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A14450 A learned and excellent treatise containing all the principall grounds of Christian religion Set downe by way of conference in a most plaine and familiar manner. Written first in French by maister Mathew Virell, after translated into Latine: and now turned into English for the vse of our country-men.; Religion chrestienne declarée par dialogue. English Virel, Matthieu.; Egerton, Stephen, 1555?-1621? 1594 (1594) STC 24768; ESTC S119631 209,162 292

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then he spake to Peter onely But as a little before Peter not onely in his own name but also in the name of all the rest of the Apostles which had that one faith had confessed that Iesus was the Christ and the sonne of the liuing God in like manner when Christ promised the keyes to Peter hee meant that they were also promised to the rest of the Apostles which hee doth sufficiently declare in the deliuerie of thē for he saith to all at once Receiue the holy Ghost Whose sins you remit they be remitted to thē whose sinnes you retaine they be retained I same also did the other Apostles and all Pastors confirme when exercising their ministerie they vsed those keyes Theoph. Wherefore doth Christ call the ministerie of Pastors by the name of keyes Matth. To the end we might vnderstand that the kingdome of heauē as we haue declared before is by the ministery of the Church set open to the beleeuers and penitent and that it is shut against the vnbeleeuers and stubburne namely when as by it the former haue their sinnes forgiuen that so they may come to eternall life but to the other they be retained that so they may be shut from it For God doth ratifie that in heauē which the Ministers vpon earth pronounce out of his word euē as it appeareth by the words of Christ himselfe vnto Peter for after promise of the keyes presently hee addeth Whatsoeuer thou shalt bind in Mat. 16. 19 earth shal be bound in heauen and whatsoeuer thou shalt loose on earth shal be loosed in heauen And the selfe same thing he repeated after to all the Apostles to shew that they had like authoritie of binding loosing giuen to them with Peter Theoph. Therfore to bind loose is nothing else but to declare the remission of sinnes or to retaine them Matth. What it is to bind and loose Indeede nothing as it is plaine by the interpretation of Christ himselfe for he sayd to his Apostles in the place which euen now we recited Receiue the holy Ghost whose sinnes yee remit they be remitted vnto them whose sinnes you shall retaine they shall be retained For there is no harder bond then sinne forasmuch as being bound with it we be held and indeed willingly vnder the power and tyrannie of the deuill death and it cannot be loosed by any strength of man but by the onely might of Christ Theoph. Why then doth Christ commit the office of binding and loosing to the ministers seeing he himself alone hath the power of binding and loosing Mat. It is that we may vnderstād that the Ministers be as it were Ambassadors proclaimers of the will of God which Paule teacheth in these words 1. Cor. 5. 19 God was in Christ reconciling the world to himselfe not imputing to them their sinnes and hath put in vs this word of reconciliatiō Therefore we are ambassadors in the name of Christ as God by vs did exhort you we entreat you in Christes stead to be reconciled to God Theoph. I see not therefore that the Ministers haue more power of binding and loosing granted them then any other priuate man For there is none that may not assure the beleeuer and penitent of the forgiuenesse of his sinnes contrariwise which may not set the iudgement of God before the vnbeleeuer and obstinate except he repēt And that verily shal be confirmed in heauen as it was pronounced by that priuate person for that is the will of God reuealed in his word Mat. Of the authoritie of the Ministers of the Church That is right indeed but there is some speciall thing to be considered in the promise of Christ made to the Ministers namely that by his spirite he will giue more efficacie force to their words thē to the words of any priuate man so as they shall by faith be receiued of the beleeuer but shall terrifie the conscience of the vnbeleeuer set before his eyes the wrath iudgement of God For otherwise the name of the keyes of the kingdome of heauen should falsely be giuen vnto the ministery of the Church seeing that we may enter into it it is not inough that the doctrine of forgiuenesse of sins beat our eares but especially that it enter into our hearts and be receiued of vs by faith obedience Whereunto is referred that saying of Paul Neither my 1. Cor. 2. 