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A01073 The groundes of the longitude with an admonition to all those that are incredulous and beleeue not the trueth of the same. VVritten by Simon Forman, student in Astronomie and Phisique. 1591. Forman, Simon, 1552-1611. 1591 (1591) STC 11185; ESTC S113117 8,641 16

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as the Sunne and a lesse to rule the night as the Moone and the Starres 3 God placed the Starres in the firmament of Heauen to giue light vpon the Earth 4 The first mouer doth giue a turne once euery 24. howers or there abouts about the Earth whereby the Sunne the Moone and Starres are carried from the East vnto the West and so about 5 The Earth is quiet and vnmoueable and is accounted the Center of the worlde 6 Doe not the Earth and the Waters make one rounde bodie 7 There are two poles the Arcticke and Antarcticke the one in the North the other in the South and the Line Equinoctiall in the middest 8 There is a Latitude which is taken from the Equinoctiall to the Pooles either to the South or the North 9 There is no Latitude without his Longitude 10 The Latitude is opposite to the Longitude in respect that the Latitude is taken from the South to the North. And the Longitude from the West vnto the East 11 The Sunne doth rise and fall in his course and neuer continue at one staie 12 It is Omne oppositum 13 There is fire in a flint-stone 14 Diuers places haue diuers Latitudes in respect of the South and North. And diuers Longitudes in respect of East and Weast 15 A man may see farther on a plaine ground or on a hill then he can among trees or in a bottome and as farre by Sea as by Lande Too Groundes more I haue left out because as they are most true so they giue too plain euidence and too much vnderstanding to a subtill witte Now if any can disproue absolutely these grounds aforesayd viz. That God in the beginning did not create all thinges as is aforesaid and set the Sunne the Moone and Starres to distinguish times and seasons or that the Sunne the Moone and Starres doe not giue light vnto the earth or that the first moouer doeth not turne or can gaine say the stabilitie of the earth the scituation of the Pole starres or Equinoctiall line or can denie the Latitude or say there is a Latitude without Longitude or that can say they are not opposite or that it is not Omne oppositum c. or that there is no fire in aflint-stone or that all places haue one Latitude and Longitude c. or that a man can see farther generally in a bottome then on a high hill c. Then in disprouing absolutely these generally then hee may generally disproue our Arte and finding of our Longitude and so manie of these posisions as hee can absolutely disproue so many of the pillers of our Arte doth fayle for these positions which I haue here set downe eyther they are the opinions of the Auncient writers or confirmed by holy Scripture or are such as daylie experience doth confirme or reason wholy allowe But if these may not be disproued generally and absolutely without caueling then it is but a folly for any to stande incontention or deniall hereof for whosoeuer shall denie it by wordes the experience and deed shal shewe it to be true Cease therefore all such as carpe against the trueth and you also that wonder at the power and giftes of God and you also that say you haue so many waies and you also that will write Bookes against the trueth hereof cease also you that say it was found by some sinister meanes cease also you that stumble at a strawe and fall ouer a house and you also that be like vnto S. Thomas in vnbeleeuing and know you that whatsoeuer is not possible with man is possible with God and God will reueale the knowledge of hidden things at times appointed to those whom it please him to the great admiration of the worlde and there is nothing so secreete among men but it shall be made manifest Tell me was the knowledge of all Artes and Sciences found out in one day was Roome builte in a day or stately Troy ouerthrowne in an houre hath not God measured the heauens and wayed the earth in the ballance hath hee not sounded the deapth of the sea and numbred the haires of our heads gaue he not boldnes and eloquence of speach to Moses Aron gaue he not wisdom to Salomon faithfulnesse to Abraham to his twelue Apostles knowledge of tongues and powre to cast out Diuels and gaue hee not to his Prophetes Martirs Virgins and Confessers constancie is not he the onely well and fountaine of all goodnesse and grace from whom all knowledge springs Did not one finde out the Latitude another the height of the Sunne another the Astralabie another the Compasse another the Crosse staffe another the Ballestille all was not found at one time nor by one man Did not another finde the Arte of making of Glasses another the making of Guns and gunne powder another the Arte of Printing others the making of globes Celestial Terrestrial innumerable other things very needfull and necessary which are now vsed I demaund also whether all Countries Prouinces and Ilandes scituated in the seas were found all at one time or by one man was not the Canarie Ilands found by a French man called Betanchor in the yeare of our Lord God 1405. viz. Lancelotus and the Iland Fortis ventura And after this did not Farnandus Peraria inuade the Ilandes Ferrea and Gomera And did not Petrus de Vera citizen of the noble cittie of Xeuicium and Michael of Moxica subdue the Ilands Grancanaria and Palma And Alphonsus Lugo that which is now called Teneryfen of latter daies And further was not Hispaniola and Cuba discouered by Colonus diuers other Ilands in the yeare of Christ 1493. and 1494. And did not Iohn Dias Solis sayle first into the riuer of Plate in the daies of Ferdinandus king of Spaine c. What need I speake of China of Giapan of Persia of Ginnea and of diuers other places late founde out by running as it were at aduenture If these countries and Ilandes were found as is said by great aduenture there is no doubt now but many notable trauailers hauing the helpe of so good and profitable a rule as the Longitude will attempt to sayle and discouer yet diuers Ilands and Countries vnknowen to their perpetuall memorie and euerlasting prayse Now therfore you that are men among men and would be accounted wise on the one side and that desire to be instructed in greater knowledge on the other side consider with your selues what God is what his power conteyneth what his giftes are what his will is Consider also what time bringeth to light what Arte and cunning skill is and to what industrie and trauaile attaineth Lay all maliciousnes aparte and enuie nor infame none nor condemne them that trauaile in any Arte or Science for his countries wealth pursue them not with euill wordes that seeke to doo you good and to encrease both your wealth and knowledge Be not vnthankefull to God for his giftes for
