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A61105 The vvay to everlasting happinesse: or, the substance of christian religion methodically and plainly handled in a familiar discourse dialogue-wise: wherein, the doctrine of the Church of England is vindicated; the ignorant instructed, and the faithfull directed in their travels to heaven. By Benjamin Spencer, preacher of the word of God at Bromley neer Bow in Middlesex. Spencer, Benjamin, b. 1595? 1659 (1659) Wing S4945; ESTC R222156 362,911 329

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having not the spirit that lusteth against the flesh Gal. 5.17 whereas in the members of the Church militant Christ liveth by the holy spirit deriving to them sense life and spirituall motion Nor do we number hypocrites to be of the Church militant though in the visible Church by partaking of the doctrine and Sacraments because they want those vertues and graces which proves one to be a member of the mysticall body of Christ as faith to apprehend Christ the head and foundation and to be united to him and therefore can bear no fruit in him but must be taken away Iohn 15.2 though they be in Church visible which Church the Papists only acknowledging may well hold that the true Church is alwaies visible Mathe. Why is it not so Phila. You are to consider that the tearm or word Church is diversly understood First for the universall company of beleevers and so it is invisible and therefore it is said in the Creed I beleeve the holy Catholike Church now faith is the evidence of things not seen Secondly Church is taken for a company of men in particular places professing one and the same true religion and so it is visible Again if you take the Church in the externall form of it namely for a company of men met together to perform Church duties so the Church is visible but if you take it in its internall form consisting in efficacious calling and faith so it is invisible for it is hard to judge who hath these graces Therefore certainly neither the whole Catholick Church nor all that part of it called militant is visible But some part of the Church militant hath and is but yet is not necessary to be alwaies visible but may possibly lie hid and unappearing at some times Aug. in lib. 5. cont Donat. c. 17 Rev. 13.13 14 In which regard the Church is called a garden inclosed and a fountain sealed Cant. 4.11 and the weapons of her warfare to be spirituall 2 Cor. 10.4 When Antichrist reigned over the world where was then the Church visible surely fled like the woman Rev. 12.16 into some solitary place as Eliah was forced to do by Iesabel 1 Kin. 19.10 Indeed there hath been and I fear will be again when our Sun will be darkned and her Moon will not give her light and our Stars fall from the Churches heaven And when you see the abomination of heresies schisme and libertinisme set up in Gods Temple let him that is in Christianity fly to the Scripture for there you shall only find what the true Church is namely certain people called at divers houres some at the first some at the second others at the third So at the beginning middle and end of the world and not all alike at all times sometimes clouded sometimes more resplendent so that it is not alwaies visible nor alwaies alike visible Mathe. Whether is the visible Church subject to defects or errors Phila. Yes for Adam and Eve fell in Paradise and afterward the world was so wicked that the Church remained only in Noahs family And after God had chosen the people of Israel to be his Church they worshipped the golden Calfe and for that and other sins we find them left without Religion Priest or Law 2 Chron. 5. and their Temple ruin'd and themselves dispersed Christ saith that faith shal hardly be found on the earth 2 Thes 2. and St Paul prophecieth of a generall apostacy So in the time of Athanasius the Christian world was over-run with Arianisme only Athanasius stood for Christ that he was of the same substance with the Father But he was but one man and one man could not make a Church so that the Church as well as the Moon may suffer an eclipse especially when the sword shall awake against the shepherd Zach. 13.7 and he shall be smitten and the sheep scattered So likewise the visible Church may erre not the Church Catholick and universall for truth could not be found then upon earth nor any visible militant Church for then they have no truth to fight for But the visible Church as it consisteth of its outward matter and form namely of a company of men exercised about Ecclesiasticall matters may erre and so it did before the Law in the time of the Patriarks and under the Law as the Church of Israel and since the Law For the visible Church of the Jewes persecuted the Christians and the Disciples were all offended and stumbled at Christs sufferings and hardly beleeved at first his resurrection yea and after it erred about his Kingdome Acts 1.6 which they thought should be earthly So they doubted a while about the calling of the Gentiles Acts 10.20 cap. 11.2 So we find the Church of the Corinths full of division 1 Cor. 1.11 and schismes and doubts of the resurrection of the dead 1 Cor. 15. and the Church of Galatia falling back to Judaisme by circumcision Gal. 5.1 2 3. Yea all the Eastern Churches as wel as the seven Churches of the lesser Asia have had their errors and remaine in some as the Papists say even till now Yea generall Councils have not been free for one hath disallowed what the other hath allowed and both cannot therefore be true As the Councill of Franckford broke down the Images in Churches Aug. lib. de unita Eccles c. 3. which the second Councill of Nice restored and so many others did one contradict another which sheweth the Churches imperfection and that it stands not with her nature to be free from error for then if she did once erre she could be no longer a Church Therefore the Church of Rome if it be a visible Church can chalenge no such prerogative especially since Antichrist sitteth there as chiefe governor Hier. in Epist Rustic since which time by avarice the Law is perished from the Priest and vision from the Prophet Mathe. I pray tell me the notes of a true visible Church Phila. I suppose you mean particular Churches in severall nations For the universall Catholike Church is rather to be beleeved then seen as is implied in that Article of the Creed I beleeve the holy Catholike Church There be therefore three notes of a true visible Church First a sincere preaching of the Word Secondly a pure dispensation of Sacraments And thirdly a right administration of discipline These are the notes of a true Church though all of them are not sound alwaies and at the same time in a Church As the Jewes for forty years in the wildernesse wanted circumcision so sometime some ministers may possibly through ignorance infirmity or fear or to please greatnesse depart from sincere doctrine and so by the dragons taile many stars are cast to the earth and by some of them the waters are made bitter Rev. 8.11 yet may it be a true Church so long as the discession from pure doctrine is not generall So a Church may by ministers neglect want Sacraments and by the tyranny
