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A91721 The Racovian catechisme vvherein you have the substance of the confession of those churches, which in the kingdom of Poland, and great dukedome of Lithuania, and other provinces appertaining to that kingdom, do affirm, that no other save the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, is that one God of Israel, and that the man Jesus of Nazareth, who was born of the Virgin, and no other besides, or before him, is the onely begotten Sonne of God.; Racovian catechism. English. 1652. Smalcius, Valentin, 1572-1622.; Socinus, Faustus, 1539-1604. 1652 (1652) Wing R121; Thomason E1320_1; ESTC R200387 94,429 183

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Declare to me what proofes they alledge to evince that Christ created the heaven and the earth A. Even these where it is written That all things were made by him and without him nothing made that was made John 1. 3. And again That the world was made by him verse 10. And again That all things were created by him that are in heaven and that are in earth visible and invisible whether Thrones or Dominions or Principalities or Powers all things were created by him and for him Col. 1. 16. And that God by him made the world Heb. 1. 2. Finally likewise from that passage in the 10 11. and 12. verses of the same chapter namely Thou Lord in the beginning laidst the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands They shall perish but thou abidest and all shall wax old as a garment and as a vesture shalt thou change them and they shall be changed But thou Lord art the same and thy years shall not fail Q. What answer give you to the first testimony A. In the first testimony the words may be as well rendered all things were done by him as all things were made by him For the Greek word signifieth the one as well as the other although in English there is some difference between being made and being done inasmuch as the propriety of the language admitteth the one many times to be used where the other would not have place Again the Evangelist saith all things were done by him which kind of speaking denotetl not the first but the second cause In fine the word all is not here taken for all things simply and absolutely but is restrained to the subject matter which is a thing most frequent in the Holy Sriptures especially that of the New Covenant a singular example whereof you have 2 Cor. 5. 17. wherein it is treated of a matter altogether like to that which Iohn here speaketh of and it is said that all things are become new when notwithstanding it is certain that there are many things which have not been made new Wherefore since the subject matter in Iohn is the Gospell it appeareth that the word all ought to be understood of all those things which any wayes belong to the Gospel Q. Why did Iohn add that without him nothing was done that hath been done A. The better to illustrate those foregoing words namely all things were done by him which seem to have such force as if all those things had been done by the Word or Son of God onely though some things and those of great moment were not immediately done by him but by his Apostles of which sort is the calling of the Gentiles and the abolition of the legall Ceremonies For though these things had their beginning from the words and deeds of the Lord Jesus yet were they not brought to an issue by Christ himself but by his Apostles yet not without him for the Apostles mannaged all things in his name and by his authority as the Lord himself saith Iohn 15 7. Without me ye can do nothing Q. What say you to the second A. First Iohn doth not here say that the world was created but made by him Again he useth the same form of speech designing the second or middle cause for he saith not that he made the world but that the world was made by him Finally the word world as well as others that are equivalent in the Scriptures doth not only denote the heaven and earth but besides other significations designeth either manking as the present place sheweth where it is said That he was in the world and the world acknowledged him not or the world to come as appeareth from Hebr. 1. 6. where we read that when he bringeth the first-born into the world he saith And let all the Angells of God worship him which is taken of the world to come as appeareth from the second chapter of the same Epistle verse fifth where the Author saith For he hath not put the world to come whereof we speak in subjection to Angells But he no where spake of that world but in the sixth Verse of the former chapter Besides you have another place Hebr. 10. 5. where speaking of Christ he saith Wherefore entring into the world he saith sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not but a body thou hast fitted me Where since it is apparent that the Author speaketh of that world into which Christ being entred became a Priest and made his offering as all the circumstances of the place do shew it must needs be that he speaketh not of this world but of the world to come since in the eighth chapter vers 4. he had said of Christ That if he were on the earth he would not so much as be a Priest Q. What understand you by this expression The world was made by him A. A double sense thereof may be given first that mankind was reformed and as it were made again by Christ because he brought life and immortality to men who were lost and subject to eternall death which thing Iohn upbraideth the world with namely that being vindicated from destruction by Christ yet did it not acknowledge him but despise and reject him For it is the custome of the Hebrew speech that in such forms of speaking the words make and create be equivalent with make anew and create anew inasmuch as that tongue is destitute of compounded verbs The latter sense is that the world to come which we expect by Christ is by him made as to us as the same is said to be come in respect of us although it be already present to Christ and the Angells Q. What say you to the third A. That this testimony also speaketh of Christ as of a second and middle cause and the word Create as in the Scripture used not only of the Old but also of the New Creation an instance whereof you have Eph. 2. 