4. speech nor my preaching stood in the entising wordes of mans wisedome but in the demonstration or euidence of spirituall power For this cause also Isaiah calleth the preaching of the word the arme of the Lord Isay 53. that is the instrument by the which he declareth his might and power that he may bring vs to saluation Theoph. I do see indeede that the force and fruite of preaching the word of God is very great For those three steps by the which wee obtaine spirituall health wherof thou diddest entreate in the Chapter of Faith are by it daily called to vse and practise Matth. Thou iudgest right For first the law is preached that wee may acknowledge our deadly disease namely sinne Secondly the Gospell is preached wherin the sauing remedie is offered vnto vs in Christ Last of all faith which is wrought in vs and increased by the preaching of the word applieth that medicine vnto vs so as we obtaine saluation euen the full forgiuenesse of all our sinnes Theoph. The article of remissiō of sins in the Creede vnlesse I be deceiued is therefore set after the article of the Church to the end we might know that it is offered vnto vs by the ministerie of it Mat. It is indeede and therefore there is no forgiuenesse of sins neither saluation without the Church as in the floud there was no safetie out of the Arke of Noah wherein also at that time the Church of God was then shut vp ●hat being as it were a type of it Theoph. Thou hast hitherto largely inough taught that by the ministery of the word we do truely obtaine forgiuenesse of our sinnes Notwithstanding there be two things behind whereof I will aske thee before we come to the other treatise 1 First whether God do wholy as they say forgiue to the repentant all their sinnes 2 Secondly whether hee forgiue them perfectly namely remitteth the punishment and the fault so as they be not any more imputed vnto vs. Mat. Let vs speake of the former in the first place Iohn saith 1. Iohn 1. 7. All sinnes be forgiuen to the penitent that the bloud of Christ doth wash vs from all sinne He that saith all excepteth nothing Now repentance yeeldeth vnto vs a more certaine testimonie of our faith by the which as hath beene sayd wee be made partakers of Christ and of his gifts Whereupon it followeth that whosoeuer repenteth may most certainly determine that all his sinnes notwithstanding they be grieuous are forgiuen and done away Which also is taught by the examples
the likenesse it hath with earthly kingdomes Theoph. Of the kingdome of God Wherein standeth that likenesse Mat. In foure heads or principall pointes namelie because in the Church there be 1 One king 2 Subiects 3 Lawes 4 Gouernors who as in earthly kingdomes haue the charge to see to the keeping of those lawes For in the Church there is one king namelie Iesus Christ which of his father is appointed the Lord in it to rule and gouern it which is confirmed by the words of the Angell to Marie The Lord God will giue vnto him the Luc. 1. 32. seat of his father Dauid he shal reign ouer the house of Iacob for euer there shal be none end of his kingdome Therfore the kingdome of God the kingdome of Christ is one and the selfe same The faithfull be the people of this kingdome whom Christ hath redeemed with his death set free frō the tyranny of the deuill that hee might deliuer them vp to his own kingdome to become his subiects The lawes of it are the word of God wherein all things be commanded and declared that appertaine both to the humble seruice and obedience of that King and to the concord of the Citizens or subiects The officers which are specially occupied about this kingdome are the ministers of the word or pastors vpon whom this charge is laide that they preach the word and see to the keeping of those lawes Who also as the Apostle speaketh 2. Cor. 10. 6. haue in readinesse vengeance against all disobedience Theoph. I haue heard the agreement of the kingdom of God with the kingdome of men but I desire to vnderstand the difference betweene them Matth. 1 First all things in the kingdome of God are spirituall namely the King himselfe his glory power subiects lawes reward punishments of the rebels Hereupon Christ saide vnto Pilate My kingdome Ioh. 18. 36. is not of this world 2 Secondly Christ requireth no such thing of his subiects as earthlie Kings are wont to aske but contrariwise doth continually enrich them with his owne gifts and spirituall riches 3 Thirdly he maketh them all partakers of his kingly dignitie which earthly kings cannot do 4 Fourthly he doth not only command as other kings do but giueth vs his owne spirite which putteth power into vs whereby we are made able to yeeld our hūble dutiful obedience vnto his commandements Finally all other kingdomes be subiect vnto alteration and change but this kingdome is inuincible and shall endure vntill the last comming of Christ Such is the kingdome of God and of Christ which indeede as hath bene said is not to be referred but to the rule which he exercise ouer his beloued children and those that be receiued into the Church Theoph. Who therefore hath the rule ouer the vnbeleeuers and wicked Matth. The Deuill and for that cause he is called the Prince of this world The kingdome of Sathan yet notwithstanding the Lord hath the chief power both ouer the vnbeleuers and ouer their Captaine which by his just iudgement hath made them subiects to that vnbeleeuing tyrant to the end they may bee vexed and tormented of him according to their deserts for as much as they haue refused to obey Christ that is a most louing and mercifull king Moreouer that kingdome of Sathan hath immortall hatred against the kingdome of Christ the head I say of that kingdome namely Sathan and his souldiers whom he stirreth vp to make outward war against the kingdome of Christ while he in the meane time assaulteth it within For both of them labour and striue with all their might to spoile and sacke that kingdome of Christ But they do it in vaine for how much the more furiously they seeke to ouerthrow it so much the more do they helpe it forward at length pull vpon