Selected quad for the lemma: duty_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
duty_n conclude_v false_a great_a 36 3 2.0863 3 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

There are 9 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

they_o proceed_v to_o censure_n gradual_o and_o for_o no_o other_o cause_n but_o for_o the_o like_a sin_n and_o scandal_n that_o the_o word_n direct_v in_o 4._o query_n whether_o the_o church_n shall_v own_o man_n to_o be_v member_n for_o a_o bare_a profession_n etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v i_o do_v the_o more_o wonder_n at_o the_o query_n answ_n because_o the_o most_o of_o sober_a divine_n be_v tax_v for_o unfoundnesse_n in_o hold_v the_o affirmative_a and_o yet_o himself_o say_v the_o child_n of_o such_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o therefore_o to_o be_v baptize_v whereas_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o church_n member_n how_o come_v their_o child_n to_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o to_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n that_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o child_n of_o such_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o if_o a_o remote_a right_n may_v serve_v to_o bring_v in_o the_o child_n of_o such_o a_o bare_a professor_n as_o he_o pag_n 129._o then_o why_o have_v not_o the_o parent_n of_o that_o child_n the_o same_o remote_a right_n as_o be_v a_o generation_n near_o that_o right_a they_o be_v not_o excommunicate_a as_o be_v suppose_v be_v the_o child_n a_o member_n without_o so_o much_o as_o a_o bare_a profession_n and_o the_o parent_n none_o that_o profess_v christianity_n external_o a_o bare_a profession_n may_v be_v serious_a in_o its_o kind_n i_o suppose_v though_o it_o want_v the_o will_n of_o holiness_n so_o that_o if_o we_o add_v to_o a_o historical_a or_o temporary_a professor_n but_o to_o be_v serious_a and_o real_a in_o his_o profession_n for_o the_o present_a he_o may_v pass_v for_o a_o member_n with_o he_o and_o i_o shall_v think_v those_o man_n very_o uncharitable_a that_o judge_n less_o of_o we_o general_o that_o frequent_a god_n ordinance_n and_o take_v themselves_o great_o wrong_v when_o they_o be_v deprive_v of_o any_o one_o i_o take_v it_o to_o be_v a_o good_a sign_n that_o they_o be_v serious_a in_o what_o they_o profess_v and_o then_o this_o be_v but_o the_o same_o which_o in_o other_o he_o conceive_v unsound_a 2._o what_o shall_v be_v do_v with_o the_o child_n of_o the_o most_o godly_a when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o if_o profession_n without_o true_a holiness_n do_v not_o continue_v such_o member_n forasmuch_o that_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n leave_v to_o dismember_v for_o ignorance_n or_o want_n of_o the_o work_n of_o true_a holiness_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n member_n such_o be_v not_o only_o by_o birth_n but_o formal_o by_o the_o church_n approbational_a act_n of_o baptism_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o renounce_v or_o forsake_v their_o christian_a profession_n that_o they_o adhere_v to_o the_o external_a part_n of_o it_o and_o be_v not_o scandalous_a they_o neither_o fall_v off_o nor_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o any_o rule_n or_o act_v of_o censure_n what_o hinder_v they_o but_o that_o such_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v a_o true_a right_n to_o all_o the_o external_a privilege_n of_o membership_n 3._o if_o positive_a unbelief_n in_o deny_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n on_o who_o the_o church_n be_v build_v cut_v off_o person_n from_o the_o church_n as_o be_v clear_o speak_v of_o the_o jew_n rom._n 11._o then_o the_o contrary_a to_o that_o infidelity_n which_o be_v a_o real_a own_n and_o profess_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n continue_v those_o that_o be_v member_n bear_v to_o be_v member_n so_o long_o as_o they_o hold_v to_o the_o christian_a profession_n excommunication_n dismember_v but_o conditional_o for_o in_o case_n the_o offender_n external_o reform_v and_o hold_v to_o his_o profession_n and_o promise_v