recorded in his booke Intituled by the name of Pymander Was not Salomon endued by God with such excellent wisedome as none had greater before his time Did not God shewe his wonders by his seruant Moyses in the land of Egipt and did not Moyses and the children of Israell passe through the red Seat and was not Pharao and his hostes drowned Did not Iosua commande the Sunne to stand still on Gybeon the Moone on Aalon vntill he was auenged on the enimies of the Lord and of Israel Did he not giue power vnto Elias to shut the heauens so that it rained not in 3. yeeres and sixe moneths And then he prayed againe and it did rayne I speake now of the power of the Lord of his wonders done in the old world which also ceaseth not to shew wonders vnto this day and to giue power to some to beare his name before the rest Maruaile not therefore at me that I should finde out the knowledge hereof neither think it a thing impossible to be done for it is not I but the grace of God which is in me as Paul saith for all good giftes and the true knowledge of things commeth from God according as it is written And in the latter daies I will powre out my spirite vpon all flesh and your yoong men shall dreame dreames and your old men shall see visions and your children shall tell of things to come And therefore all though the Lorde did hide the knowledge here of from all the learned men that euer haue written vnto this day as from Ptolomeus Pithagoras Plato Beed Aristotle Alkindus Lergis Aomar Albenoyt Zael Guido bonatus Haly Iohn de sacrobosco Alfonsus Amoaz Dorotheus Frier Bacon Petrus de Medina Purbaicus Regiomontanus Alfraganus Strabo Stadius Leouitius and an infinite number moe of great and learned clearkes which haue written aswell of Astronomie as Cosmographie it was not for want of wisedome or learning in them or great diligence to search the secreete misterie of things neither was it for that there should be borne into the world a greater clarke then they to finde it But it was decreed so by his diuine powre before that when the time thereof was come it should be found by him whom he would to shewe his glory and powre euen by the simple and least made account of to confound the wisdome of the wise and mightie Euen by him that neuer thought of such a thing nor neuer had indeuoured himselfe there abouts nor applied any parte of his studie to that intent had not Maister Robert Parker marchant of London putting the same into his head and intreated me to take some paines therein at whose earnest request I bestowed some part of my studie endeuour therein And by the grace and helpe of God haue brought it to that passe which any man that is desirous of the knowledge thereof may learne the trueth thereof at the Authors handes if he repayre vnto him or else if he or they repaire to Master Robart Parkes in pudding lane Therefore returning to our former discourse againe to speake of the vnbeleeuing sorte and those that stand so stifly vpon impossibilities saying it is impossible to finde any true and direct way for the knowledge thereof because so many learned men aforesaid could neuer finde it and some againe make it impossible because themselues haue trauailed therin with much studie counting themselues great and cunning Clarkes hauing found and prooued twentie waies at the least and could not happen on the right way as themselues haue reported And thereupon some haue beene about to write a booke against it and of the impossibilitie and vncertaintie thereof some againe are of another mind and they say if he haue found out the true way thereof hee neuer founde it by God but by some sinister meanes by the Diuell as who should saie that the cunning of the diuell is greater then the knowledge and power of God or that God was not able to giue the knowledge thereof except the diuell will or that he be made pryuie thereof or that the diuell can do any thing without the permission or sufferance or commaundement of God If you doubt thereof goe aske of Iob and of the booke of the Kings how the diuell came before God c. and how God gaue him leaue and powre and how God made the diuell and instrument to do his will But these and such like are not euill speakers but impairers of the powre of God dishonorers of his persone presumptuous in their owne conceipt enuiors of others hinderers of the benefite of the common-wealth negligent to do good and as hard of beleefe as S. Thomas was Therefore I say vnto them as Christ said vnto S. Thomas Come hether all you vnbeleeuers all you that seeke and neuer find all you cunning Sophisters all you studentes of Astronomie Cosmographie all you also that account things impossible and all you that will write Bookes against it and all you that haue so many waies and none true and you also that seeke by subtiltie of Arguments to enter into the secreet knowledge thereof that thereby you might take away another mans glorie that seeke I say to haue the gaine and prayse of another mans trauaile Come hether also all you that stand vpon the iudgement of the learned and all you also that are desirous to learne and to augment your knowledge Come hether also you Masters and Sailers that entend any long voyages here shall you finde one of the chiefe pillers of your Arte here shall you find a Pilate to direct you in a dangerous passage being driuen with a storme be it neuer so long here shall you finde a Load starre that shall shewe you where you shall goe forth or backe East or West Yea you shall finde such a practise and knowledge that shall proue or disproue all your Maps Cardes Globes and Bookes that here before haue beene written thereof and further it resolueth and discouereth all the doubts here before had in Nauigation And the trueth and certaintie hereof is so sure as the Latitude and as easie to be done to euery wise man And for because you shall not thinke that I make a great preambulation or circumstanticall discourse therof to perswade men without some ground or reason I will here set downe certaine groundes and pillers thereof the which if any can absolutely disproue then may he well say that it is a fallible rule and not true the which I knowe none can disproue except he will denie both reason and learning And the groundes are these viz. 1 God in the beginning created all thinges in number waight and measure in order place and forme and appointed man to haue dominion ouer his creatures and to search and seeke out the secreet and hidden vertues in them conteyned giuen vnto them by by God their creator seuerally by measure c. 2 God created two lights a greater light to rule the daie