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into_o it_o be_v ready_a to_o relinquish_v and_o oppose_v it_o if_o it_o either_o appear_v erroneous_a or_o suspicious_a whereas_o whosoever_o shall_v with_o a_o true_a and_o unpretended_a conscience_n persuade_v himself_o or_o but_o suspect_n that_o the_o church_n require_v a_o profession_n of_o false_a doctrine_n or_o conformity_n to_o unlawful_a practice_n and_o of_o this_o each_o particular_a person_n must_v be_v the_o judge_n in_o sâ—ch_a a_o case_n he_o not_o only_o may_v but_o be_v oblige_v to_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n and_o by_o such_o separation_n not_o he_o but_o the_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n now_o sir_n be_v not_o this_o prinoiple_a a_o preservative_n of_o sovereign_a virtue_n against_o all_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n for_o schism_n or_o heresy_n prot._n but_o what_o will_v you_o have_v a_o man_n so_o persuade_v or_o so_o suspect_v error_n and_o misdemeanour_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n to_o do_v cath._n i_o ready_o enough_o grant_v that_o in_o such_o a_o case_n the_o man_n must_v neither_o profess_v nor_o do_v any_o thing_n against_o his_o present_a conscience_n and_o consequent_o i_o do_v not_o say_v he_o must_v separate_v but_o if_o the_o church_n for_o his_o obstinate_a disobedience_n shall_v cast_v he_o out_o he_o must_v be_v patient_a but_o the_o truth_n be_v his_o case_n be_v deplorable_a for_o every_o way_n he_o be_v expose_v to_o extreme_a danger_n if_o he_o conform_v against_o conscience_n he_o sin_v mortal_o by_o damnable_a hypocrisy_n if_o he_o refuse_v to_o conform_v that_o be_v to_o submit_v his_o private_a persuasion_n or_o suspicion_n to_o the_o teach_v of_o the_o church_n i_o mean_v the_o catholic_a church_n his_o sin_n be_v yet_o more_o heinous_a be_v a_o rebellious_a disobedience_n to_o the_o high_a and_o most_o divine_o establish_v authority_n upon_o earth_n from_o the_o guilt_n of_o which_o disobedience_n no_o dictate_v of_o consoience_n how_o unpretend_v soever_o can_v acquit_v he_o otherwise_o none_o but_o false_a hypocrite_n and_o subtle_a pretender_n of_o conscience_n can_v be_v guilty_a either_o of_o schism_n or_o heresy_n yea_o the_o proud_a menace_n the_o more_o self-conceited_a of_o their_o own_o judgement_n and_o more_o addict_v to_o entertain_v suspicion_n and_o contempt_n of_o their_o superior_n the_o more_o innocent_a they_o shall_v be_v so_o that_o a_o full_a persuasion_n or_o it_o seem_v but_o suspicion_n that_o any_o heretical_a doctrine_n be_v orthodox_n will_v excuse_v all_o heretic_n even_o the_o most_o blasphemous_a from_o all_o guilt_n and_o danger_n and_o moreover_o at_o the_o end_n of_o the_o account_n the_o governor_n and_o lawful_a teacher_n appoint_v by_o god_n in_o his_o church_n in_o case_n the_o excommunicate_a such_o orthodox_n heretic_n must_v alone_o be_v esteem_v heretic_n and_o schismatic_n only_o for_o teach_v truth_n and_o do_v their_o duty_n §._o 114._o indeed_o if_o he_o who_o call_v schism_n a_o