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A44019	Tracts of Mr. Thomas Hobbs of Malmsbury containing I. Behemoth, the history of the causes of the civil wars of England, from 1640 to 1660, printed from the author's own copy never printed (but with a thousand faults) before, II. An answer to Arch-bishop Bramhall's book called the catching of the Leviathan, never before printed, III. An historical narration of heresie and the punishment thereof, corrected by the true copy, IV. Philosophical problems dedicated to the King in 1662, but never printed before.; Selections. 1682	Hobbes, Thomas, 1588-1679.	1682 (1682)	Wing H2265; ESTC R19913	258,262	615

force to make him consider better of his own Doctrine and sometimes brought him to the acknowledgment of the Truth But other punishment they could inflict none that being a right appropriated to the Civil Power So that all the punishment the Church could inflict was only Ignominy and that among the Faithful consisting in this that his company was by all the Godly avoided and he himself branded with the name of Heretick in opposition to the whole Church that condemned his Doctrine So that Catholick and Heretick were terms relative and here it was that Heretick became to be a Name and a name of Disgrace both together The first and most troublesome Heresies in the Primitive Church were about the Trinity For according to the usual curiosity of Natural Philosophers they could not abstain from disputing the very first Principles of Christianity into which they were baptized In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost Some there were that made them allegorical Others would make one Creator of Good and another of Evil which was in effect to set up two Gods one contrary to another supposing that causation of evil could not be attributed to God without Impiety From which Doctrine they are not far distant that now make the first cause of sinful actions to be every man as to his own sin Others there were that would have God to be a body with Parts organical as Face Hands Fore-parts and Back-parts Others that Christ had no real body but was a meer Phantasm For Phantasms were taken then and have been ever since by unlearned and superstitious men for things real and subsistent Others denyed the Divinity of Christ. Others that Christ being God and Man was two Persons Others confest he was one Person and withal that he had but one Nature And a great many other Heresies arose from the too much adherence to the Philosophy of those times whereof some were supprest for a time by St. John's publishing his Gospel and some by their own unreasonableness vanished and some lasted till the time of Constantine the Great and after When Constantine the Great made so by the assistance and valour of the Christian Souldiers had attained to be the only Roman Emperor he also himself became a Christian and caused the Temples of the Heathen Gods to be demolished and authorized Christian Religion only to be publick But towards the latter end of his time there arose a Dispute in the City of Alexandria between Alexander the Bishop and Arius a Presbyter of the same City wherein Arius maintained first That Christ was inferiour to his Father and afterwards That he was no God alleadging the words of Christ My Father is greater than I. The Bishop on the contrary alleadging the words of St. John And the Word was God and the words of St. Thomas My Lord and my God This Controversie presently amongst the Inhabitants and Souldiers of Alexandria became a Quarrel and was the cause of much Bloodshed in and about the City and was likely then to spread further as afterwards it did This so far concerned the Emperors Civil Government that he thought it necessary to call a General Council of all the Bishops and other eminent Divines throughout the Roman Empire to meet at the City of Nice When they were assembled they presented the Emperor with Libels of Accusation one against another When he had received these Libels into his hands he made an Oration to the Fathers assembled exhorting them to agree and to fall in hand with the settlement of the Articles of Faith for which cause he had assembled them saying Whatsoever they should decree therein he would cause to be observed This may perhaps seem a greater indifferency than would in these dayes be approved of But so it is in the History and the Articles of Faith necessary to Salvation were not thought then to be so many as afterwards they were defined to be by the Church of Rome When Constantine had ended his Oration he caused the aforesaid Libels to be cast into the fire as became a wise King and a charitable Christian. This done the Fathers fell in hand with their business and following the method of a former Creed now commonly called The Apostles Creed made a Confession of Faith viz. I believe in one God the Father Almighty maker of Heaven and Earth and of all things visible and invisible in which is condemned the Polytheism of the Gentiles And in one Lord Iesus Christ the only begotten Son of God against the many sons of the many Gods of the Heathen Begotten of his Father before all worlds God of God against the Arians Uery God of very God against the Valentinians and against the Heresie of Apelles and others who made Christ a meer Phantasm Light of Light This was put in for explication and used before to that purpose by Tertullian Begotten not made being of one Substance with the Father In this again they condemn the Doctrine of Arius for this word Of one substance in Latine Consubstantialis but