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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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the_o heart_n of_o they_o which_o remain_v upon_o earth_n be_v open_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d saint_n be_v not_o affirm_v by_o these_o father_n s._n hierome_n against_o vigilantius_n speak_v in_o heat_n of_o disputation_n but_o he_o affirm_v in_o another_o place_n noscere_fw-la that_o because_o jesus_n know_v the_o thought_n of_o some_o of_o the_o scribe_n he_o do_v thereby_o show_v himself_o to_o be_v god_n jesuit_fw-la three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o 4._o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o answer_n first_o the_o place_n of_o s._n john_n apocal._n 8.4_o prove_v not_o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a 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