amendment_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v loose_v from_o that_o censure_n but_o i_o hasten_v what_o shall_v minister_n do_v while_o government_n be_v unsettle_a query_n 5_o and_o their_o people_n opposite_a to_o way_n of_o reformation_n 1._o shall_v they_o give_v the_o sacrament_n promiscuous_o to_o all_o 2._o shall_v they_o by_o their_o own_o antiquity_n exclude_v the_o unfit_a 3._o or_o shall_v they_o whole_o desist_v to_o the_o last_o he_o answer_v that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v so_o necessary_a as_o that_o it_o may_v not_o always_o nor_o long_v be_v discontinue_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n do_v this_o require_v obedience_n this_o he_o say_v be_v well_o prove_v by_o mr._n joane_n but_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o close_o with_o he_o in_o another_o point_n namely_o that_o while_o the_o church_n be_v undisciplined_a the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v administer_v in_o every_o congregation_n without_o any_o separation_n but_o he_o conceive_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n can_v be_v holy_o transact_v by_o any_o unless_o the_o scandalous_a be_v remove_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 169._o 1._o answ_n it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o their_o people_n be_v opposite_a to_o true_a reformation_n or_o no_o because_o they_o be_v never_o yet_o try_v with_o it_o and_o therefore_o who_o can_v tell_v whether_o they_o will_v oppose_v it_o or_o no_o that_o they_o be_v opposite_a to_o such_o way_n of_o reformation_n as_o the_o author_n pretend_v to_o and_o labour_n to_o defend_v be_v no_o great_a wonder_n when_o minister_n will_v venture_v to_o speak_v and_o do_v such_o thing_n to_o reform_v they_o which_o be_v not_o where_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o in_o their_o own_o will_n and_o fancy_n as_o i_o have_v discover_v already_o it_o be_v well_o he_o be_v so_o sober_a as_o to_o hold_v the_o administer_a of_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o necessary_a that_o it_o may_v not_o long_o be_v omit_v and_o that_o he_o assent_v to_o that_o reverend_a minister_n mr._n joanes_o who_o have_v do_v the_o church_n most_o eminent_a service_n in_o that_o undertake_n of_o he_o and_o then_o if_o it_o be_v a_o necessary_a duty_n require_v obedience_n why_o then_o this_o may_v satisfy_v he_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o first_o shall_v they_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o yeato_fw-mi all_o that_o be_v concern_v in_o christian_a obedience_n and_o observance_n which_o all_o in_o your_o parish_n that_o be_v baptize_v and_o of_o year_n be_v as_o well_o to_o this_o as_o to_o any_o other_o part_n of_o institute_v worship_n in_o the_o church_n and_o there_o be_v no_o more_o danger_n in_o the_o word_n promiscuous_a to_o this_o ordinance_n then_o to_o all_o other_o there_o be_v as_o much_o to_o be_v say_v for_o the_o cast_v the_o scandalous_a out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o more_o too_o for_o we_o have_v no_o rule_n at_o all_o to_o exclude_v a_o scandalous_a member_n from_o the_o sacrament_n while_o he_o be_v within_o but_o we_o have_v clear_a rule_n to_o cast_v such_o out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n and_o then_o removal_n from_o the_o sacrament_n fall_v in_o as_o a_o consequence_n of_o that_o juridical_a act_n and_o no_o otherwise_o that_o minister_n be_v in_o a_o very_a great_a strait_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o one_o hand_n to_o administer_v say_v he_o and_o yet_o perchance_o have_v a_o wicked_a party_n predominant_a to_o hinder_v any_o good_a course_n of_o separation_n answ_n the_o strait_n be_v not_o to_o great_a more_o as_o in_o show_n and_o conceit_n man_n first_o receive_v false_a principle_n and_o then_o conclude_v according_o from_o they_o and_o that_o bring_v they_o into_o strait_n whereas_o if_o they_o be_v right_o inform_v of_o their_o own_o duty_n and_o their_o people_n privilege_n as_o church-member_n the_o case_n be_v easy_a christ_n command_v to_o all_o his_o visible_a subject_n while_o they_o be_v within_o