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or_o piety_n truth_n we_o do_v not_o urge_v 〈◊〉_d certain_a truth_n the_o case_n itself_o of_o angel_n keeper_n be_v not_o so_o resolve_v but_o only_o mention_v as_o of_o congruity_n because_o it_o be_v most_o probable_a there_o be_v such_o keeper_n if_o thus_o myself_o resolve_v do_v infer_v holy_a angel_n keeper_n pray_v for_o i_o i_o see_v no_o reason_n to_o be_v tax_v with_o point_n of_o popery_n or_o superstition_n much_o less_o of_o absurdity_n or_o impiety_n but_o be_v this_o as_o may_v be_v salus_fw-la reipublicae_fw-la non_fw-la vertitur_fw-la in_o istis_fw-la a_o man_n may_v go_v to_o heaven_n that_o use_v it_o and_o he_o that_o deny_v it_o may_v go_v thither_o also_o as_o likewise_o they_o may_v hoc_fw-la non_fw-la obstante_fw-la go_v either_o of_o they_o the_o contrary_a way_n to_o the_o contrary_a place_n through_o breach_n or_o observation_n of_o thing_n of_o a_o high_a nature_n and_o great_a allay_v tender_v unto_o we_o under_o that_o strict_a form_n believe_v this_o and_o live_v but_o to_o return_v to_o our_o persuader_n for_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n too_o but_o whatsoever_o we_o grant_v or_o deny_v they_o be_v eloquent_a orator_n for_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n too_o they_o use_v to_o tell_v we_o many_o long_a and_o plausible_a discourse_n of_o the_o happy_a and_o bless_a estate_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n of_o the_o fruition_n and_o enjoy_n of_o his_o presence_n in_o glory_n with_o who_o be_v the_o fullness_n of_o joy_n at_o who_o right_a hand_n be_v pleasure_n for_o evermore_o they_o discourse_n of_o their_o charity_n and_o good_a affection_n unto_o we_o their_o brethren_n militant_a in_o the_o church_n upon_o earth_n the_o great_a desire_n they_o have_v to_o do_v we_o good_a their_o readiness_n to_o help_v and_o to_o assist_v we_o at_o need_n the_o grace_n and_o favour_n they_o be_v in_o with_o god_n and_o the_o possibility_n they_o have_v to_o be_v hear_v in_o their_o desire_n and_o to_o have_v whatsoever_o they_o ask_v grant_v 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of_o the_o righteous_a this_o be_v suppose_v needs_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o hope_v of_o great_a help_n and_o assistance_n from_o they_o by_o so_o free_a access_n and_o representation_n of_o our_o prayer_n unto_o god_n as_o these_o man_n talk_v of_o from_o those_o who_o can_v not_o even_o in_o their_o own_o opinion_n intimate_v their_o own_o suit_n unto_o god_n in_o presence_n representative_o be_v not_o admit_v thither_o where_o he_o have_v his_o residence_n not_o come_v to_o look_v into_o the_o glass_n of_o the_o deity_n for_o they_o be_v it_o be_v teach_v in_o limbo_n a_o verge_n of_o hell_n far_o enough_o remote_a from_o god_n and_o heaven_n thus_o it_o be_v determine_v by_o he_o that_o can_v tell_v haec_fw-la quaestio_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la est_fw-la omnium_fw-la aliarum_fw-la namely_o concern_v the_o honour_n due_a and_o do_v unto_o they_o canonization_n of_o they_o assistance_n from_o and_o by_o they_o and_o sanctorum_fw-la animae_fw-la deum_fw-la videant_fw-la &_o veer_fw-la beatae_fw-la sâ—nt_fw-la ante_fw-la diem_fw-la iudiâ—ij_fw-la so_o that_o irenaeus_n the_o author_n of_o the_o question_n under_o justine_n martyr_n name_n tertullian_n origen_n hillary_n chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o must_v be_v spunge_v out_o from_o the_o list_n and_o catalogue_n of_o assertor_n of_o this_o point_n the_o saint_n depart_v may_v profitable_o be_v invoke_v far_o it_o may_v be_v note_v in_o this_o general_a view_n that_o in_o many_o passage_n of_o the_o ancient_n rhetorical_a and_o last_o in_o many_o thinâ—â—_n they_o be_v mâ—â—rly_o rhetorical_a pretend_v for_o this_o particular_a those_o rethoricall_a figure_n