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A94135	The Jesuite the chiefe, if not the onely state-heretique in the world. Or, The Venetian quarrell. Digested into a dialogue. / By Tho: Swadlin, D.D.	Swadlin, Thomas, 1600-1670.	1646 (1646)	Wing S6218; Thomason E363_8; ESTC R201230	173,078	216

received it of men 5. All Subjects that live say you Hetrodox within a Kings dominions are not his lawfull Subjects immediately by Gods holy ordinance but all christians are immediately the Popes vassals Now you know and no man better that Correllatives are simul natura in a condition of relation by their proper nature the one to the other If therfore the secular and laic Prince have any power to command his naturall Subjects to live in the state of Subjects immediately from God then Obligation of all his naturall Subjects to yeeld their due Prince all due obedience of lawful Subjects is in like manner imediately from God And as the title of a subject to this dominion or breaking of some penall Statute or committing some notorious offence within this dominion makes me subject unto my Soveraign Lord the King or the State So the character of a christian makes me a subject unto the Pope at least as we Catholics believe and teach And as this man is not my King or Prince but by his inheritance election c. So none can be saluted and stiled Pope but by Canonicall and authenticall election of the Cardinals Now then as the character of Baptisme say we markes a man for the Popes lawfull Subject in spiritualibus Even so for a man to be born or to break a penall Statute for example within the Venetian dominion and State markes a man for the Venetian Republics lawfull Subject and to be born or to break a penall Statute within the Kingdome of France marks a man for the French Kings lawfull Subject 6. Again you have put down and vouched one point for positive and certain which is by catholic Doctors held to be dubitable and questionable namely whether the Popes power and authority when he is gone the beaten way of all flesh doth rest in the Church or whether the Church remaines void of such authority and power so soon as the Pope breathes out his last gaspe Surely those who stand tooth and nayle for the Romish opinion that I may take up the Stile of Navarrus C. Novit will have all power whatsoever in the Roman Bishops to be wholly derived from the Pope so that when the Pope dyes all the Bishops are at a stand or non-plus rather not able to break nor so much as once to bend or bowe the point of this pressing consequence ergo when the Pope dyes the Prelates of the Roman Church are cut off and barred of all their former authority whereupon they wheel and go round about the Bush maintaining with might and main as if Hanibal the Carthagenian Generall were ad Portas in Leaguer before the very gates of Rome that in the Church the foresaid Power is not inherent and yet is inherent in the Church which is to utter and poure out darke riddles or Delphian oracles and to broach mysteries not intelligible Yea it is cleer that Cardinall Bellarmine holds very firm and stiffe that when the Pope dyes the said power vanisheth like smoak out of the Church for he contends that when the Prince dyes the regall authority lives and rests in the community or whole body of Peers and people at least for those Princes who are mounted to Kingdomes or other States by election but when the Pope dyes then the papall authority lives not in the Cardinals by whom the Pope is elected nor yet in the Church This opinion howsoever defended and maintained by Cajetane and those of Rome is encountered and crossed with a contrary opinion held tooth and nayl by the Parisians by the whole Sarbone in generall and in particular by Johan Maior Ja. Almanius Gerson Cap. Novit de Iudi. Notab 3. as it is testified by Navarrus yea Navarrus himselfe marshals this opinion in the rancke of doubtfull Assertions howsoever Cardinall Bellarmine there sets it down for certain whereas in other passages he leaves it as doubtfull 7. You stand much for the word pasce oves feed my sheep as expresly and personally spoken to Peter alone and not likewise to the Church or by name to the rest of the Apostles But I must now tell you Hetrodox that many Doctors do stand not onely for the said words pasce oves feed my sheep but also for the words dabo claves I will give thee the Keyes to be spoken both alike without all question unto Peter howbeit in the person of the whole Church as the Parisians doe both strongly and perspicuously prove Nor can it be a good consequence that because feed my sheepe and I will give thee the Keyes were both spoken to Peter therefore the same words were not spoken to the rest of the Apostles for it is generally confessed and granted of all that all the Apostles were of equall authority howsoever Peter for his faithfull confession made of Christ as also for bearing a most remarkable excesse of love and affection to the person of Christ might seem perhaps to deserve some title of preheminency and prerogative of dignity above the other Apostles The plain verity hereof appeares by that famous passage in the Gospell where Christ having most gracious and heavenly communication with all the Apostles together Mat. 18. and as it were in a knot vouchsafed to use the very same words unto them all that he had used unto Peter before Quaecunque ligaveritis whatsoever yee shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven Lib. 1. de Rom. pont C. 12. and whatsoever yee shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven of which passage the most illustrious Cardinall Bellarmine himselfe hath advisedly been pleased to afford this fayre exposition est igitur communis c. It is the common exposition of S. Jerome Anselmus Hilarius with diverse other writers upon this passage Tract 22. 49. in Ioh. as also of S. August that our Lord there speaks concerning the power of the Keyes whereby the Apostles and other successors of Christ do bind and loose sinners which power a little after the same Lord Cardinall affirmes to be understood both concerning the power of order Mat. 18. and also concerning the power of jurisdiction promised to the Apostles in the foresaid passage but fully and actually given to all the Apstoles by Christ when he said to them all Joh. 20. Peace be unto you As my father hath sent me so do I send you whereas the power of order was given in the last Supper Now that pasce oves feed my sheepe and tibi dabo claves I will give thee the Keyes when both were spoken to Peter Tract 50. in Joh. were in like sort addressed to the Church S. Augustine makes it manifest by his luculent authority and testimony worthy of all credit Si in Petro non esset Ecclesiae Sacramentum c. If the Church was not in Peter sacramentally for certain the Lord Iesus would never have said to Peter I will give unto thee the Keyes of the Kingdome of heaven And if these