be_v a_o sufficient_a warranty_n &_o upon_o this_o very_a ground_n you_o be_v now_o in_o no_o more_o straight_o about_o the_o lord_n supper_n then_o in_o all_o other_o worship_n which_o many_o scarce_o make_v so_o much_o as_o a_o scruple_n of_o his_o say_n that_o this_o be_v against_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n he_o intend_v it_o for_o disciple_n only_o be_v pitiful_a weak_a when_o himself_o grant_v the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n of_o all_o as_o holy_a federal_o from_o their_o parent_n which_o can_v be_v true_a unless_o their_o parent_n be_v believer_n or_o disciple_n as_o have_v be_v show_v and_o therefore_o in_o grant_v that_o it_o do_v necessary_o prove_v the_o lawful_a right_n of_o all_o to_o the_o holy_a supper_n baptism_n &_o lord_n supper_n be_v but_o the_o same_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n in_o which_o both_o be_v in_o clude_v and_o concern_v and_o doubtless_o a_o single_a minister_n be_v not_o impower_v with_o authority_n to_o excommunicate_v juridical_o which_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v be_v mr._n joane_v his_o advantage_n upon_o his_o adversary_n he_o hold_v they_o strict_o to_o some_o such_o presbyterian_a principle_n as_o this_o which_o i_o wonder_v that_o any_o man_n shall_v dare_v to_o assume_v to_o
baptism_n lay_v the_o same_o engagement_n upon_o all_o the_o baptize_v to_o come_v under_o all_o observance_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n administration_n that_o of_o the_o holy_a supper_n as_o well_o as_o other_o hence_o the_o apostle_n commend_v the_o church_n of_o corinth_n for_o remember_v he_o in_o all_o thing_n and_o for_o keep_v the_o ordinance_n as_o he_o deliver_v they_o unto_o they_o 1_o cor._n 11.2_o and_o it_o be_v not_o good_a to_o distinguish_v and_o dispute_v away_o duty_n where_o the_o scripture_n give_v such_o a_o general_a warranty_n i_o know_v not_o well_o what_o he_o mean_v by_o christ_n command_a respective_o if_o he_o judge_v that_o we_o be_v within_o as_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n be_v without_o doubt_n they_o be_v both_o under_o the_o observance_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n if_o he_o judge_v that_o we_o that_o be_v ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a be_v without_o then_o what_o have_v he_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v those_o that_o be_v without_o there_o be_v no_o hope_n to_o amend_v they_o by_o discipline_n or_o ground_n to_o baptize_v their_o child_n or_o to_o justify_v the_o main_a foundation_n of_o our_o church_n as_o i_o say_v in_o my_o book_n pag._n 23._o the_o bar_n remove_v so_o i_o say_v again_o that_o jesus_n christ_n command_v nothing_o for_o the_o hurt_n of_o his_o visible_a subject_n they_o observe_v it_o according_a to_o their_o present_a capacity_n can_v a_o instance_n be_v give_v in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n of_o any_o any_o that_o come_v under_o circumsion_n or_o baptism_n that_o as_o private_a member_n be_v admit_v to_o all_o other_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n and_o yet_o be_v forbid_v the_o other_o sacrament_n the_o passeover_n or_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o this_o mr._n collins_n answer_v with_o a_o mere_a trifle_n tell_v we_o that_o it_o will_v pose_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o those_o that_o have_v touch_v the_o dead_a body_n of_o a_o man_n may_v come_v at_o no_o ordinance_n but_o he_o can_v prove_v they_o may_v not_o come_v to_o the_o passeover_n numb_a 9_o enough_o have_v be_v say_v to_o this_o already_o answ_n i_o need_v but_o repeat_v numb_a 19.13_o 20_o 22._o the_o truth_n be_v what_o ever_o the_o unclean_a do_v touch_v or_o what_o ever_o touch_v he_o be_v unclean_a hag._n 2._o verse_n 22_o nay_o such_o person_n that_o neglect_v the_o law_n for_o their_o purification_n be_v to_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o the_o congregation_n because_o he_o have_v defile_v the_o sanctuary_n of_o the_o lord_n i_o may_v run_v through_o the_o several_a kind_n of_o uncleanness_n and_o show_v you_o how_o they_o be_v separate_v both_o from_o