themselues extreme destruction Theoph. We haue beene long inough in the exposition of the kingdome of God let vs go forward to the other member What meaneth that word Let it come or let it approch Matt. How the kingdome of God cōmeth The office of a good king standeth in two speciall things 1 First to rule his subiects namely such as yeeld him fidelitie and obedience to keepe in peace defend handle mercifully and louingly and redeeme them if they be taken captiues 2 Secondly to punish the rebels and to destroy throw down the enemies of his kingdom When therfore wee desire of God that his kingdome may come we do as if we prayed that he would encrease the nūber of beleeuers enlarge his Church euerie day more and more heape vppon it his giftes and settle it with right order And contrariwise that he would cut off all the enemies of it ouerthrow their counsels destroy their purposes that the defēding of the Church may beeuery day encreased til at lēgth it come to the highest perfection Howbeit that shal not be before the day of iudgement at what time al his enemies being ouercome he shal make them his foote stoole And then as the Apostle saith hee shall deliuer vp the kingdome to God the father that is he shall reigne quietly without 1. Cor. 15. 24. any rebelliō and resistance we shal liue peaceably in him being deliuered frō al feare trouble of enemies The third petition Thy will be done in earth as it is in heauen Theoph. Let vs come to the third petition being the last of them that respect the glorie of God Matth. It is this Thy will bee done in earth as it is in heauen Wherein indeede wee do not simply desire of God that his will may be done the fulfilling whereof there is verely nothing that can let but that he will so guide vs with his spirite that we may be ready to do his will reuealed vnto vs in his word and that with no lesse desire then the heauenly Angels do But concerning his secret will we desire that if when it is done any aduersities befall vs namelie losse of goods hinderance afflictions whether they concerne the soule or the bodie we may beare them all patiently as sent frō his hand and so obey his will that ours may whollie and altogether giue place vnto it Theoph. Indeed he were happie that after this manner should conforme himselfe to the will of God Mat. Yea surely because he might worthily glorie in this that God did nothing but that which hee willed seeing that he willed no other thing but that which was acceptable and pleasing vnto God And assuredlie there be many things that call vs vnto that For if God our heauenly Father be wiser then we which all men do confesse it is not to bee doubted but hee knoweth what we haue neede of better then our selues and that therefore by good right wee ought to preferre his holy and good will before our owne which is wicked and corrupt yea rather often like vnto children wee know not what we would haue For many
the infinite maruellous wisedome of God which by a way altogether wonderfull hath knit or ioyned together his perfect iustice with his perfect mercy and that as well to his owne glory as to our saluation and benefite Mat. True indeed But if thou do with a litle more diligence marke that way thou shalt find three things which the reason of man could neuer haue deuised and which out of Christ are found no where else for the auoyding of the punishment due for our sinnes and they be these That we should our selues pay our debts vnto God or else seeke another which is both able to pay them and also doth acquite vs of them or that God himselfe should forgiue vs whatsoeuer we be indebted vnto him Theoph. I would haue these things declared by thee a little more largely Matth. First therefore I will shew that these three cannot any where be found sauing in Christ And verily whatsoeuer men can imagine they shall neuer find in themselues wherewith to satisfie God Who also as the Apostle saith Rom. 11. 32 hath shut all vnder sinne that he might haue mercy vpon all Neither shall they find any creature in heauen or in earth sufficient to doe this office But if they flie vnto God his mercy to obtaine forgiuenesse of their sinnes his perfect iustice will be a let which requireth to be fully satisfied Theoph. Let vs now see how God hath ioyned these three things together in Christ to reconcile his exceeding great mercy with his most perfect righteousnesse vnto our saluation Matth. Being made one with Christ by faith and therefore also partakers of his goods wee our selues pay all our debtes vnto God and that of the riches of Christ which are truely made ours And by this meanes the perfect iustice of God is fully satisfied which indeed requireth this that he which oweth the debt should pay it Neuerthelesse another hath payd it for vs namely Christ who alone hath drunke vp the cup of God his wrath and as the Apostle saith hath 1. Pet. 2. 