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A67211	Primitive Christianity continued in the faith and practice of the people called Quakers being in answer to a pamphlet entituled, Primitive heresie &c. and which may serve as an appendix to a book entituled, An antidote against the venom of the snake in the grass, by George Whitehead / Joseph Wyeth.	Wyeth, Joseph, 1663-1731.	1698 (1698)	Wing W3761; ESTC R27627	39,601	74

nos hodie à Romano Pontifice sine ulla satis justa causa secessionem fecisse priscorum Patrum veterum conciliorum anctoritatem pronihilo putare Caeremonias antiquas à patribus proavis nostris multis jam Seculis bonis moribus melioribus temporis approbatus temerè insolenter abrogasse nostra tantum privata anctoritate injussu sacri Ocumenici consilii novos in Ecclesiam ritus invexisse atque ista nos omnia non Religionis causa sed contention is tantùm studio fecisse Se autem nihil prorsus immutasse omnia vero ut ab Apostolis tradita ab antiquissimis Patribus approbata fuerint ad hunc usque diem per tot secula retinuisse They cry every where this day We are all Hereticks departed from the Faith have rent the Vnity of the Church with now and ungodly Tents that we have Revived and Restored the old Damned Heresies have sown new and unheard of Sects and Madnesses and are already broke into Factions and Divisions nor by any agreement can never be united among our selves Impious Men of monstrous Manners making War against God and living without all Worship and Fear of the Godhead That we despised every right Way and used no Virtuous Discipline nor loved either Laws Manners Religion Right or Equity but let loose the Rein to all manner of Wickedness and Provoked the People to every kind of Licentiousness and Lust and sought and did this that the State of Kingdoms and Monarchies might be over-turned and reduced under the Rule of the Rash and Vnskilful Multitude That we have Tumultuously Separated from the Catholick Church and have shook the Earth with a Nefarious Schism and have troubled the common Peace and Quiet of the Church and as Dathan and Abiram from Aaron and Num. 16. Moses so we this day from the High Priest have made separation without any cause sufficiently just That we account for nothing the Authority of the Ancient Fathers and Old Counsels that we have rashly and insolently Abrogated the Ancient Ceremonies and Good Manners which by or Fathers and Fore-fathers for many Ages were Approved and only by our private Authority have brought new Rites into the Church no Holy and Ocumenick Counsel Commanding and that we have done all these things not for the cause of Religion but only in a Study of Contention But that she is not all changed but that all things as delivered by the Apostles and as they have been Approved by the Ancient Fathers do through so many Ages remain to this very day This with much more in the Apology is said to have been the Charge of Rome and yet I do not doubt but this Man will readily discharge Her from these these alledged Crimes Hence we may have at least this Consolation That we are not therefore Villanously Criminal because Villanously Charged and to shew that we are not so there hath been already Published an Answer to that Venomous Piece of Villanny The Snake in the Grass wherein is also ome notice taken and answer made to some noted Passages in two other Scandalous Pamphlets one Entituled Satan Disrob'd c. and the other A Discourse for Water-Baptism c. which Answer is Entituled An Antidote against the Venom of the Snake c. by George Whitehead in which Answer is a Discovery of the Falsity and Envy of this Loose Charger But as to what is here advanced being what he says he Promised upon this Subject in hopes that the Quakers seeing the Prim. Her P1 .. original of their Errors may bethink themselves and return from whence they have fallen I do tell him that whatsoever his Promise was his Performance is very bad because what he assigns for Original Errors are but his Coppied Fasiti●s upon us having been Charged by our Enemies many Years past and therefore we are very far from returning to Communion with one whose Fellowship is with the Father of Lies As to the Oral Traditive Faith by which he would Confirm Baptism tho' said to be learned within 150 Years after Christ it is what will not do it for the same Antiquity and pretended Authority may be brought for Mistakes more noted But besides Faith is the Gift of God to whom we must look for it and not to the Mouths of Men Indeed if he can absolutely determine the question by the Scriptures the Work is done and then there is no need of any doubtful help but if not it will not avail tho' he bring many Clouds of such Witnesses in the latter Ages and the Reason is plain because Scripture is what he calls his Rule not to be tried by them but they by it and if found contradictory thereto our Dissent cannot be Criminal And notwithstanding he calls this A Cavil we learned from Elder Dissenters we are not afraid to stand by it and therefore pay little Reverence to those nor any thing not purely Apostolical Here he says The late Representations of Quakerism hath given it quite another Turn and Face than it ever had before if he had added Ibid. p. 2. that he knew of it had shewn some Modesty but since he has shewn none I will tell him he is Dogmatically False for our Principles are now no other than what they were when we were first a People for Truth changes not and this I hope will appear beyond Contradiction from the many Quotations I shall have occasion to bring in out of many of our former and latter Books so that the Ground of what he calls our Schism and which I say is our just Dissent will consequently appear as large as before He says He hopes our Conversion is nigh or if already Converted our full Reconciliation to the Church He should have told us what Church he meanes for if he means into Communion with himself that is Scandalous to say no worse at present if he means to the Church of England I cannot think she would send a Rebellious Son to call us And here I will take opportunity to Confute a Lying Boast I have heard and which is favoured by what himself hath said above viz. He hath brought over a great many from Us I know not nor cannot hear and I have inquired of one Silly Quaker who is yet so Ignorant as to go from our Allowed Meetings to his Unallowed One And therefore when this his pretended Service is urged as an Argument for his Attonement and Reconciliation I can assure them the Argument is False and there is great Reason it should for God advances not Truth by Piè fraudes much less Impié fraudes He changes Stile and now Fawns calling W. Penn The Valuable Mr. Penn. At the end of his Book he changes again and would there Insinuate This his now Valuable Mr. Penn to be there very weak of which in its place I shall here a little interrupt the Thread of my Discourse upon this Pamphlet of Primitive Heresie c. and bestow a few Words