10. For we are his workmanship or making as the Greek hath it created in Christ Jesus unto or rather upon condition of good works And a little after verse 15. For to make in himself of twain one new man in the Greek For to create in himself the twain into one new man Besides that those words all things in the heaven and on the earth are not used for all things simply and absolutely appeareth both by the article in the Greek set before the word all to limit it and also by the collation of the words put a little after in the 20. verse where the Apostle saith That by him God hath reconciled all the things that are both in the heavens and on the earth and finally by the inspection of the very words themselves wherein the Apostle saith not that the heaven and earth were created by Christ but all the things that are in the heavens and on the earth Q. How then understand you this testimony A. That after God had raised Christ from the dead and
held concerning any private offence whether against God or against others for so equity it self perswadeth and Christian Love altogether requireth Q. How are they publickly to be Corrected A. By words or deeds Q. How by words A. In such a manner as that they be publickly reproved by all in the Church of Christ of which thing Paul speaketh 1 Tim. 5. 20. and 2 Cor. 2. 6. Q. How by deeds A. When we either avoid their company or refuse to eat with them although we do not yet count him for an enemy but admonish him as a brother or when we cast him out of the Church of Christ and no longer acknowledge him for a brother Q. Where is it written concerning this matter A. Touching the first manner 1 Cor. 5. 11. 2 Thes 3. 6 10. Touching the latter 1 Cor. 5. 14 15. and Mat. 18. 17. Q. Why is such correction observed in the Church of Christ A. That the transgressour may be healed and reduced into the way and others may be stricken with fear and kept untainted and that scandall may be removed out of the Church of Christ and the Word of God not evill spoken of and finally neither his Name nor Glory be profaned Q. What danger is imminent over such men A. Even this that being cast out of the Church and consequently out of the Kingdom of Christ there remaineth nothing for them nothing but destruction since this Excommunication is no other then that binding whereof Christ speaketh Mat. 18. 18. Verily Verily I say unto you whatsoever ye shall bind upon earth shall be bound also in the Heavens and whatsoever ye shall loose upon earth shall be loosed also in the Heavens Q. What is the power of binding and loosing which the Church hath A. It is the declaring and denouncing according to the Word of God who is unworthy to be of the Church of Christ Q. VVhat is that manner of keeping order in the Church of Christ which chiefly concerneth them that govern A. They are bound not onely to observe those Offices which appertain to others more diligently then all the rest but also continually to excite others to the discharge of them respectively to oversee the Church to observe the carriage of every one to be instant in season and out of season to reprove rebuke with all long-suffering and doctrine as you have it 2 Tim. 4. 2. yet must these things be done with such caution as the Apostle sheweth fit to be used namely that they do not chide an Elder but admonish him as a Father a junior as a brother the elder women as mothers the younger as sisters with all chastity 1 Tim. 5 1 2. CHAP. IV. Of the Invisible Church of Christ Q. WHat is the Invisible Church A. Such as put their confidence in Christ and obey him and therefore are his Body Q. VVhy call you that society of men Invisible A. because It is not exposed to the sight of men who are not able to penetrate into the hearts and tell who sincerely believe or not But with the heart it is believed to righteousnesse Rom. 10. 10. and by Faith men are ingrafted into the Olive of the Church and made members of Christ Rom. 11. 19 20. Q. Can it not by outward actions be known who is a member of the Church A. By the outward actions may easily be known who is not a member of the Church of Christ for the Apostle saith that the works of the flesh are manifest Gal. 5. 19. and such men walk in the works of the flesh But it can hardly be known by the outward actions where true Faith is for outward actions proceeding from a corrupt heart may carry the same appearance with those that flow from a heart which is sincere In short he that is evill-minded may put on the outward garb of a good man but it is otherwise in a good man who never laboureth to put on the garb of an evill man Q. I now understand all the things that pertain to the knowledge of God and Christ declare further if any thing else pertaineth to the knowledge of this saving way A. I have already abundantly opened every thing to you It will be your part having well understood and considered them to imprint them in your mind and institute your life according to the prescript of them And the Lord God give you his assistance thereunto to whom in as much as he hath been pleased graciously to help us in bringing this Conference to an end be praise and glory through Jesus Christ for ever and ever Amen FINIS