prosopopeye_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o compellation_n of_o holy_a saint_n and_o martyr_n to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o panegyricall_a oration_n of_o the_o greek_a father_n especial_o be_v direct_v not_o at_o large_a to_o any_o saint_n or_o bless_a soul_n as_o to_o party_n unknown_a they_o special_o speak_v to_o saint_n suppose_v to_o 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to_o purpose_n neither_o for_o particular_a nor_o for_o time_n controversor_n thou_o 〈◊〉_d be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d purpose_n falsify_v by_o the_o controversor_n faulty_a and_o falsify_v also_o voluntary_o the_o controversor_n for_o read_v the_o text_n thus_o sunt_fw-la aequales_fw-la angelis_n be_v equal_a at_o present_a unto_o the_o angel_n whereas_o the_o gospel_n have_v it_o as_o our_o saviour_n speak_v and_o mean_v it_o de_fw-fr futuro_fw-la of_o the_o time_n to_o come_v erunt_fw-la aequales_fw-la angelis_n be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n shall_v be_v equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n that_o he_o mean_v to_o corrupt_v it_o appear_v by_o his_o gloss_n there_o aâ—_n appear_v bâ—_n his_o gloss_n there_o a_o notorious_a lie_n imprimis_fw-la nihil_fw-la deest_fw-la eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la angeli_fw-la habent_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la munus_fw-la they_o want_v not_o now_o any_o thing_n at_o all_o wherewith_o angel_n be_v endow_v as_o much_o as_o appertain_v to_o this_o employment_n a_o assertion_n most_o false_a in_o itself_o and_o direct_o cross_v by_o a_o contrary_a assertion_n of_o himself_o and_o his_o complice_n in_o this_o very_a point_n of_o invocation_n for_o in_o point_n of_o information_n whereby_o saint_n depart_v come_v to_o understand_v our_o needs_o and_o necessity_n our_o case_n and_o state_n when_o we_o implore_v their_o help_n and_o assistance_n unto_o god_n this_o be_v one_o that_o the_o angel_n agentes_fw-la in_o rebus_fw-la in_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n with_o man_n as_o ordinary_a agent_n or_o employ_v occasional_o do_v inform_v and_o give_v knowledge_n thereof_o unto_o saint_n contradict_v which_o himself_n elsewhere_o contradict_v which_o supposal_n of_o such_o information_n from_o they_o be_v it_o true_a or_o false_a vain_a and_o imaginary_a or_o real_a and_o indeed_o i_o dispute_v i_o question_v i_o care_v not_o do_v of_o necessity_n enforce_v a_o disproportion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o saint_n unto_o the_o angel_n against_o the_o resolution_n of_o our_o great_a master_n here_o be_v as_o his_o fashion_n be_v who_o custom_n be_v to_o serve_v himself_o for_o the_o present_a purpose_n to_o put_v by_o the_o thing_n that_o press_v he_o he_o care_v not_o how_o and_o so_o that_o he_o may_v serve_v his_o turn_n then_o and_o rid_v his_o finger_n of_o present_a trouble_n respect_v not_o what_o he_o have_v say_v elsewhere_o or_o what_o will_v ensue_v upon_o his_o assertion_n then_o and_o there_o in_o common_a sense_n and_o reason_n he_o that_o inform_v another_o ignorance_n and_o give_v he_o to_o understand_v what_o he_o understand_v not_o be_v superior_a at_o least_o in_o point_n of_o information_n and_o so_o information_n grant_v the_o angel_n superior_a in_o point_n of_o information_n aliquid_fw-la eye_n deest_fw-la eorum_fw-la quae_fw-la angeli_fw-la habent_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la munus_fw-la precise_o the_o flat_a contradictory_n to_o his_o position_n saint_n and_o angel_n be_v not_o equal_a no_o not_o in_o this_o and_o therefore_o also_o the_o question_n be_v ill_o state_v by_o he_o and_o he_o touch_v invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n as_o if_o there_o be_v no_o term_n of_o inequality_n or_o disproportion_n betwixt_o they_o at_o all_o himself_o we_o may_v easy_o 〈◊〉_d