civil_a as_o well_o as_o holy_a society_n but_o those_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o scripture_n will_v be_v satisfy_v in_o this_o thing_n nay_o as_o i_o have_v note_v before_o the_o lord_n appoint_v and_o consecrate_v a_o season_n on_o purpose_n for_o the_o unclean_a to_o keep_v the_o passeover_n but_o not_o so_o of_o any_o other_o ordinance_n they_o be_v deprive_v of_o in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o uncleanness_n mr._n collins_n say_v nor_o be_v that_o whimsy_n of_o i_o pag._n 25._o at_o all_o better_a by_o which_o i_o prove_v the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n a_o duty_n incumbent_n upon_o all_o because_o include_v in_o the_o first_o table_n he_o say_v it_o will_v pose_v i_o to_o prove_v that_o this_o duty_n of_o receive_v be_v command_v in_o the_o first_o table_n if_o it_o be_v yet_o he_o hope_v preach_v of_o the_o word_n be_v so_o also_o which_o yet_o be_v not_o a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o all_o but_o to_o those_o only_o who_o be_v appoint_v thereto_o if_o that_o of_o i_o must_v go_v under_o the_o reproach_n of_o a_o whimsy_n with_o mr._n collins_n answ_n i_o know_v as_o reverend_a and_o as_o able_a divine_n as_o mr._n collins_n appear_v to_o be_v that_o do_v judge_n that_o the_o affirmative_a part_n of_o the_o second_o commandment_n include_v all_o god_n institute_v worship_n which_o at_o any_o time_n he_o have_v or_o shall_v prescribe_v to_o be_v do_v and_o except_o mr._n collins_n will_v deny_v the_o holy_a supper_n to_o be_v a_o part_n of_o god_n institute_v worship_n it_o must_v come_v under_o this_o prescribe_a worship_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o there_o be_v no_o part_n express_v in_o the_o command_n more_o than_o another_o it_o be_v enough_o to_o prove_v that_o all_o in_o the_o church_n come_v under_o the_o precept_n of_o worship_n the_o sacrament_n be_v so_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o that_o as_o well_o as_o all_o other_o but_o then_o he_o seem_v to_o grant_v the_o thing_n yet_o he_o hope_v so_o be_v preach_v of_o the_o word_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a and_o as_o i_o have_v say_v in_o my_o book_n pag._n 25_o that_o all_o minister_n what_o ever_o be_v bind_v hence_o to_o preach_v etc._n etc._n and_o what_o need_v we_o have_v the_o same_o again_o but_o that_o he_o have_v rather_o puzzle_v than_o satisfy_v the_o weak_a we_o know_v that_o which_o lay_v a_o injunction_n upon_o minister_n to_o preach_v or_o administer_v etc._n etc._n do_v also_o enjoin_v all_o their_o people_n to_o hear_v and_o receive_v as_o private_a christian_n the_o commandment_n do_v not_o confound_v relative_a duty_n although_o mr._n collins_n of_o purpose_n do_v to_o deceive_v his_o reader_n and_o i_o think_v it_o may_v make_v he_o blush_v to_o call_v that_o a_o whimsy_n in_o i_o which_o be_v so_o ordinary_o deliver_v by_o as_o reverend_a man_n as_o himself_o and_o a_o great_a deal_n more_o but_o the_o judicious_a reader_n may_v easy_o judge_v what_o poor_a shift_n he_o be_v put_v unto_o that_o except_v against_o the_o truth_n let_v mr._n collins_n give_v we_o some_o rational_a account_n why_o person_n in_o the_o church_n be_v less_o engage_v unto_o this_o part_n of_o institute_v worship_n then_o all_o other_o that_o all_o of_o the_o jew_n church_n shall_v come_v under_o the_o law_n of_o the_o passeover_n without_o exception_n good_a and_o bad_a and_o he_o to_o plead_v no_o duty_n to_o the_o holy_a supper_n of_o person_n in_o the_o church_n too_o they_o be_v not_o worse_o than_o the_o carnal_a jew_n i_o see_v not_o but_o upon_o the_o same_o ground_n he_o exempt_v they_o from_o this_o duty_n he_o may_v exempt_v they_o from_o all_o other_o that_o be_v essential_a to_o a_o church_n state_n and_o so_o consequent_o not_o only_a unduty_n they_o but_o unchurch_n they_o too_o for_o what_o he_o have_v say_v before_o imply_v no_o less_o where_o he_o be_v bold_a to_o undisciple_v they_o to_o evade_v this_o argument_n we_o draw_v from_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n matth._n 28.20_o the_o doctor_n be_v somewhat_o sharp_a with_o my_o much_o respect_a friend_n mr._n humphrey_n