in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is Of one Essence was put as a Touchstone to discern an Arian from a Catholick And much ado there was about it Constantine himself at the passing of this Creed took notice of it for a hard word but yet approved of it saying That in a divine Mystery it was fit to use divina arcana Verba that is divine words and hidden from humane understanding calling that word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 divine not because it was in the divine Scripture for it is not there but because it was to him Arcanum that is not sufficiently understood And in this again appeared the indifferency of the Emperor and that he had for his end in the calling of the Synod not so much the Truth as the Vniformity of the Doctrine and peace of his People that depended on it The cause of the obscurity of this word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 proceeded chiefly from the difference between the Greek and Roman Dialect in the Philosophy of the Peripateticks The first Principle of Religion in all Nations is That God is that is to say that God really is Something and not a meer fancy but that which is really something is considerable alone by it self as being somewhere In which sence a man is a thing real for I can consider him to be without considering any other thing to be besides him And for the same reason the Earth the Air the Stars Heaven and their Parts are all of them things real And because whatsoever is real here or there or in any place has Dimensions that is to say Magnitude and that which hath Magnitude whether it be visible or invisible finite or infinite is called by all the Learned a Body It followeth that all real things in that they are somewhere are Corporeal On the contrary Essence Deity Humanity and such-like names signifie nothing that can be considered without first considering

had in their sleep or in an extasie which in every true Prophet were Supernatural but in false Prophets were either natural or feigned and more likely to be false than true To say God hath spoken to him in a Dream is no more than to say he dreamed that God spake to him c. To say he hath seen a Vision or heard a Voice is to say That he hath dreamed between sleeping and waking So St. Peter's Holy Ghost is come to be their own imaginations which might be either feigned or mistaken or true As if the Holy Ghost did enter only at their eyes and at their ears not into their understandings nor into their minds Or as if the Holy Ghost did not seal unto their hearts the truth and assurance of their Prophesies Whether a new light be infused into their understandings or new graces be inspired into their heart they are wrought or caused or created immediately by the Holy Ghost And so are his imaginations if they be Supernatural T. H. For the places of my Leviathan he cites they are all as they stand both true and clearly proved the setting of them down by Fragments is no Refutation nor offers he any Argument against them His consequences are not deduced I never said that the Holy Ghost was an Imagination or a Dream or a Vision but that the Holy Ghost spake most often in the Scripture by Dreams and Visions supernatural The next words of his As if the Holy Ghost did enter only at their eyes and at their ears not into their understandings nor into their minds I let pass because I cannot understand them His last words Whether new light c. I understand and approve J. D. But he must needs fall into these absurdities who maketh but a jest of inspiration They who pretend Divine inspiration to be a supernatural entring of the Holy Ghost into a Man are as he thinks in a very dangerous Dilemma for if they worship not the Men whom they conceive to be inspired they fall into impiety and if they worship them they commit Idolatry So mistaking the Holy Ghost to be corporeal some thing that is blown into a Man and the Graces of the Holy Ghost to be corporeal Graces And the words inpoured or infused virtue and inblown or inspired virtue are as absurd and insignificant as a round Quadrangle He reckons it as a common error That faith and sanctity are not attained by study and reason but by supernatural inspiration or infusion And layeth this for a firm ground Faith and Sanctity are indeed not very frequent but yet they are not Miracles but brought to pass by Education Discipline Correction and other natural wayes I would see the greatest Pelagian of them all fly higher T. H. I make here no jest of Inspiration Seriously I say that in the proper signification of the words Inspiration and Infusion to say virtue is inspired or infused is as absurd as to say a Quadrangle is round But Metaphorically for Gods bestowing of Faith Grace or other Vertue those words are intelligible enough J. D. Why should he trouble himself about the Holy Spirit who acknowledgeth no Spirit but either a subtil fluid body or a Ghost or other Idol or Phantasm of the imagination who knoweth no inward Grace or intrinsecal Holyness Holy is a word which in Gods Kingdom answereth to that which men in their Kingdoms use to call publick or the Kings And again wheresoever the word Holy is taken properly there is still some thing signified of propriety gotten by consent His Holiness is a Relation not a Quality for inward sanctification or real infused holiness in respect whereof the third Person is called the Holy Ghost because he is not only holy in himself but also maketh us holy he is so great a stranger to it that he doth altogether deny it and disclaim it T. H. The word Holy I had defined in the