why_o it_o 〈…〉_o wiâ—h_o he_o both_o to_o contradict_v himself_o i_o wonder_v not_o at_o this_o contradiction_n for_o mendaces_fw-la be_v seldom_o memores_fw-la forger_n and_o faulser_n can_v carry_v thing_n so_o clean_o but_o at_o sometime_o or_o other_o they_o will_v discover_v and_o betray_v themselves_o for_o as_o in_o truth_n one_o part_n be_v comportable_a and_o compliable_a with_o another_o so_o falsehood_n ever_o do_v dash_n against_o itself_o hew_v hoof_n against_o hoof_n they_o agree_v not_o long_o with_o and_o among_o themselves_o that_o conspire_v together_o against_o god_n and_o truth_n but_o let_v they_o be_v lump_v or_o consort_v as_o they_o will_v have_v it_o as_o they_o please_v let_v holy_a saint_n and_o angel_n even_o now_o at_o present_a before_o the_o resurrection_n go_v hand_n in_o hand_n together_o passibus_fw-la aequis_fw-la in_o all_o point_n or_o if_o yet_o they_o will_v let_v saint_n in_o some_o sort_n be_v superior_a unto_o angel_n to_o further_o the_o case_n of_o invocation_n that_o be_v both_o be_v apt_a and_o dispose_v and_o fit_v to_o pity_n and_o compassionate_a to_o help_v and_o relieve_v our_o necessity_n and_o needs_o let_v saint_n have_v this_o prerogative_n to_o commiserate_v soon_o and_o assist_v ready_a and_o help_v effectualler_n as_o they_o plead_v for_o they_o because_o they_o be_v more_o near_o unto_o and_o conjoin_v with_o we_o then_o angel_n be_v as_o be_v member_n together_o with_o we_o of_o christ_n flesh_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o bone_n of_o our_o bone_n as_o have_v feel_v themselves_o be_v yet_o in_o the_o flesh_n those_o misery_n of_o mankind_n whereof_o angel_n have_v never_o experimental_a knowledge_n or_o trial_n let_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o thereupon_o in_o these_o regard_n they_o be_v more_o likely_a to_o put_v to_o for_o our_o assistance_n extremum_fw-la potentiae_fw-la the_o utmost_a extent_n of_o their_o best_a endeavour_n according_a to_o that_o well_o know_v and_o approve_a saying_n in_o the_o poet_n non_fw-la ignara_fw-la mali_fw-la miseris_fw-la succurrere_fw-la disco_fw-la let_v it_o be_v add_v that_o what_o they_o entreat_v for_o they_o shall_v obtain_v it_o at_o god_n hand_n god_n will_v not_o deny_v they_o who_o he_o hear_v always_o when_o they_o pray_v unto_o he_o yet_o be_v all_o these_o but_o fair_a pretext_n and_o pretence_n and_o circumduction_n nothing_o material_a to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n question_n and_o to_o â—oave_v from_o the_o question_n only_o bring_v in_o to_o make_v a_o show_n to_o dazzle_v the_o gazer_n with_o imagination_n and_o so_o to_o lead_v man_n off_o from_o that_o which_o indeed_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v particular_a as_o appear_v in_o this_o particular_a to_o pitch_v upon_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o question_v as_o will_v appear_v in_o particular_a more_o precise_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o saint_n may_v be_v call_v unto_o to_o call_v upon_o god_n for_o we_o in_o distress_n the_o reason_n be_v it_o be_v doubt_v whether_o they_o can_v hear_v when_o we_o call_v the_o main_a to_o be_v prove_v will_v be_v this_o they_o can_v and_o that_o ordinary_o at_o any_o time_n in_o any_o place_n any_o man_n or_o man_n hic_fw-la rhodus_n hic_fw-la saltus_fw-la these_o be_v to_o be_v make_v good_a and_o then_o we_o yield_v prove_v they_o and_o i_o will_v say_v as_o well_o as_o any_o romanist_n sancta_fw-la maria_fw-la ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o but_o because_o they_o do_v wander_v who_o we_o must_v follow_v invocation_n therefore_o since_o we_o can_v 〈◊〉_d follow_v they_o the_o right_a way_n into_o the_o question_n let_v we_o huâ—t_v they_o out_o of_o their_o by_o path_n and_o first_o for_o the_o practice_n of_o pray_v to_o saint_n in_o jacobs_n practice_n they_o can_v neiâ—hâ—r_o