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48._o pray_v that_o god_n in_o who_o sight_n he_o walk_v and_o the_o angel_n who_o deliver_v he_o from_o evil_n shall_v bless_v his_o child_n this_o be_v it_o that_o be_v understand_v in_o that_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n the_o communion_n of_o saint_n that_o the_o saint_n of_o the_o triumphant_a church_n in_o heaven_n of_o the_o militant_a on_o earth_n and_o the_o patient_n in_o purgatory_n have_v a_o communication_n of_o prayer_n and_o merit_n betwixt_o they_o that_o those_o of_o heaven_n pray_v for_o we_o and_o we_o by_o our_o prayer_n and_o suffrage_n do_v help_v they_o in_o purgatory_n mr_n sall_n think_v it_o extravagancy_n that_o we_o call_v the_o b._n virgin_v our_o savioress_n and_o redeemer_n and_o if_o he_o be_v impartial_a he_o must_v call_v the_o prophet_n david_n extravagant_a also_o when_o he_o say_v speak_v of_o the_o saint_n psal_n 81._o i_o have_v say_v you_o be_v god_n and_o the_o son_n of_o the_o high_a all_o and_o perhaps_o he_o will_v not_o stick_v to_o blame_v 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12_o 26._o if_o any_o will_v serve_v i_o my_o father_n will_v honour_v he_o much_o more_o ought_v they_o to_o be_v honour_v by_o us._n purgatory_n and_o indulgence_n mr_n shall_v rallye_n about_o the_o situation_n of_o purgatory_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o torment_n that_o there_o be_v suffer_v if_o cold_a heat_n rain_n or_o tempest_n &c_n &c_n all_o which_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o what_o be_v controvert_v betwixt_o protestant_n and_o catholic_n be_v not_o what_o place_n be_v purgatory_n in_o or_o what_o be_v the_o pain_n inflict_v there_o but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o thing_n as_o purgatory_n the_o protestant_n deny_v any_o three_o receptacle_n of_o soul_n depart_v but_o must_v go_v either_o to_o heaven_n or_o hell_n for_o where_o the_o tree_n fall_v there_o it_o remain_v the_o orthodox_n doctrine_n be_v that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n where_o soul_n depart_v with_o venial_a sin_n only_o or_o that_o after_o the_o remission_n of_o their_o mortal_a sin_n in_o 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