believe it But it is evident that these Quotations do not demonstrate the Father Sonne and Holy Spirit to be three Persons in one Divine Essence Q. Yet from such a Conjunction of those three in divine Operations it seemeth somewhat probable that they are three Persons in one divine Essence A. By no means For as to the first place although the Father Son and Holy Spirit be conjoyned in Baptism yet doth it not therefore follow that they are Persons in one divine Essence both for that it is said in the words immediately going before that all power in heaven on earth was given to the Son which cannot possibly agree to him that is a Person in the divine Essence as also because it is no new thing for the Scripture in other things no lesse divine then Baptism to joyn with God such Persons and Things as no wayes pertain to the divine Essence Of Persons you have an example in the first book of Samuel chap. 12. 18. And all the people greatly feared the Lord and Samuel And in Moses Exod. 14. 31. where according to the Hebrew it is read And the people feared the Lord and believed in the Lord and in his servant Moses Of things you have an instance Acts 20. 32. I commend you to God and to the Word of his Grace Ephes 6. 10. Strengthen your selves in the Lord and in the power of his might Q. But they hold he must needs be God into whose name we are baptized A. They are exceedingly mistaken for we read 1 Cor. 10. 2. that the Israelites were all baptized into Moses And Act. 19. 3. that certain Disciples were baptized into the Baptisme of John Although neither Moses were God nor the Baptisme of John a Person much lesse God Q. But it seemeth one thing to be baptized into any ones name and another to be baptized into any one A. By no means For by vertue of the Hebrew Idiotisme it is oftentimes all one to do something into any ones name and into any one as is sufficiently known Neither need we go far for any instance since the matter in hand will readily furnish us for whereas we read in some places that Disciples were baptized into the name of Christ see Act. 8. 16. Act. 19. 5. we read in others that they were simply baptized into Christ Rom. 6. 3. Gal. 3. 27. Q. What answer give you to the second Quotation A. That although divine operations be attributed to God and to the Lord and to the Holy Spirit yet can it not be rightly inferred thence that these three are of one essence Yea the contrary may be thence clearly collected namely that they cannot be of one essence since the Lord and the Holy Spirit are openly distinguished from God whom we formerly proved to be no other then the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ But because together with God mention is here made of the Lord and of the Holy Spirit this is therefore done because the Lord is he by whom God doth work all these things with the concurrent ministery of the Holy Spirit for here he treateth only of those things that appertain unto the faithfull in whom the Holy Spirit worketh Q. What answer give you to the third A. First since it is known that in the more ancient Greek copies and in the Syriack and in the more antient Latin Versions these words are not extant as the chiefest of our Adversaries do shew nothing certain can be concluded from them Again though they were extant in the Scripture yet could it not be thence concluded that there are three Persons in one Divinity For that place speaketh of no other thing then of witnessing that Jesus is the Son of God or the Christ But that this may be attested not only by such as are divine persons but even by such as are no persons at all appeareth by the following words wherein the Apostle saith that there are three that bear witnesse on the earth the Spirit the Water and the Bloud Now when he saith that the former three are one that this is meant of their being one in testimony and agreement but not in essence is apparent by the following verse where the like expression is found and must be taken in such a sense Q. I perceive by your former discourse that there is but one Person in the divine essence and therefore I would now know how the knowledge hereof is very conducible to salvation A. You will easily perceive that if you consider how pernitious the opinion of the Adverse Party is For first that opinion may easily undermine and weaken the belief of one God whilest one while it confesseth but one God another while acknowledgeth three Persons every one whereof is that one God Secondly it obscureth the glory of that one God who is only the Father of Jesus Christ whilest it transferreth it to another who is not the Father Thirdly it may easily pervert the way of salvation whilest it taketh away the difference between the first and second cause thereof and suff●reth us not rightly to acknowledge who is the prime Author of our Salvation and how God manageth the same by Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit In sine it greatly hindreth Aliens from embracing the Christian Religion whilest it delivereth such things as are opposite to divine Truth and sound reason From all which inconveniences that opinion is free which holdeth that there is but one Person in the divine essence Of the Will of God Q. YOu have explained to me the things that pertain to the essence of God explain now those things also that concern his Will A. Those things that concern the Will of God are partly such as all men in generall are and ever have been partakers of them partly such as properly belong to those who are to obtaine eternall life Q. What are those whereof all men in generall have ever been partakers of A. They are three in number first the Creation of heaven and earth and all the things that are therein Act. 14. 15. Secondly his care and providence over all things in particular Mat. 10. 29. Lastly the remuneration of them that seek him that is yeeld themselves obedient to him Heb. 11. 6. Q. Why is it necessary to believe that God created heaven and earth A. There are two principall causes thereof The one that God would have us believe it And therefore in the Scriptures both God and his Ministers do so frequently and clearly admonish us thereof as amongst other testimonies you have it in Isaiah chap. 44. 24. I am the Lord that maketh all things that stretcheth out the heavens alone that spreadeth abroad the earth by my self And in Moses Gen. 1. 1. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth And in David Psal 33. 6. By the word of the Lord were the heavens made and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth He gathereth the waters of the Sea together as