words which his Lordship here sets down and by the use thereof in the Scripture made it manifest That that was the true signification of the word There is nothing in Learning more difficult than to determine the signification of words That difficulty excuses him He says that Holiness in my sence is a Relation not a Quality All the Learned agree that Quality is an Accident so that in attributing to God Holiness as a Quality he contradicts himself for he has in the beginning of this his discourse denyed and rightly that any Accident is in God saying whatsoever is in God is the Divine Substance He affirms also that to attribute any Accident to God is to deny the simplicity of the Divine Substance And thus his Lordship makes God as I do a Corporeal Spirit Both here and throughout he discovers so much ignorance as had he charged me with error only and not with Atheism I should not have thought it necessary to answer him J. D. We are taught in our Creed to believe the Catholick or Universal Church But T. H. teacheth us the contrary That if there be more Christian Churches than one all of them together are not one Church personally And more plainly Now if the whole number of Christians be not contained in one Common-wealth they are not one Person nor is there an Vniversal Church that hath any Authority over them And again The Vniversal Church is not one Person of which it can be said that it hath done or Decreed or Ordained or Excommunicated or Absolved This doth quite overthrow all the Authority of General Councils All other Men distinguish between the Church and the Common-wealth only T. H. maketh them to be one and the same thing The Common-wealth of Christian men and the Church of the same are altogether the same thing called by two names for two reasons For the matter of the Church and of the Common-wealth is the same namely the same Christian men and the Form is the same which consisteth in the lawful power of convocating them And hence he concludeth That every Christian Common-wealth is a Church endowed with all spiritual Authority And yet more fully The Church if it be one Person is the same thing with the Common-wealth of Christians called a Common-wealth because it consisteth of men united in one Person their Soveraign And a Church because it consisteth in Christian men united in one Christian Soveraign Upon which account there was no Christian Church in these Parts of the World for some hundreds of years after Christ because there was no Christian Soveraign T. A. For answer to this Period I say only this That taking the Church as I do in all those places for a company of Christian men on Earth incorporated into one Person that can speak command or do any act of a Person all that he citeth out of what I have written is true and that all private Conventicles though their belief be right are not properly called Churches and that there is not any one Universal Church here on Earth

the same Authority And this he saith upon this silly ground That nothing is a Command the performance whereof tendeth to our own benefit He might as well deny the Ten Commandments to be Commands because they have an advantagious promise annexed to them Do this and thou shalt live And Cursed is every one that continueth not in all the words of this Law to do them T. H. Of the Sacraments I said no more than that they are Signs or Commemorations He finds fault that I add not Seals Confirmations and that they confer grace First I would have asked him if a Seal be any thing else besides a Sign whereby to remember somewhat as that we have promised accepted acknowledged given undertaken somewhat Are not other Signs though without a Seal of force sufficient to convince me or oblige me A Writing obligatory or Release signed only with a mans name is as Obligatory as a Bond signed and sealed if it be sufficiently proved though peradventure it may require a longer Process to obtain a Sentence but his Lordship I think knew better than I do the force of Bonds and Bills yet I know this that in the Court of Heaven there is no such difference between saying signing and sealing as his Lordship seemeth here to pretend I am Baptized for a Commemoration that I have enrolled my self I take the Sacrament of the Lords Supper to Commemorate that Christ's Body was broken and his Blood shed for my redemption What is there more intimated concerning the nature of these Sacraments either in the Scripture or in the Book of Common-Prayer Have Bread and Wine and Water in their own Nature any other Quality than they had before the Consecration It is true that the Consecration gives these bodies a new Relation as being a giving and dedicating of them to God that is to say a making of them Holy not a changing of their Quality But as some silly young men returning from France affect a broken English to be thought perfect in the French language so his Lordship I think to seem a perfect understander of the unintelligible language of the Schoolmen pretends an ignorance of his Mother Tongue He talks here of Command and Counsel as if he were no English man nor knew any difference between their significations What English man when he commandeth says more than Do this yet he looks to be obeyed if obedience be due unto him But when he says Do this and thou shalt have such or such a Reward he encourages him or advises him or Bargains with him but Commands him not Oh the understanding of a Schoolman J. D. Sometimes he is for holy Orders and giveth to the Pastors of the Church the right of Ordination and Absolution and Infallibility too