or the Romane people or anie other should be invested with power to create the Emperour of the West I see no Reason to argue upon that maine point in this place or at this instant 6. You lay to my charge that I utter contradictions to the sayings of Popes and the Decrees of Councels yet you know there is no such matter I onely averre that Leo did what he then did not by anie Right annexed or inherent in his Pontificiall Power whereas the said Popes and the Councell speake de Facto of the fact it selfe and perhaps de alio jure human● of some other humane Right whereof I make no manner of mention 7. You made no bones to affirme in your former objections against my first Proposition that Authoritie to chuse the Prince in case of necessitie resteth in the Subjects or People and now you denie the Romane people had any power to chuse Charles for their Emperour 8. You stick not also to approve the Election of the Emperour made by the Armie and Romane Militia which was a violent Election Augustus was honoured with power of Tribune after Caesar the lawfull Prince of the Romanes he was not elected by the Armie but by the People from whom he obtained the consular Power though hee was afterward confirmed therein by a violent Election of the Armie to which the Romane People not of Power then to beard or brave the Armie were glad to give faire Aime and to make way by condescention As for St. Jerome by you cited Hetrodox he speakes onely of the Fact hee doth not affirme that way and none other was the lawfull way of chusing their Emperours And this I must now tell you Hetrodox is most certaine that Vespasian had no humour to be elected but by the votes and suffrages of the Romane People with the verie same power of Augustus I appeale to that famous Marble in the Capitoll with title of Lex Regia c. 9. You give approbation to the violent Fact of the Souldiers in Armes who shew Maximus Balbinus because they had beene elected by the Senate whereas the Election was fastne by the Lawes and sowed to the peoples arme because the Romane Government was Democraticall 10. Platina with divers other Authors hath testified that Charles the Great was onely declared Emperour by the Pope with a loud voice and that Leo crowned him Scito precibus Populi Romani by Decree and upon the suite of the Romane People Now to the same D●cree you bring this fine interpretation that doubtlesse the people did not decree that Leo should publish proclaim and crown him Emperor but only they should request Leo to doe it propriâ authoritate by his Papall authoritie A man that lookes not well into this quaint device and slie tricke may thinke and say the Romane people passed the same Decree in a certaine conceit or dreame that such power was devolved to them in case of necessitie and not otherwise by Right But you against reason and right sense of the words will have the Fact attributed to the Pope who by right of Popedome could worke no such effect and so you forsake the ordinarie waies for approbation of the Fact seeking the refuge of extraordinarie waies not intelligible 11. You produce that for a Reason which resteth in the Question For as you pretend and contend to translate Empires and States it is enough for one to be Pope This you confirme because some Popes though but a few have had the spirit and face to worke such f●ats and to play such prankes The most of those few have indeed given the attempt but I beseech you Sir with what successe And albeit some few but verie seldome have not missed of their marke this makes no proofe that anie Pope either doth it or can do it as he is Pope For Arguments drawne from the Fact to the Right are not worth a blew point especiallie when the right is contrarie to the Fact For the Pontificiall See as it is the Pontificiall See not having the exercise of anie such Dominion annexed thereunto neither by the example of Christ our Lord or of all the Popes for many hundred yeares nor by any Text of holy Scripture whensoever the Pope hath exercised any such Dominion to render a Reason thereof it shall not be needfull to run or flye to the Popedome but rather to some humane constitution or violence or Title 12. Last of all you declare a strange vaine of distemper in telling me this Doctrine that no exercise of Temporall Dominion is annexed to the Popedome by Gods Word is an errour in Theologie and an Herefie in Historie You must now be contented if I pay you in the same Coyne that for any to say the contrarie it is an Errour in Historie and nothing conformable to Theologie as before hath beene declared Have you now anie new tire of Ordnance to discharge Hetrodox Not against your third Proposition Orthodox But have at your fourth to morrow morning Orthodox Agreed Hetrodox The fourth daies Conference upon the fourth Proposition Hetrodox WEll met valiant Champion Defendant Orthodox And you mighty Champion opponent Are your Peeces for batterie readie to discharge Hetrodox At first sight of your Sconce Orthodox Here it is in all Dimensions and Delineations That Authoritie which Christ our Lord promised to St. Peter under a Metaphor of Keyes is meerly Spirituall I will give thee the Keyes of the Kingdome of Heaven hee saith not of any earthlie Kingdome For in what manner the Temporall Kingdome and Monarchie should be governed the Plat-forme was drawn and the Foundation was laid from the beginning of the World by God himselfe great Monarch of the universe So that Christ our Saviour never founded the Temporall Monarchie it remaines then that he was the Founder of the Spirituall And that 's most evident in St. Johns Gospell Ioan. 20. For after he had said all power is given unto mee both in Heaven and in Earth Ioan. 20. at anie hand he would give the same to Peter and all the rest of his Apostles with a certain limitation He breathed on them all and said receive the Holie Ghost to whomsoever ye shall remit sinnes they shall be remitted and whose sinnes whosoever ye shall retaine they shall be retained From whence it is to be gathered both by the Act of Christ and by his words that all the authoritie of the highest Bishop is meerly Spirituall over sin and onely over the Soule which power as hath beene said is a limited power Qui beato Petro animas ligandi atque solvendi Pontificium tradidisti who hast given Peter the Dignitie and Power of Pontificiall estate to bind and loose innumerable Soules Mat. 18. Thus the Church you know in her Orisons yea the Authority to excommunicate given to Peter himselfe is tyed to a condition If thy Brother shall sinne against thee and shall not heare the Church let him be unto thee as a verie Ethnick and