find_v invocation_n have_v after_o they_o in_o their_o by-path_n whatsoever_o and_o first_o unto_o pray_v to_o angel_n in_o practice_n and_o upon_o record_n as_o be_v suppose_v in_o holy_a writ_n for_o practice_n long_o ago_o before_o the_o law_n jacob_n lie_v on_o his_o deathbed_n pray_v to_o a_o angel_n gen._n 48.16_o angelus_n qui_fw-la eruit_fw-la i_o de_fw-la cunctis_fw-la malis_fw-la benedicat_fw-la pveris_fw-la istis_fw-la hic_fw-la apertè_fw-la s._n jacob_n angelum_fw-la invocavit_fw-la say_v bellarmine_n in_o the_o point_n the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o out_o of_o all_o evil_a and_o adversity_n bless_v these_o child_n here_o it_o be_v apparent_a that_o holy_a jacob_n invocate_v the_o angel_n not_o so_o apparent_a i_o wis_v sir_n as_o be_v suppose_v either_o for_o invocate_a in_o general_a or_o for_o invocate_a a_o angel_n by_o holy_a jacob_n not_o for_o invocation_n we_o find_v no_o ora_fw-la pro_fw-la istis_fw-la here_o by_o way_n of_o address_n or_o direct_v supplication_n not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o much_o as_o any_o term_n of_o compellation_n thou_o angel_n which_o have_v keep_v i_o preserve_v they_o or_o assist_v they_o with_o thy_o help_n furtherance_n and_o prayer_n which_o shall_v have_v be_v if_o it_o be_v to_o purpose_n for_o say_v the_o master_n of_o controversy_n himself_o non_fw-la debere_fw-la peti_fw-la à _fw-la sanctis_fw-la nisi_fw-la ut_fw-la orent_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la all_o we_o can_v or_o must_v ask_v of_o saint_n be_v that_o they_o will_v pray_v for_o us._n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v profess_v and_o protest_v by_o the_o persuader_n themselves_o that_o they_o never_o go_v beyond_o degree_n of_o compellation_n thus_o sancta_fw-la maria_fw-la ora_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la and_o herein_o they_o say_v right_a they_o shall_v not_o go_v far_o most_o what_o they_o do_v not_o at_o least_o their_o meaning_n be_v no_o more_o but_o so_o second_o this_o passage_n of_o jacob_n be_v not_o to_o the_o angel_n it_o be_v concern_v he_o
and_o three_o peter_n paul_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o glorious_a company_n his_o fellow_n martyr_n it_o be_v idle_a to_o allege_v such_o rhetorical_a passage_n and_o panegyricall_a strain_n to_o prove_v point_n of_o difference_n and_o controversy_n dogmatical_o again_o it_o be_v to_o purpose_n and_o must_v be_v remember_v that_o gregory_n speak_v it_o on_o the_o nine_o of_o november_n day_n and_o the_o solemnity_n of_o the_o time_n in_o which_o some_o great_a honour_n perhaps_o may_v accrue_v to_o the_o saint_n of_o the_o day_n the_o day_n of_o his_o excess_n and_o consummation_n under_o maximianus_n and_o then_o keep_v holiday_n in_o that_o church_n it_o may_v be_v probable_a and_o that_o be_v all_o for_o certain_a it_o be_v not_o there_o be_v no_o constat_fw-la of_o it_o in_o infallible_a truth_n only_o conjectural_a in_o opinion_n that_o upon_o that_o day_n upon_o that_o occasion_n god_n who_o as_o he_o be_v glorious_a in_o his_o saint_n so_o be_v he_o also_o glorify_v by_o his_o saint_n do_v discover_v unto_o that_o his_o glorious_a saint_n and_o servant_n who_o memory_n for_o his_o noble_a act_n be_v famous_a in_o the_o church_n that_o day_n for_o the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o himself_o in_o he_o either_o by_o angelical_a intimation_n or_o divine_a extraordinary_a dispensation_n for_o his_o more_o accidental_o at_o least_o accrue_v glorification_n some_o passage_n in_o that_o place_n where_o he_o be_v interest_v that_o so_o he_o may_v honour_v he_o the_o more_o in_o grant_v his_o desire_n and_o petition_n for_o the_o good_a of_o they_o that_o in_o he_o and_o by_o he_o do_v honour_n and_o glorify_v god_n if_o the_o church_n have_v such_o a_o opinion_n of_o old_a as_o peradventure_o they_o have_v