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prayer_n shall_v be_v interpret_n the_o church_n prayer_n or_o dare_v he_o affirm_v that_o the_o pastor_n interpret_v their_o prayer_n as_o they_o be_v read_v 2._o do_v the_o apostle_n require_v that_o only_o some_o part_n of_o the_o prayer_n shall_v be_v interpret_v be_v there_o not_o equal_a reason_n for_o the_o whole_a especial_o when_o he_o add_v let_v all_o be_v do_v for_o edification_n 3._o be_v this_o do_v frequent_o yet_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o apostle_n precept_n will_v be_v neglect_v though_o more_o rare_o his_o 2_o ans_fw-fr i_o shall_v confute_v in_o consideration_n of_o the_o 16._o v._o it_o follow_v sect._n 23_o for_o if_o i_o pray_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n my_o spirit_n pray_v that_o be_v 14._o v._o 14._o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o i_o thus_o chrysostome_n theodoret_n photius_n i_o know_v the_o rhemist_n by_o spirit_n understand_v affection_n and_o make_v the_o sense_n run_v thus_o in_o this_o case_n my_o heart_n and_o affection_n 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it_o be_v very_o evident_a that_o the_o whole_a people_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o apostle_n yea_o supra_fw-la see_v du_n plessis_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la a_o great_a while_n after_o their_o martyrdom_n as_o justine_n martyr_n clom_n alexand_n and_o other_o do_v inform_v we_o do_v sound_v forth_o amen_n with_o the_o great_a vigour_n well_o then_o it_o be_v a_o hebrew_a idiotism_n and_o signify_v no_o more_o than_o he_o that_o be_v a_o idiot_n for_o as_o moses_n egypt_n inform_v i_o 〈◊〉_d more_o nevoc_n part_n 1._o c._n 8._o and_o bux_n lex_fw-la talm._n p._n 2001._o voce_fw-mi 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o hebrew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v extend_v to_o note_n estimationem_fw-la hominis_fw-la in_o certâ_fw-la quapiam_fw-la re_fw-la and_o they_o use_v to_o say_v n_z est_fw-la in_o tali_fw-la loco_fw-la in_fw-la hac_fw-la vel_fw-la illâ_fw-la re_fw-la and_o such_o a_o one_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v patrissare_n so_o here_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o be_v a_o idiot_n and_o thus_o the_o father_n general_o interpret_v it_o chrysostome_n and_o oecumenius_n indoctum_fw-la and_o plebium_fw-la jerome_n and_o theodoret_n laicum_fw-la ambrose_n imperitum_fw-la sedulius_n anselme_n haymo_n and_o thomas_n aquinas_n propriam_fw-la linguam_fw-la tantum_fw-la modò_fw-la scientem_fw-la all_o in_o locum_fw-la well_o then_o this_o idiot_n be_v he_o that_o understand_v not_o the_o learned_a tongue_n and_o the_o congregation_n be_v divide_v into_o two_o part_n see_v act_n 4.13_o the_o literate_a and_o the_o unlearned_a and_o prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n be_v here_o prohibit_v because_o the_o unlearned_a part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o able_a to_o say_v amen_o unto_o they_o and_o the_o reason_n give_v because_o they_o understand_v not_o what_o be_v say_v by_o he_o that_o pray_v in_o such_o a_o tongue_n whence_o we_o infer_v first_o that_o it_o