24 borne our sinnes in his body vpon the tree And therein most manifestly appeareth the great mercy of God that gaue his most dearely beloued Sonne for vs his enemies vnto a most shamefull death Finnally because he that hath satisfied the heauenly Father for vs is his dearely beloued Sonne euerlasting God with the Father freely giuen vnto vs the continuall forgiuenesse of sinnes as hath bin sayd is ioyned with his satisfaction and that doth especially make stedfast and sure his immeasurable mercy Theoph. Verily a notable discourse and very full of comfort Let vs now returne to the exposition of our petition Why is this clause added in the end as we forgiue them that trespasse against vs Matth. That is according to the promise made vs of the forgiuenesse of our sins vpō this condition that we forgiue them that hurt vs. And Christ would haue it expresly mentioned because he knew how hardly we forgiue others their trespasses Therefore in this clause he calleth vs to remember that wee shall not obtaine forgiuenesse of our sinnes at the hands of God except we also forgiue our neighbours their offences Hereupon is that threatning of God by the Prophet against the Israelites When you shall stretch out your hands Isay 1. 15. I will hide mine eyes from you although you make many prayers I will not heare you for your hands are full of bloud Theoph. Therefore this manner of speech doth not appoint an equalitie as if God forgaue vs so much as we shall forgiue Mat. No not so For our forgiuenesse euen as we our selues be imperfect is alwayes imperfect and sauoureth of the vncleannesse of our flesh whereupon it commeth to passe that euen in them that are most regenerated notwithstanding they doe vnfainedly forgiue as God requireth and desire no reuenge yea rather be ready to do good vnto such as haue hurt them and do daily pray for them yet there remaineth some bitternesse so as we do not embrace them with that affection of heart which we would haue embraced them with if we had alwayes beene well pleased with them which if God should do we were in very ill case Therefore this is the meaning of this petition ô Lord according to thy promise forgiue vs our sinnes fully and perfectly as the most perfect God For as much as we as most imperfect men according to thy commandement haue bene fauorable vnto them that haue hurt vs. Theoph. In what place are this commandement and promise Matth. They be presently added by Christ after this prayer in these wordes If you forgiue men their offences Mat. 6. 14. your heauenly Father will also forgiue you But if you shall not forgiue men their offences neither will your Father forgiue you your offences Theoph. I grant it is very right that we should doe those things to our neighbours which we desire to be done to ourselues And so that God doth most worthily denie them forgiuenesse that will not forgiue their neighbours Matth. True especially seeing our sinnes against God whereof we craue pardon are farre more grieuous and farre more in number then are they which our neighbours can euer commit against vs. And this doth Christ plainly teach in an excellent parable whē he saith Mat. 18. 23 The kingdome of heauen is like vnto a king which would demand an account of his seruants And when he began to recken there was one brought vnto him which ought ten thousand Talents And when he was not able to pay it his Lord commanded him to be sold and his wife and children and all he had and the debt to be payd The seruant therefore fell downe and besought him saying Master appease thine anger towardes me and I will pay thee all Then that seruants master had compassion vpon him and loosed him and forgaue him the debt but when the seruant was departed hee found one of his followes that ought him an hundreth pence and he layd hands vpon him tooke him by the throat saying pay me that thou owest Thē his fellow fell downe at his feete and besought him saying appease thine anger towards me and I will pay thee all yet he would not but went cast him into prison till he should paie the debt And when his other fellowes saw what was done they were verie sory and came and declared vnto their maister all that was done Then his maister called him and said vnto him O euill seruant I forgaue thee all that debt because thou prayedst me oughtest not thou also to haue had pitie vppon thy fellow euen as I had pitie on thee So his maister was wroth and deliuered him vnto the Iaylers till hee should pay all that was due vnto him So likewise saieth Christ shall mine heauenly Father do vnto you except ye forgiue from your hearts each one to their brother their trespasses The sixt petition And leade vs not into temptation but deliuer vs
that it was permitted to the Israelites for the hardnesse of their hearts that is to say as wel for their rudenesse as for their infirmitie Notwithstanding he sheweth That for the time to come it was not lawfull but for fornication Theoph. But it may be obiected that it is so farre of that the fathers of the Israelites church are excelled by vs in holinesse and sanctimonie of life that contrariwise there bee not a few of them found which did a great deale go beyond vs such as were Moses Elias Daniel c. Mat. When wee speake of the difference betweene the church of the Israelites and ours wee must not alledge some speciall gifts graunted to some speciall mē but it must be considered what was the whole body of that Church for therein standeth the difference Theoph. Declare the third difference Math. It is herein that euerlasting life was obscurely and darkely offered to the Israelites wrapped or folded vp in earthly promises For they were children as Paule speaketh whose age farre more esteemeth some smal things then those that be of the best value But now after we be come to age and are taught the Gospell by meanes whereof the benefite of eternall life is much more plainly made knowen vnto vs wee are in the verie right way ledde to the hope and meditation of it neither do wee stay in these earthly and fraile things And this was the cause why the Fathers vnder the Law esteemed this life more then we ought to esteeme it Theoph. Now remaineth the last difference Math. It is that whereof by the waie we made mention namely that the church vnder the law was as it were bounded with the borders of Iudea or shut vp within that countrey But now it is scattered throughout the whole world neither is it tied to any place Mat. 10. 