it_o be_v but_o opinion_n and_o probable_a pious_a meditation_n to_o excite_v other_o to_o go_v after_o those_o worthy_n example_n by_o recommendation_n of_o the_o so_o excellent_a reward_n it_o be_v no_o point_n of_o faith_n nor_o preach_v to_o believe_v not_o believe_v to_o practise_v general_o but_o leave_v at_o man_n liberty_n to_o believe_v or_o not_o so_o let_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n believe_v it_o if_o they_o will_v so_o they_o press_v not_o all_o other_o to_o believe_v it_o with_o they_o nor_o condemn_v they_o of_o heresy_n that_o do_v not_o practise_v it_o nor_o will_v believe_v it_o three_o it_o be_v a_o general_a case_n heaven_n be_v 〈…〉_o touch_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o the_o likely_a to_o be_v know_v of_o saint_n in_o heaven_n and_o touch_v notorious_o the_o whole_a church_n that_o which_o nyssen_n intend_v in_o that_o place_n no_o private_a occasion_n or_o peculiar_a interest_n of_o some_o man_n it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o state_n of_o his_o country_n then_o in_o hazard_n the_o scythian_n the_o goth_n and_o such_o other_o enemy_n be_v then_o up_o in_o arm_n public_a action_n universal_a occasion_n long_o in_o suspense_n much_o depend_v a_o good_a while_n before_o notorious_a unto_o heaven_n and_o earth_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o that_o intercession_n there_o intend_v which_o immane_a quantum_fw-la diâ—â—ert_fw-la from_o such_o case_n as_o common_o come_v under_o their_o invocation_n theodorus_n in_o nyssens_n opinion_n can_v not_o be_v be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o these_o passage_n and_o upon_o such_o persuasion_n have_v address_v unto_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d although_o thou_o be_v pass_v the_o course_n of_o this_o life_n yet_o thou_o well_o enough_o worte_a the_o suffering_n and_o necessity_n of_o man_n what_o they_o be_v beg_v peace_n therefore_o of_o god_n for_o we_o that_o so_o this_o festival_n solemnity_n of_o thou_o may_v not_o cease_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o state_n of_o mankind_n in_o general_a not_o particular_a and_o that_o also_o by_o remembrance_n of_o thing_n past_a not_o information_n of_o thing_n present_a or_o if_o so_o yet_o of_o general_a report_n and_o common_a fame_n not_o of_o special_a notice_n or_o intimation_n and_o last_o what_o certainty_n he_o have_v hereof_o of_o theodorus_n presence_n assistance_n 1017._o and_o all_o the_o while_n speak_v by_o one_o full_a of_o uncertainty_n pag._n 1017._o and_o possibility_n to_o relieve_v appear_v by_o his_o own_o word_n somewhat_o before_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wheresoever_o thou_o now_o won_a come_v hither_o in_o person_n and_o be_v a_o spectator_n of_o this_o solemnity_n for_o we_o call_v unto_o thou_o again_o that_o have_v call_v we_o to_o participate_v thereof_o and_o whether_o thou_o converse_a in_o heaven_n with_o god_n on_o high_a or_o won_a in_o some_o heavenly_a habitation_n above_o or_o copartner_n and_o companion_n with_o the_o quire_n of_o angel_n be_v assistant_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o they_o and_o thy_o lord_n or_o else_o with_o power_n and_o principality_n as_o a_o most_o faithful_a servant_n do_v honour_n and_o worship_v he_o for_o a_o little_a while_n omit_v those_o employment_n there_o and_o come_v in_o friendly_a though_o in_o invisible_a sort_n unto_o they_o who_o do_v honour_n unto_o thou_o these_o word_n do_v not_o run_v in_o such_o a_o strain_n as_o sound_v for_o resolution_n and_o dogmatic_a proof_n scarce_o for_o opinion_n or_o conceit_n and_o yet_o if_o it_o do_v as_o it_o do_v not_o we_o answer_v it_o be_v a_o extraordinary_a case_n and_o therefore_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o purpose_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d much_o often_o and_o