much for a particular Pastor or the Pastors of one particular Church It is manifest that the consecration of the chiefest Doctors in every Church and imposition of hands doth pertain to the Doctors of the same Church And it cannot be doubted of but the power of binding and loosing was given by Christ to the future Pastors after the same manner as to his present Apostles And our Saviour hath promised this infallibility in those things which are necessary to Salvation to his Apostles until the day of Judgment that is to say to the Apostles and Pastors to be Consecrated by the Apostles successively by the imposition of hands But at other times he casteth all this Meal down with his foot Christian Soveraigns are the supream Pastors and the only persons whom Christians now hear speak from God except such as God speaketh to in these dayes supernaturally What is now become of the promised infallibility And it is from the Civil Soveraign that all other Pastors derive their right of teaching preaching and all other functions pertaining to that Office and they are but his Ministers in the same manner as the Magistrates of Towns or Judges in Courts of Justice and Commanders of Armies What is now become of their Ordination Magistrates Judges and Generals need no precedent qualifications He maketh the Pastoral Authority of Soveraigns to be Jure divino of all other Pastors Jure civili He addeth neither is there any Judge of Heresie among Subjects but their own civil Soveraign Lastly the Church Excommunicateth no man but whom she Excommunicateth by the Authority of the Prince And the effect of Excommunication hath nothing in it neither of dammage in this World nor terror upon an Apostate if the Civil Power did persecute or not assist the Church And in the World to come leaves them in no worse estate than those who never believed The dammage rather redoundeth to the Church Neither is the Excommunication of a Christian Subject that obeyeth the Laws of his own Soveraign of any effect Where is now their power of binding and loosing T. H. Here his Lordship condemneth first my too much kindness to the Pastors of the Church as if I ascribed Infallibility to every particular Minister or at least to the Assembly of the Pastors of a particular Church But he mistakes me I never meant to flatter them so much I say only that the Ceremony of Consecration and Imposition of hands belongs to them and that also no otherwise than as given them by the Laws of the Common-wealth The Bishop Consecrates but the King both makes him Bishop and gives him his Authority The Head of the Church not only gives the power of Consecration Dedication and Benediction but may also exercise the Act himself if he please Solomon did it and the Book of Canons says That the King of England has all the Right that any good King of Israel had It might have added that any other King or soveraign Assembly had in their own Dominions I deny That any Pastor or any Assembly of Pastors in any particular Church or all the Churches on earth though united are Infallible Yet I say the Pastors of a Christian Church assembled are in all such points as are necessary to Salvation But about what points are necessary to Salvation he and I differ For I in the 43d chapter of my Leviathan have proved that this Article Jesus is the Christ is the unum necessarium the only Article necessary to Salvation to which his Lordship hath not offered any Objection And he it seems would have necessary to Salvation every Doctrine he himself thought so Doubtless in this Article Jesus is the Christ every Church is infallible for else it were no Church Then he says I overthrow this again by saying that Christian Soveraigns are the Supream Pastors that is Heads of their own Churches That they have their Authority Jure Divino That all other Pastors have it Jure Civili How came any Bishop to have Authority over me but by Letters Patents from the King I remember a Parliament wherein a Bishop who was both a good Preacher and a good Man was blamed for a Book he had a little before Published in maintenance

that should drive them back B. For my part I believe the cause of their descending is not in any natural appetite of the bodies that descend but rather that the Globe of the Earth hath some special motion by the which it more easily casteth off the Air than it doth other bodies And then this descent of those we call heavy bodies must of necessity follow unless there be some empty spaces in the world to receive them For when the Air is thrown off from the Earth somewhat must come into the place of it in case the world be full and it must be those things which are hardliest cast off that is those things which we say are heavy A. But suppose there be no place empty for I will defer the Question till anon how can the Earth cast off either the Air or any thing else B. I shall shew you how and that by a familiar Example If you lay both your hands upon a Basen with water in it how little soever and move it circularly and continue that motion for a while and you shall see the water rise upon the sides and fly over by which you may be assured that there is a kind of circulating motion which would cast off such bodies as are contiguous to the body so moved A. I know very well there is and it is the same motion which Country people use to purge their Corn For the Chaff and Straws by casting the Grain to the side of the Seive will come towards the middle But I would see the Figure B. Here it is There is a Circle pricked out whose Center is A and three less Circles whose Centers are B