P. 11 12. It is objected against us who are called Quakers That Concerning the Sum or Substance c. Isaac Pennington we deny Christ and look not to be Saved by him as he was manifested without us but look only to be Saved by a Christ in us To which this is in my Heart to answer to such as singly desire satisfaction therein We do indeed expect to be Saved yea and not only so but do already in our several measures witness Salvation by the Revelation and Operation of the Life of Christ within us yet not without relation to what he did without us For all that he did in that Body of Flesh was of the Father and had its Place and Service in the Will and according to the Counsel of the Father But the Knowledge and Belief of that since the days of the Apostles hath been very much held in the Unrighteousness and in the Separation from the Inward Work of the Power and Life of Christ in the Heart which as so held cannot Save any But whoever feels the Light and Life of Christ revealed in him and comes into Union with God there-through he feels the Work of Regeneration of Sanctification of Justification of Life and Redemption and so comes to reap Benefit inwardly and to partake of the Blessed Fruits of all that Christ did outwardly Yea he that is thus one with Christ in the Spirit cannot exclude himself nor is excluded by God from the Advantage of any thing nor every thing that Christ did in that Body of Flesh P. 243. The Doctrines and Principles of the People called Immediate Revelation c. By Geo. Keith Quakers as well as the People do indeed more acknowledge the Man Christ Jesus than any of them all Inasmuch as we do believe and acknowledge that a measure of the same Life and Spirit of the Man Christ Jesus which dwelt in him in its Fullness and had its Center in him which came in the Flesh and was born of the Virgin Mary and is now glorified in Heaven is communicated unto us and extends it self into our Hearts and Souls and whole Inward Man so that the Man Jesus who Simeon imbraced with his Arms according to the Flesh is according to the Spirit our Life and Glory by whom we receive Light Grace and Truth and through whom we have access unto God P. 358. Yet notwithstanding for your Satisfaction we do now Journal Geo. Fox plainly and sincerely declare That we Own and Believe in God the Only Wise Omnipotent and Everlasting God who is the Creator of all things both in Heaven and in the Earth and the Preserver of all that he hath made who is God over all Blessed for ever To whom be all Honour and Glory Dominion Praise and Thanksgiving both now and for evermore And we do Own and Believe in Jesus Christ his beloved and only begotten Son in whom he is well pleased who was Conceived by the Holy Ghost and Born of the Virgin Mary in whom we have Redemption through his Blood even the Forgiveness of Sins Who is the express Image of the Invisible God the First-born of every Creature by whom were all things created that are in Heaven and that are in Earth Visible and Invisible whether they be Thrones or Dominions or Principalities or Powers all things were Created by him And we do Own and Believe that He was made a Sacrifice for Sin who knew no Sin neither was Guile found in his Mouth And that he was Crucified for us in the Flesh without the Gates of Jerusalem and that he was Buried and Rose again the Third day by the Power of his Father for our Justification And we do Believe that he ascended up into Heaven and now sitteth at the right Hand of God This Jesus who was the Foundation of the Holy Prophets and Apostles is our Foundation And we do Believe that there is no other Foundation to be laid but that which is laid even Christ Jesus who we Believe tasted Death for every Man and shed his Blood for all Men and is the Propitiation for our Sins and not for ours only but also for the Sins of the whole World P. 149. We do Believe in One Only Holy God Almighty who A Serious Apology c. 1671. By G. Whitehead and W. Penn. is an Eternal Spirit the Creator of all things And in One Lord Jesus Christ his Only Son and express Image of his Substance who took upon him Flesh and was in the World and in Life Doctrine Miracles Death Resurrection Ascention and Mediation perfectly did and does continue to do the Will of God to whose Holy Life Power Mediation and Blood we only ascribe our Sanctification Justification Redemption and Perfect Salvation And we Believe in One Holy Spirit that proceeds and breaths from the Father and the Son as the Life and Vertue of both the Father and the Son a measure of which is given to all to profit with and he that has one has all for those Three are One who is the Alpha and Omega the First and the Last God over all Blessed for ever Amen To these foregoing Citations I could add very many more both of older and later date but as I would not needlesly quote Instances so I hope the Reader will not account me hitherto Superfluous in rescuing our selves from Calumny and Abuse in a Charge which appears so plainly to be False for a plain as is the Sun when on its Meridian so plain is it that we sincerely own and heartily believe all that the Holy Scriptures testifie concerning the Incarnation of Christ and the Union of both Natures that is as God and Man SECT III. HIS next Calumny in the order of his Charge is That we deny the Truth and Reality of his Death and Sufferings In proof of our Belief whereof I am already in good part prevented by the foregoing Testimonies in almost all of which there is some mention of his Crucifixion as well as of his Birth But however I am content to answer exabundanti not wanting Instances of our Belief herein from whence I can allow Measure pressed down and running over Some Testimonies to the Truth and Reality of Christ's Death and Suffering Page 3. Before Abraham was I am who was in the Beginning The Path of the Just Cleared 1655. By G. Whitehead which was the Word by which all things were made which Word became Flesh and dwelt among John 8. 58. John 1. the Disciples and Suffered at Jerusalem and witnessed a good Confession before Pontius Pilate whom Pilate delivered up to the Jews and the Chief Priests and Elders whom they mocked and despitefully used and put to Death concerning the Flesh but is raised up by the Spirit and ascended into Glory which Glory he prayed for even that Glory John 17. John 5. 22. John 10. 30. whereby he was at first by his Father glorified in wherein he is glorified in his Saints and