frequent_a come_v not_o home_n to_o the_o point_n invocation_n warrant_v must_v insist_v upon_o perpetual_a deputation_n thereto_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d always_o and_o every_o where_o must_v come_v in_o it_o must_v be_v a_o rule_n of_o general_a practice_n or_o we_o can_v subscribe_v it_o let_v it_o be_v do_v and_o teach_v dogmatical_o ephraim_n the_o syrian_a harp_v upon_o the_o same_o no_o other_o string_n rhetoric_n their_o next_o testimony_n 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o same_o string_n of_o rhetoric_n precamur_fw-la beatissimi_fw-la qui_fw-la pro_fw-la domino_fw-la saluatore_fw-la proque_fw-la illius_fw-la charitate_fw-la sponte_fw-la &_o impigrè_fw-la tormenta_fw-mi sensistis_fw-la atque_fw-la ideò_fw-la familiarius_fw-la domino_fw-la coniuncti_fw-la estis_fw-la ut_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la miseris_fw-la etc._n etc._n dominum_fw-la interpâ—llare_fw-la dignemini_fw-la ut_fw-la superueniat_fw-la in_o nos_fw-la gratia_fw-la christi_fw-la nay_o he_o strike_v not_o so_o full_a a_o stroke_n for_o it_o be_v but_o a_o apostrophe_n in_o general_a which_o infer_v no_o conclusion_n at_o all_o not_o to_o any_o one_o peculiar_a select_a saint_n saint_n but_o touch_v a_o more_o general_a assembly_n of_o saint_n but_o to_o the_o entire_a and_o whole_a assembly_n of_o those_o happy_a one_o in_o general_n and_o that_o not_o in_o a_o peculiar_a case_n of_o need_n or_o private_a interest_n of_o any_o one_o man_n but_o in_o a_o universal_a case_n of_o mediation_n in_o which_o kind_n there_o be_v no_o question_n betwixt_o the_o party_n contendant_fw-la this_o day_n mediation_n in_o a_o universal_a case_n of_o mediation_n for_o it_o be_v in_o confessâ—_n that_o all_o the_o saint_n depart_v each_o several_a saint_n depart_v and_o with_o god_n do_v and_o do_v incessant_o invoke_v the_o high_a majesty_n of_o heaven_n pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la miseris_fw-la peccatoribus_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr negligentiae_fw-la squalore_fw-la sordentibus_fw-la which_o brother-like_a affection_n and_o saintlike_a performance_n be_v a_o especial_a part_n of_o the_o communion_n of_o saint_n cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n stroke_n cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n strike_v not_o so_o strong_a a_o stroke_n if_o yet_o he_o be_v the_o author_n of_o those_o mystagogical_a catechism_n under_o his_o name_n which_o in_o some_o ancient_a copy_n be_v ascribe_v to_o john_n of_o jerusalem_n who_o or_o what_o he_o be_v i_o know_v not_o be_v recite_v thus_o by_o the_o controversor_n in_o more_o place_n than_o one_o cum_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la offerimus_fw-la facimus_fw-la mentionem_fw-la etiam_fw-la eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la ante_fw-la nos_fw-la obdormierunt_fw-la primum_fw-la patriarcharum_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la martyrum_fw-la ut_fw-la deus_fw-la orationibus_fw-la illorum_fw-la suscipiat_fw-la preces_fw-la nostras_fw-la in_o which_o say_v he_o come_v not_o so_o far_o as_o ephraim_n he_o remember_v the_o practice_n in_o the_o church_n in_o those_o day_n a_o most_o ancient_a and_o very_a laudable_a custom_n tend_v to_o piety_n and_o example_n of_o good_a life_n to_o commemorate_v the_o memory_n of_o the_o dead_a at_o the_o altar_n custom_n speak_v only_o of_o the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o dead_a after_o a_o ancient_a and_o laudable_a custom_n patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n martyr_n and_o confessor_n and_o withal_o to_o beseech_v the_o majesty_n of_o heaven_n that_o he_o will_v gracious_o accept_v regard_n and_o grant_v their_o prayer_n for_o his_o church_n upon_o earth_n and_o merciful_o give_v ear_n unto_o their_o own_o supplication_n then_o pour_v out_o unto_o