C D let every one of them represent the Earth as it goeth from B to C and from C to D always touching the uttermost Circle and throwing off the Air as is marked at E and F. And if the world were not full there would follow by this scattering of the Air a great deal of space left empty But supposing the world full there must be a perpetual shifting of the Air one part into the place of another A. But what makes a stone come down suppose from G B. If the Air be thrown up beyond G it will follow that at the last if the motion be continued all the Air will be above G that is above the stone which cannot be till the stone be at the Earth A. But why comes it down still with encreasing swiftness B. Because as it descends and is already in motion it receiveth a new impression from the same cause which is the Air whereof as part mounteth part also must descend supposing as we have done the plenitude of the world For as you may observe by the Figure the motion of the Earth according to the Diameter of the uttermost Circle is progressive and so the whole motion is compounded of two motions one circular and the other progressive and consequently the Air ascends and circulates at once And because the stone descending receiveth a new pressure in every point of its way the motion thereof must needs be accelerated A. 'T is true For it will be accelerated equally in equal times and the way it makes will encrease in a double proportion to the times as hath heretofore been demonstrated by Galileo I see the solution now of an Experiment which before did not a little puzzle me You know that if two plummets hang by two strings of equal length and you remove them from the perpendicular equally I mean in equal angles and then let them go they will make their turns and returns together and in equal times And though the arches they describe grow continually less and less yet the times they spend in the greater arches will still be equal to the time they spend in the lesser B. 'T is true Do you find any Experiment to the contrary A. Yes For if you remove one of the plummets from the perpendicular so as for example to make an angle with the perpendicular of 80 degrees and the other so as to make an angle of 60 degrees they will not make their turns and returns in equal times B. And what say you is the cause of this A. Because the arches are the spaces which these two motions describe they must be in double proportion to their own times which cannot be unless they be let go from equal altitudes that is from equal angles B. 'T is right and the Experiment does not cross but confirm the equality of the times in all the arches they describe even from 90 degrees to the least part of one degree A. But is it not too bold if not extravagant an assertion to say the Earth is moved as a man shakes a Basen or a Seive Does not the Earth move from West to East every day once upon his own Center and in the Ecliptick Circle once a year And now you give it another odd motion How can all these consist in one and the same body B. Well enough If you be a Shipboard under sail do not you go with the Ship Cannot you also walk upon the Deck Cannot every drop of bloud move at the same time in your veins How many motions now do you assign to one and the same drop of bloud Nor is it so extravagant a thing to attribute to the Earth this kind of motion but that I believe if we certainly knew what motion it is that causeth the descent of bodies we should find it either the same or more extravagant But seeing it can be nothing above that worketh this effect it must be the Earth it self that does it and if the Earth then you can imagine no other motion to do it withal but this And you will wonder more when by the same motion I shall give you a probable account of the causes of very many other works of Nature A. But what part of the Heaven do you suppose the Poles of your pricked Circle point to B. I suppose them to be the same with the Poles of the Ecliptick For seeing the Axis of the Earth in this Nation and in the annual motion keeps parallel to it self the Axis must in both motions be parallel as to sense For the Circle which the Earth describes is not of visible magnitude at the distance it is from the Sun A. Though I understand well enough how the Earth may make a stone descend very swiftly under the Ecliptick or not far from it where it throws off the Air perpendicularly yet about the Poles of the Circle methinks it should cast off the Air very weakly I hope you will not say that bodies descend faster in places remote from the Poles than nearer to them B. No but I ascribe it to the like motion in the Sun and Moon For such motions meeting must needs cast the stream of the Air towards the Poles And then there will be the same necessity for the descent there that there is in other places though perhaps