to_o your_o precept_n and_o in_o the_o feast_n of_o saint_n peter_n and_o paul_n to_o saint_n peter_n they_o pray_v much_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n and_o yet_o the_o scripture_n put_v the_o question_n who_o can_v forgive_v sin_n but_o god_n mar._n 2.7_o second_o they_o pray_v to_o they_o for_o grace_n and_o glory_n 56._o glory_n ps_n 56._o lady_n in_o thy_o name_n let_v i_o be_v safe_a and_o free_v i_o from_o my_o unrighteousness_n have_v mercy_n upon_o i_o and_o cleanse_v i_o from_o all_o my_o iniquity_n and_o again_o 50._o again_o ps_n 27._o &_o 50._o dissolve_v the_o bond_n of_o my_o iniquity_n take_v away_o the_o bundle_n of_o our_o sin_n purge_v my_o soul_n from_o its_o filth_n 87._o filth_n ps_n 3._o &_o 87._o by_o thy_o holiness_n be_v my_o sin_n purge_v 44._o purge_v ps_n 44._o thou_o be_v the_o beginning_n and_o end_n of_o my_o whole_a salvation_n totius_fw-la salutis_fw-la meae_fw-la etc._n etc._n 41._o etc._n ps_n 41._o 136._o 41._o ps_n 136._o by_o she_o be_v sin_n purge_v by_o she_o be_v make_v true_a satisfaction_n for_o sin_n etc._n etc._n whereas_o it_o be_v god_n propriety_n to_o be_v the_o god_n of_o all_o grace_n three_o they_o pray_v for_o these_o thing_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o saint_n thus_o the_o roman_a breviary_n by_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n franciscus_n 2._o april_n 2._o let_v we_o enjoy_v our_o promise_a reward_n and_o grant_v that_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n peter_n and_o saint_n paul_n we_o may_v attain_v to_o eternal_a glory_n 6._o july_n 6._o that_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n nicholaus_fw-la the_o church_n may_v enjoy_v perpetual_a peace_n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o merit_n of_o saint_n basil_n 10._o sept._n 10._o let_v we_o be_v absolve_v from_o allour_n sin_n and_o to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n 14._o jan._n 14._o by_o thou_o let_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n be_v avert_v from_o i_o appease_v he_o by_o thy_o merit_n and_o again_o by_o the_o blood_n which_o saint_n thomas_n shed_v for_o thou_o 72._o ps_n 72._o make_v we_o to_o ascend_v that_o heaven_n whither_o thomas_n be_v ascend_v and_o this_o be_v consonant_a to_o that_o of_o bellarmine_n becket_n prec_n ad_fw-la usum_fw-la sacrum_n in_o fest_n th._n becket_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n even_o for_o salvatian_n and_o other_o spiritual_a blessing_n if_o so_o be_v we_o understand_v it_o thus_o that_o they_o shall_v impetrate_v they_o by_o their_o merit_n now_o if_o this_o be_v not_o derogatory_n to_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n to_o have_v veram_fw-la satisfactionem_fw-la de'peccatis_fw-la to_o have_v grace_n and_o glory_n purchase_v by_o the_o blood_n and_o merit_n of_o other_o let_v any_o unreasonable_a man_n judge_n section_n four_o and_o 5_o sect._n 3_o our_o author_n afford_v we_o some_o consideration_n from_o which_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v infer_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o practice_n and_o first_o say_v he_o we_o may_v beg_v prayer_n from_o one_o another_o as_o saint_n paul_n himself_o do_v from_o the_o ephesian_n and_o other_o c._n 6.19_o c._n 2._o thes_n 3.1.4_o col._n 3._o where_o he_o bid_v the_o brethren_n pray_v for_o he_o answer_v very_o good_a but_o yet_o we_o dare_v not_o beg_v from_o these_o our_o brethren_n grace_n glory_n pardon_v of_o sin_n nor_o say_v with_o the_o roman_a breviary_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n we_o fly_v unto_o thou_o o_o virgin_n mary_n for_o thy_o defence_n and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o be_v conscious_a of_o our_o great_a offence_n we_o fear_v the_o wrath_n of_o a_o severe_a judge_n who_o we_o dare_v not_o see_v we_o fly_v unto_o thou_o his_o mother_n that_o thou_o will_v intercede_v for_o we_o unto_o god_n excuse_v our_o sin_n and_o obtain_v for_o its_o the_o grace_n of_o thy_o omnipotent_a son_n procure_v we_o the_o pardon_n of_o what_o ever_o we_o have_v commit_v second_o he_o tell_v we_o such_o beg_n of_o prayer_n be_v far_o from_o idolatry_n or_o diminution_n to_o christ_n since_o 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