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A64459 The Testimony of the Hartford Quakers for the man Christ Jesus vindicated from the malicious slanders, perversions, confusions, impertinencies and idle quibling of William Haworth an independent-preacher ... : with a brief and serious reply by Mary Stout to what concerns her in Christianity re-established, which ... John Crook and William Bayly have discovered ... unto which the substance of this tract will serve for an appendix. Stout, Mary, 17th cent. Mary Stout's reply to William Haworth's answer. 1676 (1676) Wing T819; ESTC R32759 41,433 58

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