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A92933 A Serious answer to a late book stiled, A reply to Mr. Robert Steed's epistle concerning singing wherein the chief scriptures and arguments are examined, and the weakness thereof shewed : together with an answer to the several reflections, and false charges, against both churches and persons, recommended to the elders, ministers, and members of baptized churches. Kiffin, William, 1616-1701.; Steed, Robert, of Dartmouth.; Barrett, George.; E. M. (Edward Man) 1692 (1692) Wing S2607; ESTC R42860 36,728 64

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of what he hath commanded Mat. 28.19 2. In the great gospel-Gospel-Duties of Prayer and Praising God he hath graciously promised the assistance of the Holy Spirit both what to pray for as well as how we are to pray Rom. 8.26 For we know not what to pray for as we ought but the Spirit it self maketh Intercession for us Where we observe that which respects the manner and frame of Heart in Prayer respects also the matter of Prayer Indeed we are poor Worms and know not how to order our Cause before him unless we are assisted both in Matter in the time of Worship as well as Manner And as it is in Prayer so is it in Praises which Duty ought certainly to be as spiritually performed as Prayer and we need as great assistance of the Holy Spirit to Praise as to Pray But if Gospel-singing the Praise of God be with a Musical Voice and the Form before composed in Verse then we know what to praise God for The Minister or some one brings that Matter composed in writing or in print in his Pocket and then what need will there be of the Spirit of God to help us what to pray for 3. But if it be objected that we ought before-hand to consider the Mercies we have received We readily grant it and do affirm that also in Prayer we ought to consider our Wants to beg Supplies and our Sins to beg Pardon But also in presenting them before the Lord we need the Assistance of the Spirit to order our very Requests before him And that it 's the Experience of every Servant of God that in Prayer to God and in Praises of God their Hearts are inlarged in matter far beyond the Preparations of matter in either of those Holy Exercises This is one of the most pregnant Arguments used against stinted Forms of Prayer by those Ministers that so do even that it is a stinting the Spirit of God in that Duty as also contrary to the blessed Design of the Lord Christ in his Ascension mentioned Eph. 4.8 And therefore we cannot see but it must necessarily follow but that if a set-Form of Praises composed and brought into the Church in the publick Worship of God is lawful or as an Institution appointed by him then certainly a set-Form of Prayer ought to be provided also as a part of the publick Worship of God for the Peoples Prayers And tertainly would they but seriously consider their own Arguments that perswade them to be against set-form Prayer the same would consute their Notions against set-form Singing if indeed they be against set-form Prayer For they that can so vehemently plead in that Book for reading Songs of Praise and for reading Sermons and call it Preaching in the Church why should they not be for reading Prayers there also especially when their Arguments for both are for the most part the very same that others urge for set-form Prayer As for what they most impertinently alledg for their Vindication in this Matter from the Song of Moses and the Hymn mentioned Mat. 26.30 with Col. 3.16 they will be considered in their due place Secondly We shall enquire whether for a mixed Multitude Professors and Prosane Believers and Unbelievers to sing in Consort in the Church be an Ordinance of our Lord Jesus according to his New-Testament-Institution 1. We desire it may be seriously considered that there is not the least mention of it in the New Testament by any Precept or Example wherein we are directed in the Worship of God Certainly if our Lord Jesus was most faithful in the House of God and if his Apostles did faithfully declare the whole Counsel of God to the Churches then they would not have failed to have declared this also So that it is purely a Humane Invention without any shadow of ground for it in the Scriptures before mentioned which are the only Rule to guide us in the solemn instituted Worship of God in his Church If this Arguments hold good against the common Practice of Infants Sprinkling called Baptism as undoubtedly it doth then it doth also as evidently prove that this way of common Singing is a Tradition of Men and not an Ordinance of our Lord Jesus 2. As there is not the least mention of it as aforesaid so it is directly contrary to what our Lord Jesus hath plainly declared both as to the Qualification of the Worshippers as well as to the manner of Worship in Gospel-Times Joh. 4.23 The true Worshippers shall worship the Father in Spirit and i● Truth c. Can the Unbelievers the Ignorant and the Profane thus worship the Father are they thus qualified or are they capable so to do So that this Practice of theirs is a plain Contradiction to the Will of our Lord and Law-giver in that Affair of Solemn Worship which therefore ought to be rejected by all the upright in Heart 3. Hereby there is an Opportunity given them to make or to speak a Lie before the Lord to take his Name in vain while they speak that which they do not understand and utter that as the frame of their Hearts which they do not receive in their Minds nor can they know them or truly affect them while they remain in an unconverted Estate because they are spiritually discerned Now to be accessary unto or to promote such a Transgression in the solemn Worship of God which they unavoidably do who set up this common way of Singing is a Practice that cannot be justified There is more to be added to shew the great Irregularity of this common Practice which must be referred to its proper place Object But they object That we admit them to be present and to join with their Hearts in our publick Prayers which is as much or more than lifting up their Voices in singing in the Church Answ To which we reply That it is true we do admit them at the time of Prayer and Preaching to be present and so we can and do to the Spectators and Hearers when we partake of the Lord's Supper not knowing by what means the Lord may work upon them or give them Repentance unto Life But that which is affirmed that they join with us with their Hearts in Prayer is no true Assertion They do not so join with us because they cannot For the Holy Spirit who knows the Hearts of all Men plainly tells us that Persons while Unbelievers and Unconverted cannot so do as is most evident from that Scripture Rom. 10.14 How can they call on him on whom they have not believed Object But they say Some have been converted by their Singing for Psalms are full of Instruction c. Answ 1. We grant that Psalms are full of Admonition and Instruction but we deny that the Musical Tunes do instruct but the Matter it self that is sung And if it be Matter it self that doth only instruct as you would seem to acknowledg then it is not Musick but the Matter 2. Tho some should be