for_o make_v the_o act_n of_o receive_v the_o principal_a and_o examination_n but_o a_o accessary_n in_o my_o vindicate_v of_o he_o i_o hint_v two_o or_o three_o thing_n 1._o that_o the_o duty_n of_o self-examination_n be_v but_o a_o private_a duty_n and_o the_o private_a be_v to_o be_v subordinate_a to_o the_o public_a 2._o this_o duty_n of_o examination_n be_v prescribe_v occasional_o as_o a_o remedy_n to_o that_o particular_a case_n of_o make_v a_o breach_n upon_o the_o material_n of_o divine_a institution_n and_o order_n and_o we_o may_v safe_o say_v the_o end_n be_v most_o principal_a the_o mean_n less_o 3._o where_o a_o true_a church_n do_v not_o so_o offend_v as_o corinth_n do_v this_o duty_n be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v urge_v upon_o they_o as_o to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n but_o it_o be_v clear_a there_o be_v not_o the_o same_o offend_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o there_o be_v at_o corinth_n therefore_o that_o duty_n be_v not_o to_o be_v urge_v upon_o we_o with_o the_o same_o necessity_n of_o danger_n of_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o as_o to_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n unto_o these_o mr._n collins_n have_v some_o exception_n 1._o whether_o it_o be_v sense_n or_o no_o he_o can_v tell_v that_o i_o say_v self-examination_n be_v a_o private_a duty_n and_o so_o subordinate_a to_o the_o public_a and_o then_o say_v who_o deny_v it_o but_o yet_o he_o question_n whether_o upon_o a_o incapacity_n or_o neglect_v of_o the_o private_a the_o public_a be_v a_o duty_n for_o where_o a_o private_a duty_n be_v command_v in_o order_n to_o prepare_v we_o for_o the_o public_a we_o can_v without_o sin_n perform_v the_o public_a before_o we_o have_v perform_v the_o private_a cleanse_v be_v the_o unclean_a person_n private_a duty_n yet_o till_o it_o be_v do_v he_o may_v not_o come_v to_o the_o passeover_n 1._o answ_n though_o i_o grant_v self-examination_n a_o requisite_a duty_n unto_o a_o profitable_a receive_n and_o judge_v the_o neglect_n thereof_o sinful_a yet_o so_o long_o as_o the_o public_a administration_n be_v carry_v on_o with_o reverence_n
but_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v when_o ever_o themselves_o or_o any_o other_o o●_n their_o friend_n desire_v it_o for_o they_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o membership_n it_o not_o be_v their_o fault_n it_o have_v be_v neglect_v so_o long_o but_o their_o parent_n and_o i_o say_v likewise_o of_o the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a bear_v in_o the_o church_n be_v they_o unbaptise_v the_o church_n ought_v to_o use_v all_o mean_n possible_a to_o persuade_v they_o unto_o it_o as_o their_o special_a duty_n to_o engage_v they_o unto_o better_a obedience_n and_o church_n discipline_n for_o their_o amendment_n the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v uncircumcised_a a_o great_a many_o of_o they_o while_o they_o be_v in_o their_o travel_n in_o the_o wilderness_n their_o uncircumcision_n do_v not_o discovenant_n nor_o unchurch_n they_o but_o they_o be_v all_o circumcise_a when_o they_o come_v to_o canaan_n god_n be_v angry_a with_o moses_n for_o neglect_v the_o circumcise_n of_o his_o son_n but_o yet_o their_o covenant_n relation_n hold_v they_o must_v be_v circumcise_v and_o i_o think_v here_o be_v nothing_o against_o reason_n in_o all_o this_o but_o then_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n for_o heathen_a to_o be_v baptize_v that_o be_v ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a because_o they_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n of_o promise_n have_v no_o such_o privilege_n as_o covenant_n relation_n they_o be_v unclean_a and_o until_o they_o embrace_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o express_v themselves_o real_a in_o their_o acceptance_n of_o it_o and_o promise_v to_o join_v themselves_o with_o the_o visible_a profess_v body_n of_o christ_n they_o may_v not_o be_v receive_v these_o be_v two_o huge_a different_a thing_n which_o mr._n collins_n all_o along_o level_v to_o the_o same_o and_o therefore_o his_o argument_n fall_v