all things One called it a mind the other nature i. such a Nature as doth naturate all things else and limits all things in nature therefore he cals God * 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hom. in Hym. Dion Halic Antiq. Rom. lib. 2. circumspection And I conceive upon the same grounds the Greeks worshipped a god called Jupiter 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Jupiter the limiter And so did the Romans worship Jovem terminalem the bound-setting god all which sheweth that God is the bounder of nature and that which boundeth nature is God And indeed if there were not such a limiter as God is mans appetite naturall sensitive and intellective nature could never be satisfied for all the labour of man is for his mouth Eccl. 6.7 and yet the soule is not satisfied with good why because such a man looks not in using the creature upon the chiefe good which is God For the righteous eateth to the satisfying of his soule because he makes Gods glory the end of his eating but the belly of the wicked wanteth true content Nor could mans sensitive appetite be ever satiated Pro. 13.25 not the eie with seeing nor the ear with hearing nor the heart by having what it desireth Alexander hearing Democritus pretend more worlds grieved that he had not conquered one Nor can our intellectuall appetite or our desire of knowledge be satisfied in the search of things since the place of wisedome is not found either in height or depth and that the son of Syrach saith Job 28.14 Eccles 24.21 that he that eateth of wisedome shall have the more hunger for the more we know the more we see something we know not so that to read much is a wearinesse to the flesh and that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow therefore there must be something above all naturall science to satisfie this desire or such desires are given in vain Again there must be a God because there must be a cause of things for nothing can make or beget it selfe without something that was in actuall being before which must be a selfe essence or being and that is God or nothing and of nothing comes nothing Mathe. The being of a Godhead being so evident and plain how came Atheisme or the denying of a God into the world Phila. By neglect of naturall principles which manifests a godhead to resist which is not only foolish but impious So Rom. 1.21 when they knew God they did glorifie as God 2. By setting wit above wisedome and disputing against principles which may not be denied though being prime truths they cannot so easily be proved no more then we can give reason why fire should burn rather then water though we know it doth so and he that will not beleeve it because one cannot prove it should even be burnt to convince him 3. By mistakes of men who writing against the heathen gods have been thought to deny all Godhead So Diagoras rather denied the Athenian gods than denied the true God So Theodorus said that he was misunderstood because he delivered his words with the right hand but his auditors took them with the left Morn c. 1. de Relig. And Protagoras rather voided the disputing of the question then denied a God to be I beleeve there have been as bad if not worse Atheists then they As those that fall into Antatheisme making their belly their god Phil. 3.19 or their pleasures Eurip. 2 Tim. 3.4 and some pretend there is neither God nor Devill heaven nor hell like the Poets Cyclops Arnob. lib. 8. cont genti who wil not leave their impudence til they be thunder-struck or be transfixed by the darts of the divine wisedome and vengeance Yet there are some closer Atheists who say that policy first brought in Religion And this too many children have by rote by reading Poeticall Tragedies and some other books and so suck in that while they are children which they ruminate on too much when they be older As Euripides brings in one Siphysus relating that men being full of vices the wiser sort were fain to make Lawes to bridle their exorbitancies but yet could not suppresse their secret evils at last a crafty man told them the way was to put into the peoples head that there was one called God Lue. in Treg who heard saw and understood all things This man was a close and cunning Atheist like Lucian who brings in a carping Cynick and an Epicure disputing against Jupiter as if he had no hand in it himselfe And I beleeve there be many who will not denie God in publick Tull. de Nat. deor l. 1. Sen. lib. 2. nat Q. c. 24. who yet are content among weak and witty men to consent to it Some learned Romans thought Religion but a witty invention to keep men in awe and it may well be said so of their Religion and such as their Numa set up by the help of the Nymph Aegeria But these men understood nothing of the Jewish or Christian Religion set forth of God and his Son Jesus Christ Euseb Eccl. Hist l. 2. c. 2. And therefore as the Romans refused to receive Christ as God in open Senate in the time of Tyberius so God gave them up to worship Simon Magus a conjurer for a god in the time of Claudius Let no man therefore think Religion a fiction lest he think God also a figment Mathe. As there is a God so I pray tell me is there no more but one Phila. If there be any God at all he can be but one for these reasons 1. Because whatsoever is God must be the chiefest good from which word good the word God is derived Now there cannot possibly be two chiefs or superlatives nor more then one superiour from whence the Great Turk takes his Axiom one God in heaven and one Sultan upon earth yea the Pope would have but one Catholick Bishop and one Catholick King which is but a tyrannicall usurpation For God that is one above all in heaven and earth never gave any such dignity to any either in heaven or earth but only to the Son who is one with the Father 2. Whatsoever is God must be the first of all things Now there can be but one first and so but one god for what is first is but one Now nothing cannot be first for then nothing must be second and so consequently no world no creatures But such seconds there are and therefore there must be a first thing sprung of it selfe making all but made of none no not himselfe i. not the subject matter of himselfe and so framed of some other being but this one ariseth from himselfe and can be resolved no farther then into himselfe 3. If there were more gods then one then one must differ from the other in some essentiall property and so one God must have that which the other hath not and so one or both are imperfect and so there can be but one God