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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
duty_n	david_n	psalm_n	sing_v	985	5	9.2598	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85699	A Welsh narrative, corrected, and taught to speak true English, and some Latine. Or, Animadversions on an imperfect relation in the perfect diurnall, Numb. 138. Aug.2. 1652. Containing a narration of the disputation between Dr Griffith and Mr Vavasor Powell, neer New-Chappell in Mountgomery-shire, July 23. 1652.	Griffith, George, 1601-1666.	1652 (1652)	Wing G1999; Thomason E675_10; ESTC R206748	20,287	27

For matter of fact he knew nothing of it he was himself at the interring of the body and he never heard nor knew of any singing either before or after Neither did he ever give any countenance to such needlesse singing by the way 2. For the charge it self Singing of Psalms is neither scandalous nor superstitious neither do the Papists use such singing There is a great deal of difference between Davids Psalms and Dirgo's Trentals and the like And a vast difference between the intention in Singing in the Reformed Churches and the Popish Funerals It is the opinion and intention or use that formally make the superstition Singing of Psalms is a spirituall duty or exercise and the meer prefence of a dead Corps is no Supersede as unto it 3. For the consequence or force of the Argument I shall desire the Reader to observe it A few of the Doctor's Parishioners did sing Psalms coming to bury a dead corps July 23 1652. Therefore they were superstitious and scandalous that elected him or approved of his election Mar. 20 1633. Except M. Powell prove this wilde consequence his new Argument brought him by good intelligence that morning fresh and fasting will stand him in no stead at all for the invalidating of the Doctor's Election by those of whom the most or greater part are Saints in heaven And he conceiveth himself bound in charity to think so of them And M. Powel with all his Holinesse is able to produce no colour of evidence to the contrary Narrat Upon this they were ashamed Then the Moderator stood up to help He propounded this Question Whether they might not be Saints though they sung before a dead corps Unto which M. Powell answered It was against the Directory Animad Shame in their faces that deserve it If they were ashed I am sure it was of you that have hardened your foreheads that ye cannot blush for your lying and impudence Let the world judge by the whole story who had the cause to be ashamed And though M. Powel thought himself facete in popping the Moderator in the mouth with the Directory yet every one that hath any understanding may discern that it doth not reach at all unto the demand or question The Parishioners were in ill case if every thing they do against the Directory must presently unsaint them And the moderator and the Doctor in as bad condition if every thing that 's done in their Parishes unwitting to them must presently make null their Election and Calling because it is against the Directory Narrat So he past to the third particular in the Syllogism That he was not rightly ordained M. Powell urged a Syllogisme to try how they were instructed about Ordination thus They who are ordained according to the Word of God are ordained by Apostles or Evanglists But you are not so ordained Ergo The Doctor did adde or by their successors Animad If they had not been better instructed before they came there they might have returned as wise as they came for any thing of Divinity or other sciences that was to be learned from the opponents for they want a great deal of instruction The Doctor did adde You are still too short of the exactnesse you professe You should have said If you be a scholar specially The Doctor distinguished of the Apostles considered either in their Persons or their Office Commission and Successor If M. Powel meant it of the Apostles in their Persons The Doctor denied the major Proposition If of them in their office and successors he denied the minor As for Evangelists as such never any writer said that they were intrusted with the Power of Ordination And if you be remembred there were proofs given of the necessity of succession and continuance of a power to ordain But M. Powell never offered to make any proof of either of the Premises Narrat There were many passages too and fro about the succession of the Apostles and Evangelists Animad Some there were about Succession of Apostles But for succession of Evangelists the Doctor and his friends I beleeve never heard of any to continue in the Church What the passages were you do not tell us Nor will I trouble my head with recollecting them If any of them had been such as might but seemingly be conserved for the advantage of your of your cause and glory of the day on your part all men may presume you would not have concealed them And since you have passed them over in silence let them lie dead for me I am confident the Doctor never conceived he could any way improve his credit by disputing with such as you And I know his Christian temper so well that he destreth no mans disgrace Narrat The Moderator said the Doctor was infirm in body which he hinted sevirall times before and desired an end of the daies disputation Animad This is not truly said neither For about this period he first spake of it and I do not well remember that he spake of the Doctors infirmity but twice in all But be it as you will The matter is not great It was time to call for an end of the disputation when after three hours wrangling it was scarce begun For neither of the Questions proposed were hitherto disputed of but wholly declined Only the Doctor and his charge were brought upon the stage or to a popular bar to be arraigned before an ignorant multitude or at least made marks for their mighty and sharp arrows even bitter words But God be thanked you do not finde any enormous crimes laid to any of their charge and for any thing yet appeareth they may all be as good Saints as the best of the New Congregations For the worst God blesse me from comparing with them Narrat M. Powell said He might choose any other in his stead But they urged an end Animad This passage is not remembred neither by diverse who were present and would gladly have embraced the opportunity to take up the Cudgels against M. Powell and his brethren and I am told that assoon as the Doctors back was turned there went a young man to one of the bench and challenged him to try his skill at the same weapon but was refused Nar. Nay said M. Powell we have said nothing for our Ministers Gifted men Separation we desire you to stay As for the Ministers it was declared how they were gifted elected approved Animad Truly ye had said as much as comes to nothing all the while And nothing can be remembred that you say was declared for the Ministers All I understood was what M. Powell declared for himself viz. In the way of his Calling He had somewhat from the Bishop afterward he received Imposition of hands with fasting and prayer by a Presbytery in London So M. Powel is an Episcopall Presbyter as well as the Doctor and there is some hopes they may agree in time when this youthfull heat is a little over By them he was sent to the Assembly