to_o nothing_o and_o i_o will_v have_v mr._n collins_n and_o all_o other_o that_o profess_v themselves_o friend_n to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o beware_v how_o they_o maintain_v that_o baptism_n make_v church-member_n it_o be_v true_a of_o those_o that_o be_v of_o the_o pagan_a world_n by_o nature_n they_o can_v in_o no_o wise_n be_v make_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o lawful_a baptism_n but_o those_o in_o the_o church_n that_o be_v bear_v of_o christian_a parent_n be_v member_n bear_v they_o be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n with_o their_o parent_n but_o mr._n collins_n in_o proof_n of_o his_o major_n say_v it_o be_v against_o reason_n to_o say_v the_o contraray_v a_o notable_a proof_n indeed_o let_v he_o show_v we_o wh●_n reason_n it_o be_v against_o to_o say_v that_o church-member_n unbaptise_v aught_o to_o be_v baptize_v up●●_n lower_v personal_a qualification_n then_o heathen_a i_o come_v to_o my_o next_o proposition_n that_o the_o in_o the_o church_n who_o we_o can_v exclude_v from_o c●●venant_n relation_n that_o be_v of_o year_n must_v not_o be_v exclude_v from_o the_o sacrament_n because_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o covenant_n love_v to_o that_o people_n the_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o covenant_n administration_n mr._n collins_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o be_v fall_v upon_o the_o old_a business_n again_o and_o wonder_n her_o year_n of_o discretion_n come_v in_o for_o he_o say_v the_o argument_n be_v to_o prove_v a_o right_n to_o covenant_n seal_v for_o s●●_n as_o be_v in_o covenant_n relation_n now_o child_n be_v 〈◊〉_d covenant_n relation_n that_o exception_n plain_o imply_v say_v he_o that_o covenant_n relation_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o give_v right_a to_o covenant_n seal_v and_o so_o he_o say_v i_o have_v answer_v myself_o mr._n answ_n 1_o collins_n be_v more_o happy_a than_o other_o i●_n such_o a_o answer_n be_v judge_v a_o sufficient_a one_o because_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v no_o essential_a o●_n covenant_n relation_n but_o of_o a_o man_n put_v he_o into_o a_o actual_a capacity_n to_o perform_v act_n of_o worship_n the_o which_o until_o then_o he_o be_v not_o under_o the_o obligation_n of_o actual_a observance_n i_o have_v speak_v enough_o to_o this_o already_o why_o be_v not_o covenant_n relation_n enough_o i_o never_o think_v so_o but_o maintain_v that_o covenant_n relation_n give_v right_a to_o covenant_n seal_v unto_o parent_n and_o child_n i_o hope_v i_o be_o as_o clear_v in_o this_o point_n as_o most_o be_v it_o be_v a_o handsome_a shift_a of_o a_o answer_n to_o say_v i_o have_v answer_v myself_o the_o argument_n lie_v to_o answer_v still_o if_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o covenant_n love_n to_o a_o people_n in_o possession_n of_o covenant_n administration_n than_o such_o a_o people_n ought_v to_o use_v these_o seal_n of_o covenant_n love_v unto_o they_o in_o remembrance_n thereof_o until_o they_o be_v legal_o dispossess_v of_o the_o same_o but_o we_o be_v in_o covenant_n relation_n and_o in_o possession_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o covenant_n therefore_o it_o belong_v to_o they_o to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o seal_n of_o god_n love_n in_o remembrance_n of_o his_o goodness_n towards_o they_o until_o you_o can_v discovenant_v they_o it_o be_v a_o weak_a thing_n to_o go_v about_o to_o dispriviledge_v they_o in_o the_o external_o of_o the_o church_n especial_o the_o ordinance_n be_v the_o ordinary_a way_n and_o mean_n of_o attain_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o his_o 35._o pag._n he_o tell_v we_o that_o sacrament_n be_v not_o seal_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n but_o seal_v to_o the_o acceptation_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o which_o faith_n must_v be_v suppose_v i_o have_v always_o think_v that_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n answ_n and_o so_o often_o publish_v and_o repeat_v and_o explain_v to_o the_o jew_n church_n and_o apply_v to_o the_o gospel_n