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A08773 Two briefe treatises The one containing matter of perswasion and expostulation concerning catechisme with certaine positions of like consideration. The other, touching peace betweene the minister and his people: as likewise the lawfulnesse, and dutie of the ministers presenting (if need require) outward disobedience vnto his ministerie. C. P., fl. 1616. 1616 (1616) STC 19059; ESTC S120093 15,965 59

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TWO BRIEFE TREATISES The one containing matter of Perswasion and Expostulation concerning CATECHISME With certaine Positions of like consideration The other touching Peace betweene the Minister and his People As likewise the lawfulnesse and dutie of the Ministers Presenting if need require outward disobedience vnto his Ministerie LVKE 19.39 40. And some of the Pharisees which were of the companie said vnto him Master Rebuke thy Disciples But he answering said vnto them If these hold their peace the stones shall crie LONDON Printed by W. Stansby for William Butler and are to be sold at his shop in S. Dunstanes Church-yard in Fleetstreet 1616. TO MY GODLIE AND REVEREND BRETHREN of the MINISTERIE Grace and Mercie from GOD in CHRIST HAuing by speciall occasion and for the vse of mine owne laboured this little thing supposing some other rurall Congregations also might not be vnlike and it comming to the sight of some of my friends of greater learning and iudgement by farre then my selfe and thought not vnfit to goe abroad for winning in people if God so blesse it more willing obedience vnto this Exercise yea and some little incitation vnto some of y●● my Brethren with leaue be it spoken slumbering I know not how yes by a sole estimation as I iudge of the maruellous indeede Diuine and most excellent Exercise of publike Preaching the glorie thereof by much and often beholding hauing dazeled your eyes for farre be it from any hauing the spirit of Christ to say or thinke this Chaire is base and below mine honour where the chiefest in the Church may sit with grace and grauitie this thing weake and beneath my strength wherein the tallest and strongest may goe deepe vnto his length in the neglect of this dutie diuine also and such as making the beautie of Preaching the more to shine the profit of Preaching the more to spread very kindly and comely as mother and daughter or friend with friend may go together I commend it to your godly consideration and my selfe to your charitable opinion seeking herein nothing else but the best welfare of you and yours and praying for the same vnto Him who hauing loued vs so as laying down his life for our sakes and looking for this very fruit of our loue towards him againe saith vnto euery Peter Feede Feede not my Sheepe onely but also my Lambes euen with this Milke at the first as fittest for them Your willing though weake fellow-laborer in the worke of the Ministerie C. P. Faults escaped PAge 2. in the margent adde l. 2. Esai 65. 1. l. 5. Prou. 1.24 l. 7. Iohn 8.40 p. 7. l. 23. for hardly knowne reade vtterly vnknowne p. 9. l. 9. in the marg adde Athanas in Symbol operum Tom. 2. p. 10. l 16. for If reade Of p. 15. l. 24 for to a plentifull reade to a plentifull p. 16. l. 1. for ble reade ble p. 20. l. 10. for Examinants reade Example p. 31. l. 4. for bee reade bee p. 33. l. 6. for Ministers reade Ministers without comma p. 34. l. 24. for truth reade truth p. 35. l. 12 for one reade one without comma l. 18. in marg Ezech. 3.19 p. 36. l. 21. for Ministerie reade Ministerie p. l. 4. for this reade thease l 19. for Church reade Church p. 39. l. 4. for or reade by p. 42. l. 8. marg for 2. Cor. 2. reade 2. Cor. 4.2 p. 43. l. 8. marg for Psal 100. reade Psal 110. p. 46. l. 22. marg for Iere. 24. reade Iere. 23. p. 49. l. 5. put out and. l. 22. for a reade and. p. 50. l. 1. reade euen the soule p. 51. l. 23 for 23.26 reade 20.26 in the margent A BRIEFE TREATISE CONTAINING matter of Perswasion and Expostulation concerning CATECHISME With certaine Positions of like consideration THat the first sinne and vnlawfull desire of passing diuine knowledge procured by the Deuill hath brought into our nature through Gods just judgement in punishing by the contrarie not Ignorance alone but the bondage a 2. Cor. 3.17 of ignorance if we were ignorant the wilfull ignorance of manie in the things of God especially most lowdly proclaymeth it And in this are three degrees first an indisposition or no inclination of our selues to seeke the truth Secondly a declination to winde away from truth when the same is offered and thirdly an opposition and ciuile warre against the truth The sinne and shame hereof being so much the greater as that wee all must confesse that the Vow of Baptisme to renounce the Deuill and his Kingdome of ignorance is to the contrarie For we here speake not of professed Infidels but of Christians so called and yet refusing instruction for Christian knowledge Against whome as a weake and vnworthie Minister in this Church yet willing by Gods grace to instruct mine owne and here as speaking to mine owne I thus reason first in the words of Christ Which of you can rebuke me of sinne And he here meaneth it as I also doe and must of necessitie of falsehood which is the sinne of Doctrine But if I teach you the truth why doe yee not beleeue b Ioh. 8.46 it or at least embrace the knowledge of it But as the Iewes oppressed with the light and euidence of truth and so vrged indeede to yeeld their subjection to Christ and the Deuill on the contrarie to hold his owne pulling them backe and putting in their mindes and mouthes to call for his authoritie asked him saying By what authoritie doest thou these things and who gaue thee this authoritie c Math. 21.23 As seeming if this might appeare they would then giue place for truth indeed taught by authoritie hath great power to perswade if grace be not vtterly banished out of the heart so the people in this striuing and strugling against the obedience of publike CATECHISME the truth therein taught hauing vanquished their thoughts seeke here to breake loose speaking thus in effect and almost in verie words against their Teachers What authoritie haue they to compell vs to this And why should they bring vs vnder their girdle To whome I answere in manner almost as Christ there of Iohn his Baptisme for defence of himselfe Authoritie The Authoritie of the Church to command and compell her children as in this shee doth d Can. 59. for the good of their soules is it not from Heauen Is it not from Christ Who hath all power giuen him in Heauen and in Earth e Math. ●8 18 saying vnto Peter and the rest of the Apostles and in them to the whole Church and namely the Gouernours thereof To thee will I giue the keyes of the kingdome of Heauen whatsoeuer thou shalt bind on Earth shall be bound in Heauen and whatsoeuer thou shalt loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heauen f Math. 16.19 And if this preuaile not with them I leaue them to that number which say in the Psalme Let vs breake their bonds asunder Psal 2.3 and cast away their