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forth_o and_o yet_o this_o accurate_a and_o pretend_a cleanly_a way_n of_o these_o brethren_n though_o it_o tend_v to_o exclude_v many_o who_o may_v be_v be_v true_o regenerate_v yet_o it_o may_v let_v in_o any_o unregenerat_a if_o they_o can_v but_o play_v the_o hypocrite_n handsome_o and_o have_v some_o book-learned-knowledge_n section_n 32_o argument_n 7._o shall_v be_v take_v from_o these_o description_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n hold_v it_o forth_o to_o we_o frequent_o as_o a_o mix_a society_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a under_o the_o similitude_n of_o a_o barn_n floor_n wherein_o be_v a_o heap_n of_o wheat_n and_o chaff_n mat._n 12._o of_o a_o corn_n field_n wherein_o be_v grow_v together_o tare_n and_o wheat_n chap._n 13._o 24._o of_o a_o draw-net_n gather_v in_o good_a fish_n and_o bad_a ibid._n vers_fw-la 47._o etc._n etc._n and_o of_o a_o great_a house_n wherein_o be_v vessel_n of_o gold_n and_o silver_n and_o vessel_n of_o wood_n and_o earth_n 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will_v not_o leave_v open_a a_o way_n for_o such_o a_o escape_n we_o present_v it_o thus_o in_o form_n if_o the_o lord_n himself_o describe_v the_o outward_a constitution_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n whereof_o it_o consist_v not_o only_o hold_v it_o forth_o as_o a_o mix_a society_n of_o some_o true_o good_a and_o gracious_a and_o some_o bad_a unconvert_v and_o graceless_a one_o but_o also_o declare_v that_o his_o will_n be_v that_o his_o servant_n shall_v not_o cast_v out_o of_o it_o all_o such_o as_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v bad_a and_o unconvert_v but_o that_o they_o permit_v even_o such_o in_o the_o outward_a visible_a church_n leave_v to_o himself_o to_o make_v the_o full_a separation_n of_o the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o then_o it_o can_v be_v that_o by_o his_o appointment_n and_o institution_n it_o shall_v be_v the_o necessary_a qualification_n of_o visible_a church-member_n in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la that_o they_o be_v all_o true_a convert_n and_o gracious_a one_o at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v discern_v and_o judge_v this_o proposition_n if_o the_o consequence_n and_o connexion_n thereof_o hold_v good_a leave_v no_o door_n open_a for_o the_o former_a escape_n as_o be_v evident_a and_o i_o conceive_v that_o the_o connexion_n or_o consequence_n of_o it_o be_v undeniable_a because_o upon_o the_o supposition_n of_o the_o opposite_a of_o the_o consequent_a follow_v clear_o the_o opposite_a of_o the_o antecedent_n that_o be_v to_o say_v if_o it_o be_v christ_n institution_n and_o will_n that_o true_a grace_n at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o man_n can_v discern_v and_o judge_v shall_v be_v the_o necessary_a qualification_n in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la of_o all_o church-member_n it_o shall_v clear_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v his_o will_n and_o
lean_v that_o way_n 1._o not_o only_o speak_v he_o to_o his_o hair_n â—s_v in_o the_o present_a â—…seâ—_n if_o thy_o brother_n offend_v thou_o go_v and_o tell_v he_o tell_v the_o church_n but_o also_o be_v speak_v of_o a_o case_n that_o may_v have_v in_o that_o present_a time_n fall_v out_o and_o which_o fall_v out_o it_o be_v necessary_a for_o they_o to_o know_v and_o be_v inform_v what_o course_n they_o shall_v follow_v fâ—…edresse_n of_o it_o 3._o hudson_n vindic_n of_o the_o essence_n and_o unity_n of_o &c_n &c_n c._n 1._o p._n 3._o 2._o it_o incline_v not_o a_o little_a to_o understand_v a_o church_n that_o be_v in_o present_a be_v among_o the_o jew_n because_o he_o apply_v his_o present_a speech_n to_o the_o capacity_n of_o the_o jew_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n who_o may_v not_o have_v communion_n with_o heathen_n and_o will_v not_o with_o publican_n but_o christian_n may_v eat_v and_o drink_v with_o both_o i_o say_v not_o these_o be_v demonstrative_a ground_n yet_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o lean_v that_o way_n but_o see_v we_o what_o the_o author_n bring_v from_o the_o text_n that_o the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n church_n and_o it_o only_o for_o so_o he_o must_v be_v understand_v be_v mean_v section_n 7_o his_o first_o ground_n be_v this_o he_o christ_n speak_v in_o the_o verse_n forego_v of_o little_a one_o which_o he_o explain_v to_o be_v true_a believer_n and_o convert_a one_o v._o 6._o &_o v._o 3._o &_o this_o be_v make_v the_o qualification_n of_o the_o visible_a member_n of_o the_o new_a church_n in_o the_o chapter_n forego_v mat._n 16._o 17._o ans_fw-fr 1._o that_o true_a save_a faith_n and_o conversion_n be_v the_o qualification_n viz._n in_o the_o external_a ecclesiastic_a court_n of_o visible_a church_n member_n be_v a_o dream_n and_o that_o it_o be_v teach_v matth._n 16_o 17._o be_v another_o dream_n and_o that_o another_o kind_n of_o qualification_n as_o to_o substance_n be_v requisite_a in_o visible_a 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