on this Subject he being very dextrous to take Gold or Dross out of other Mens Writings and present them as his own Neither have they any more specious Pillars to uphold this common way of Singing than those that are pleaded for in this Treatise of theirs which we have now answered But Lastly We do much wonder that Mr. Keach and Mr. Whinnel should give themselves the Stile of being renowned they being the Authors of that Book in which they give this Encomium of their being Men of Renown It is but their own Opinion of themselves not it may be of others that know them However Modesty would have caused them if they had exercised any to have forborn to have spread their own Praise But surely Mr. Whinnel and Mr. K. forgot the Wise Man's Sayings Prov. 25.27 For Men to search their own Glory is not Glory And Prov. 27.2 Let another Man praise thee and not thine own Mouth And elsewhere that same Wise Man tells us Some Men are wiser in their own conceit than seven Men that ●●n render a Reason They again enquire how we dare say that Singing of Psalms with Voices is not of Divine Institution In answer to which we ask them again How they dare to say that Singing of Psalms in Meeter with a tunable Voice by the whole Church and a mixt Multitude is of Divine Institution when not one Word of all they have written doth prove it It hath been already granted that Singing of Psalms in the Temple-Worship was of Divine Institution And we acknowledg that all the Songs and Psalms in the Old Testament are the undoubted unerring Word of God and of excellent use to all the Servants of God profitable for Doctrine and Consolation wherein are contained many excellent Experiences of God's gracious dealing with his People and many blessed Promises and Prophecies for the establishment of the Church and Servants of God But we say the Singing of those Psalms as they had respect to the Temple-Worship with their Musical Singing and Instruments with the Persons assigned for that kind of Exercise are all at an end You will find 55 of them directed to the Master of Musick and 15 of them called each a Song of Degrees and most of them directed to the Sons of Korah And by the most Learned and Renowned Men of our Age it is asserted that those Ordinances being ended by the Coming of Christ who was to destroy the City and the Sanctuary and to cause the Sacrifice and Oblation to cease It remains now that the Word of Christ dwell richly in us in all Wisdom and that we be filled with the Spirit speaking to our selves teaching and admonishing one another in Psalms and Hymns and Spiritual Songs c. And if that manner of Worship under the Law is ceased as is affirmed by the Learned and Pious that it is then can it not be in the manner of that Administration in any respect unless you will say that the Type and the Anti-Type are all one But if the Gospel be the Anti-Type of those Types then we must conclude that as they were outward in their Melody and Musick so the Melody now under the Gospel must be inward or spiritual That is the joyful Voice signifying the Melody and Joy of our Hearts to God expressed in Praising and Thanksgiving to God who hath revealed more of his Grace by Jesus Christ That he who is a Spirit may be worshipp'd in Spirit and in Truth As Learned Dr. Owen saith in his Exposition on Heb. 2.13 before cited And whereas they say that they utterly deny that Prayer is a lower sort of Worship than Singing We answer That if they mean Singing in their Sense we agree with them but if in the Sense of the Scripture we do affirm that Praises which are the matter of a Song is a Duty of a higher Nature than Prayer For 1. The praising of God is that Duty which Saints and Angels will be employed in for ever but Prayer ceaseth On this account it is that the Apostle tells us that Charity is the greatest because it always abideth 1 Cor. 13. 2. Praise is giving to God the Glory of his Mercy received but Prayer is the begging from God the Mercies he hath promised and which we stand in need of But we shall not follow them in all their Mistakes and Impertinencies They also tell us they are against the composing ●●sing and imposing set-Forms of Prayer But would they but make known the Reasons why they are against set-Forms of Prayer no doubt but they would have answered themselves in all they could substantially alledg for their set-Form Singing and have saved us the labour But it is a Question whether it be so or no For this we find that those very Arguments those very scornful Reflections that those that are for set-Form Prayer do use against them that are opposite to that formal Will-Worship do these use to them that are against their set-Form Singing or Praising of God As for instance Do the one call in Scorn Praying by a Spiritual Gift ex tempore Praying in a confused Manner so do these to the like purpose spenk of praising or singing Praise to God without a set-Form Pag. 39. In the like manner as the one say If you pray by the Spirit your Prayer would be of equal Authority to Canonical Scripture so do these concerning singing Praise without a set-Form Pag. 36. Do the one say in derision that those that are against set-Form Prayer are Enthusiasts or setters up of Enthusiasm so do these in their pretended sober Reply say against those that deny their set-Form Singing Pag. 57 c. We hear that one whose Heart and Mind we believe as well as Name is to that Book of theirs hath asserted that Enthusiasm came in with the Doctrine of Believers Baptism whereby he would make our Lord Jesus the Author and Promoter of it that Doctrine of Baptism aforesaid being originally from his Command and Practice It were easy to answer to all these Cavils and Scorns cast upon us but we shall forbear at present because we would first know from them seeing they say they are resolved to answer and so to hold on this Controversy what they have to say to wipe off these Slurs cast upon their manner of Praying and yet that they may be deservedly cast upon those that are for praising or singing Praise by the same Spirit assisting in the same manner as he doth in Prayer But by these things the Baptized Churches may behold what that Spirit is that would introduce this common Singing among them that hath been so long rejected by them even the same that hath brought in and maintain'd all that carnal Worship which by the Anti-christian Apostacy hath fill'd the World to this Day And hereby they may see whereto it would lead them even back to lick up the old Vomit which will be the more pernicious to them than others because they have been through