue of divers Ordinances of Parliament And first we must take notice of such rules and directions as doe enable each Parish to make choice of Elders and that is when a County or Country is made a Province by Authority of Parliament that Province divided by them into Classis in which Classis respectively there are nominated Ministers and others to be Judges and Triers who are authorized to trie and examine the elected Elders which the Parishes in the said Classis shall present unto them under the hands of the Minister and Church-Wardens and within 14 dayes after Election to heare the exceptions against them made and exhibited by any Parishioner or others in matters of ignorance or scandall committed within 12. moneths before according to the descriptions of both enumerated in Ordinance of Parliament October 20. 1645. and as the Triers shall judge either to approve or disapprove the said Elective Elders and when the convenient number more or lesse chosen by the Parishioners be approved of then and not before are they in capacity to act that is to meet once a weeke or oftner and the Congregationall Eldership consisting of Minister and Elders or the major part of them are impowred to summon before them the Parishioners or any part of them to examination in maters of ignorance and scandal according to the particular heads of each enumerated in the Ordinance before mentioned and they are impowered further to take an Oath of such witnesses as shall accuse the examined and as the Eldership shall judge to admit and suspend them from the Lords-Supper and further it is ordained that of the Congregationall Elderships are made and constituted all other degrees of Presbyterian government for by one Minister at the least and two ruling Elders sent from each Congregation is made and constituted the Classicall Elderships who are to meet once a moneth and by two Ministers and foure Elders sent from each Classis is made and constituted the Provincial-Assembly who are ordered to meet twise a yeare and so by the like sent from the Provinciall is the Nationall Assembly made and constituted who are alwayes to attend the High Court of Parliament And it is also provided that for the reliefe and righting of such as shall thinke themselves wronged in the Congregationall Elderships that such shall have liberty to appeale from them to the Classis from the Classis to the Provinciall from the Provinciall to the Nationall and from them to the Parliament if right may not be had otherwise And further each Classis being constituted they are also impowered for examination and ordination of Ministers The second Chapter shews the errours and failings of this first which is the best sort of Englsh Presbitery FOr although this way and order was first ordained for the good and bettering of Christian Congregrations yet wofull experience hath proved it to be very prejudicious and injurious through the ignorance of some and malice of others against the streight way of the Lord and the Children thereof for whereas