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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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priest_n and_o receive_v or_o god_n the_o law_n of_o sacrifice_v which_o he_o teach_v unto_o his_o son_n except_o saunder_n think_v that_o adam_n live_v so_o many_o year_n without_o exercise_n of_o religion_n until_o abel_n and_o cain_n be_v make_v priest_n for_o cain_n be_v name_v to_o have_v offer_v sacrifice_n as_o soon_o as_o abel_n whereby_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o neither_o of_o they_o both_o be_v priest_n but_o adam_n the_o head_n of_o the_o family_n to_o who_o they_o bring_v their_o several_a oblation_n unto_o that_o place_n which_o be_v call_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o lord_n from_o whence_o cain_n be_v banish_v after_o his_o murder_n commit_v concern_v abel_n virginity_n i_o will_v not_o contend_v although_o if_o i_o shall_v follow_v the_o jewish_a tradition_n as_o saunder_n do_v in_o his_o allegorical_a comparison_n in_o diverse_a point_n i_o must_v say_v he_o be_v a_o marry_a man_n have_v to_o wife_n his_o sister_n delbora_n but_o to_o the_o comparison_n saunder_n 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scripture_n to_o feign_v such_o foolish_a figure_n which_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o be_v such_o as_o every_o one_o will_v invent_v out_o of_o his_o own_o imagination_n even_o as_o that_o jest_n of_o saunder_n that_o cain_n do_v bear_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o english_a communion_n in_o which_o nothing_o but_o a_o few_o bsse_a fruit_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v offer_v when_o much_o rather_o i_o may_v say_v that_o cain_n do_v bear_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o murder_v church_n of_o rome_n which_o have_v slay_v so_o many_o abel_n because_o her_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v no_o better_o accept_v but_o what_o shall_v i_o trifle_v after_o so_o vain_a a_o man_fw-mi never_o the_o second_o figure_n be_v of_o melchizedek_n which_o in_o deed_n seem_v plausible_a to_o many_o of_o the_o old_a father_n against_o all_o which_o i_o oppose_v the_o credit_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o hebrew_n who_o omit_v nothing_o that_o in_o melchizedeks_n priesthood_n may_v be_v refer_v to_o christ_n make_v no_o mention_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o melchizedek_n bring_v forth_o of_o princely_a liberality_n &_o not_o of_o priestly_a duty_n and_o yet_o it_o be_v a_o vain_a thing_n for_o the_o papist_n to_o brag_v of_o melchizedeks_n bread_n &_o wine_n when_o they_o in_o their_o sacrifice_n will_v acknowledge_v to_o remain_v neither_o bread_n nor_o wine_n but_o of_o all_o that_o ever_o i_o hear_v it_o be_v a_o most_o impudent_a comparison_n that_o saunder_n make_v of_o melchizedek_n consecrate_v abraham_n by_o blessing_n of_o he_o that_o be_v real_o present_a as_o it_o be_v in_o his_o hand_n and_o christ_n consecrate_v his_o own_o body_n &_o blood_n present_a in_o his_o hand_n at_o the_o time_n of_o his_o blessing_n &_o consecrate_v and_o tant_v the_o sacramentary_n for_o acknowledge_v the_o one_o &_o deny_v
earth_n in_o joan_n tr._n 50._o tsll_v i_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a form_n of_o blood_n which_o be_v shed_v on_o the_o cross_n or_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o his_o blood_n if_o thou_o say_v it_o be_v the_o very_a substance_n which_o thou_o must_v say_v except_o thou_o be_v a_o marcionite_n or_o manichee_n than_o it_o be_v the_o very_a substance_n of_o his_o blood_n which_o augustine_n deny_v to_o be_v drunken_a in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o augustine_n say_v saunder_n be_v so_o full_o persuade_v that_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n after_o consecration_n that_o he_o reach_v the_o christian_a people_n to_o adore_v it_o not_o as_o common_a flesh_n but_o as_o the_o flesh_n of_o god_n for_o who_o sake_n we_o adore_v it_o cù●●d_fw-la ●erram_fw-la quamlibet_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o thou_o bow_v thyself_o or_o fall_v down_o before_o any_o earth_n look_v not_o upon_o be_v as_o earth_n but_o look_v upon_o that_o holy_a one_o 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it_o presuppose_v that_o christ_n give_v occasion_n by_o his_o own_o word_n that_o idolatry_n shall_v be_v commit_v to_o baker_n bread_n etc._n etc._n christ_n give_v none_o occasion_n to_o worship_n bread_n more_o than_o to_o worship_v a_o door_n or_o a_o vine_n tree_n last_o of_o all_o it_o be_v a_o most_o foolish_a thing_n to_o say_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o that_o worship_a and_o also_o to_o teach_v that_o he_o be_v antichrist_n nothing_o more_o agreeable_a to_o reason_n then_o that_o antichrist_n shall_v set_v up_o a_o idol_n that_o he_o himself_o by_o it_o may_v aspire_v to_o the_o great_a honour_n but_o antichrist_n say_v saunder_n be_v a_o adversary_n and_o set_v himself_o against_o christ_n but_o the_o pope_n call_v himself_o the_o vicar_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o servant_n of_o servant_n under_o the_o colour_n of_o these_o title_n he_o arrogate_v to_o himself_o power_n and_o honour_n above_o christ_n to_o give_v pardon_n in_o paper_n seal_v with_o lead_n a_o poena_fw-la &_o culpa_fw-la when_o he_o teach_v that_o the_o pardon_n that_o christ_n seal_v with_o his_o blood_n be_v only_o a_o culpa_fw-la from_o the_o fault_n but_o not_o from_o the_o punishment_n and_o yet_o the_o popein_o his_o canon_n law_n refuse_v not_o to_o be_v call_v god_n above_o all_o go_n second_o antichrist_n advaunce_v himself_o above_o all_o that_o i●_n 〈…〉_o ship_v as_o god_n therefore_o he_o will_v not_o how_o to_o a_o external_a id_fw-la 〈…〉_o come_v of_o superstition_n and_o pusillanimity_n i_o answer_v 〈◊〉_d pope_n although_o he_o stoop_v not_o very_o low_a to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n which_o be_v carry_v before_o he_o on_o a_o pal_z 〈…〉_o when_o he_o himself_o be_v carry_v on_o man_n shoulder_n yet_o he_o pretend_v a_o familiar_a kind_n of_o reverence_n not_o of_o super_fw-la 〈…〉_o on_o but_o of_o subtlety_n and_o fraud_n to_o cover_v his_o pride_n by_o hypocrisy_n that_o with_o deceit_n of_o unrighteousness_n he_o may_v prevail_v in_o 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