empty space in the Vial before it was sucked And then why does not the water rise to fill that when a man sucks the Vial he draws nothing out neither into his Belly nor into his Lungs nor into his Mouth only he sets the Air within the glass into a circular motion giving it at once an endeavour to go forth by the sucking and an endeavour to go back by not receiving it into his mouth And so with a great deal of labour glues his lips to the neck of the Vial. Then taking it off and dipping the neck of the Vial into the water before the circulation cease the Air with the endeavour it hath now gotten pierces the water and goes out And so much Air as goes out so much matter comes up into the room of it CHAP. IIII. Problems of Heat and Light A. WHat is the cause of Heat B. How know you that any thing is Hot but your self A. Because I perceive by sense it Heats me B. It is no good argument The thing Heats me therefore it is Hot. But what alteration do you find in your body at any time by being Hot A. I find my skin more extended in Summer than in Winter and am sometimes fainter and weaker then ordinary as if my Spirits were exhaled and I sweat B. Then that is it you would know the cause of I have told you before that by the motion I suppose both in the Sun and in the Earth the Air is dissipated and consequently that there would be an infinite number of small empty places but that the World being full there comes from the next parts other Air into the spaces they would else make empty When therefore this motion of the Sun is excercised upon the Superficies of the Earth if there do not come out of the Earth it self some corporal substance to supply that tearing of the Air we must return again to the admission of Vacuum If there do then you see how by this motion fluid bodies are made to exhale out of the Earth The like happens to a mans body or hand which when he perceives he says he is Hot. And so of the Earth when it sendeth forth Water and Earth together in Plants we say it does it by Heat from the Sun A. 'T is very probable and no less probable that the same action of the Sun is that which from the Sea and moist places of the Earth but especially from the Sea fetcheth up the water into the Clouds But there be many ways of Heating besides the action of the Sun or of Fire Two pieces of Wood will take Fire if in Torning they be prest together B. Here again you have a manifest laceration of the Air by the reciprocal and contrary motions of the two pieces of wood which necessarily causeth a coming forth of whatsoever is Aereal or fluid within them and the motion pursued a dissipation also of the other more solid parts into Ashes A. How comes it to pass that a man is warmed even to sweating almost with every extraordinary labour of his body B. It is easie to understand how by that labour all that is liquid in his body is tossed up and down and thereby part of it also cast forth A. There be some things that make a man Hot without sweat or other evaporation as Caustiques Nettles and other things B. No doubt But they touch the part they so Heat and cannot work that effect at any distance A. How does Heat cause light and that partially in some bodies more in some less though the Heat be equal B. Heat does not cause Light at all But in many Bodies the same cause that is to say the same motion causeth both together so that they are not to one another as cause and effect but are concomitant Effects sometimes of one and the same motion A. How B. You know the rubbing or heard pressing of the Eye or a stroke upon it makes an apparition of Light without and before it which way soever you look This can proceed from nothing else but from the restitution of the Organ pressed or stricken unto its former ordinary situation of parts Does not the Sun by his thrusting back the Air upon your eyes press them Or does not those bodies whereon the Sun shines though by reflection do the same though not so strongly And do not the Organs of Sight the Eye the Heart and Brains resist that pressure by an endeavour of restitution outwards Why then should there not be without and before the Eye an apparition of Light in this case as well as in the other A. I grant there must But what is that which appears after the pressing of the eye For there is nothing without that was not there before or if there were methinks another should see it better or as well as he or if in the dark methinks it should enlighten the place B. It is a fancy such as is the appearance of your face in a Looking-glass such as is a Dream such as is a Ghost such as is a spot before the Eye that hath stared upon the Son or Fire For all these are of the Regiment of Fancy without any body concealed under them or behind them by which they are produced A. And when you look towards the Sun or Moon why is not that also which appears before your Eyes at that time a fancy B. So it is Though the Sun it self be a real Body yet that bright Circle of about a foot Diameter cannot be the Sun unless there be two Suns a greater and a lesser And because you may see that which you call the Sun both above you in the Skie and before you in the Water and two Suns by distorting your Eye in two places of the Skie one of them must needs be Fancy And if one both All sense is Fancy though the cause be always in a real Body A. I see by this that those things which the Learned call the Accidents of Bodies are indeed nothing else but diversity of Fancy and are inherent in the Sentient and not in the Objects except Motion and Quantity And I perceive by your Doctrine you have been tampering with Leviathan But how comes Wood with a certain degree of Heat to shine and Iron also with a greater degree but no Heat at all to be able to make water shine B. That which shineth hath the same Motion in its parts that I have all this while supposed in the Sun and Earth In which Motion there must needs be a competent degree of swiftness to move the sense that is to make it visible All Bodies that are not fluid will shine with Heat if the Heat be very great Iron will shine and Gold will shine but water will not because the parts are carried away before they attain to that degree of swiftness which is requisite A. There are many fluid Bodies whose parts evaporate and yet they make a flame as Oyl and Wine and other