5. For this cause Christ when he sent forth his disciples to preach the Gospell before his death in plaine wordes forbad them to go to the Gentiles but to the lost sheepe of the house of Israell But after his resurrection when hee had put an end to the ceremonies of the law hee biddeth his Apostles going into all the Mar. 16. 16 world to preach the Gospell to euerie creature Behold what the differences be between the old and our Church Now these haue beene the cause that the bookes of the Bible which respect the state of the Church before Christ was borne had the name of the old Testament and those which were written after his resurrection are called the new Testament or the new couenant yet not that there be two couenants or two Testaments betwixt God and his Church for there is onely one which is diuersely considered Theoph. Let vs goe forward to the rest What is the reason that wee say I beleeue the Church and not I see the Church Mat. Although particular Churches be seen of vs yet because here is intreated of the vniuersall church which we cannot behold with the eyes of the bodie therefore wee doe not saie I see but I beleeue the Church I adde moreouer that the Church properly is no other but that companie of the elect For the hypocrites and reprobats which are mingled with the particular Churches are not members of the vniuersall Church I do annex furthermore for a larger declaration of these two arguments First 1 That it falleth out not seldome that by the persecutions of the enemies the Church is so scattered that it seemeth almost to be cleane put out Howbeit it is not so but onely for a time it is remoued from our fight euen as the wheat lieth hidden vnder the chaffe Which indeed came to passe in the dayes of Elias for 1. Reg. 19. 10. the Prophet complained that he aloue was left For he thought that all the people were fallen away from true Religion Notwithstanding the Lord answered There be remaining vnto me seuen thousand which haue not bowed their knee before Baal Therefore when the Church is hidden either in the whole or in the partes yet ought we not thereupon to ceasse to beleeue that it is For the Lord said by the Prophet that Israels seed Ier. 31. 36. should not faile as long as Sunne and Moone should bee in the heauens The same thing doth Christ confirme Mat. 16. 18. whē he saith that it shall neuer be that the gates of hell shall ouercome the Church that is to say that neither the Deuill nor his Angels shall euer bee able to bring to passe the finall or vtter destruction of the Church howsoeuer God sometimes so giue them the bridle that is to say such libertie that they bring vpon it great calamitie The Church therefore may most fitly be compared to that bush which Moses heretofore saw in the wildernesse Exod. 3. 2. which burnt in the fire and yet was not consumed Theoph. Howe doth the speech of the gates of Hell whereof Christ maketh mention agree with the practises deceipts and counsels of the deuill Mat. It is a similitude or likenesse taken from common wealths in the which in former times iudgement was vsed at the gates of their Citties where also the store of Armour munition for warre was kept Hereupon Iudg. 5. 8. it grew that cōmonly in ancient times the gates were taken for strength and counsell Theoph. Bring forth the other argument by the which thou mayst proue that the Catholike Church is to be beleeued Mat. It is drawne from this that although in it there haue alwayes bin manie elect seeing the word of God is neuer preached in vaine yet neuer the lesse all they that ioyne them selues to particular churches do not straight way belong to the vniuersall church that is to say are not by and by of the number of the faithfull and chosen For as saith Austen Hom. 45. vpon Iohn there bee many sheepe without the sheepfold of Christ which God in his time will call so there be many wolues in the verie Church whose hypocrisie the Lord in their time will discouer Therefore God onely knoweth who be his to vse the wordes of the Apostle And this is the cause why making 2. Tim. 2. mention of the inuisible Church I comprehēded vnder it the elect of God still liuing in the earth Theoph. But are the elect them selues being called of God and ioyned to the particular churches vncertaine of their saluation Mat. No not so For each of them may know their owne faith by the feeling put into them by the holie Ghost and anothers faith they cannot The word of beleeuing containeth all these things For it is as if thou saydest I beleeue that there is a certaine companie of the faithfull and elect in the Church which God defendeth in this world of whose number I certainely know that I am In the meane time Christian charitie requireth this that we iudge well of all those that haue ioyned thēselues to particular churches so long as they shew themselues