church_n heb._n 8._o have_v be_v a_o everlasting_a covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o that_o sacrament_n seal_v to_o this_o covenant_n and_o that_o not_o only_o the_o new_a covenant_n but_o the_o seal_v thereof_o belong_v unto_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o that_o the_o agreement_n or_o covenant_n between_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n for_o the_o elect_a have_v be_v a_o different_a thing_n from_o the_o covenant_n make_v unto_o the_o church_n which_o sacrament_n seal_v if_o that_o be_v not_o a_o everlasting_a covenant_n that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o fign_n and_o seal_v of_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o be_o out_o but_o i_o be_o sure_a it_o be_v that_o which_o i_o have_v be_v always_o teach_v and_o never_o hear_v it_o deny_v but_o by_o anabaptist_n and_o such_o like_a heterodox_n spirit_n it_o be_v true_a this_o everlasting_a covenant_n be_v to_o be_v enter_v into_o by_o those_o the_o seal_n be_v to_o be_v apply_v unto_o and_o this_o entrance_n or_o acceptance_n be_v either_o personal_a or_o parental_a a_o alien_n upon_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o desire_v to_o join_v himself_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o christ_n by_o baptism_n and_o so_o to_o come_v voluntary_o under_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v he_o have_v accept_v of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o for_o those_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n by_o nature_n and_o profess_v no_o other_o religion_n and_o worship_n but_o the_o true_a be_v all_o suppose_a to_o have_v such_o a_o faith_n at_o least_o as_o do_v argue_v their_o acceptance_n of_o the_o covenant_n during_o their_o abode_n in_o the_o church_n the_o which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o engage_v they_o unto_o christian_a obedience_n and_o do_v entitle_v they_o to_o external_a church_n privilege_n although_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o in_o order_n to_o their_o justification_n and_o salvation_n but_o yet_o the_o external_a part_n be_v the_o way_n prescribe_v for_o the_o attainment_n of_o the_o internal_a blessing_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n even_o to_o as_o many_o in_o the_o church_n that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v send_v into_o the_o world_n to_o seek_v and_o to_o save_v by_o give_v they_o repentance_n and_o remission_n of_o sin_n hence_o it_o be_v very_o necessary_a to_o distinguish_v of_o a_o twofold_a acceptation_n one_o common_a that_o accept_v of_o the_o external_a part_n of_o the_o covenant_n which_o reprobate_n do_v with_o the_o elect_a the_o other_o be_v internal_a and_o special_a when_o god_n by_o his_o spirit_n open_v the_o heart_n and_o incline_v the_o will_n to_o receive_v the_o grace_n of_o the_o covenant_n unto_o eternal_a life_n the_o former_a be_v that_o which_o give_v right_a to_o the_o external_a privilege_n of_o the_o church_n the_o other_o to_o the_o internal_a blessing_n of_o grace_n and_o glory_n the_o former_a have_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o first_o grace_n the_o other_o the_o promise_n of_o increase_n in_o grace_n and_o the_o reward_n of_o glory_n if_o that_o be_v true_a of_o mr._n collins_n that_o sacrament_n seal_v to_o the_o acceptation_n of_o the_o covenant_n which_o
out_o of_o the_o church_n we_o shall_v reprove_v instruct_v admonish_v and_o warn_v every_o sinner_n to_o fly_v the_o wrath_n to_o come_v and_o this_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v towards_o all_o in_o our_o place_n and_o calling_n as_o private_a christian_n and_o hence_o i_o conceive_v that_o mr._n collins_n be_v huge_o mistake_v that_o stretch_v the_o metaphor_n of_o dog_n to_o any_o kind_n of_o sinner_n that_o the_o scripture_n compare_v to_o dog_n for_o other_o kind_n of_o property_n of_o dog_n as_o worthlesnesse_n greediness_n bark_v or_o lick_v up_o their_o vomit_n etc._n etc._n the_o text_n be_v of_o such_o dog_n that_o will_v tear_v and_o scorn_v you_o for_o the_o best_a counsel_n you_o can_v give_v they_o for_o the_o good_a of_o their_o soul_n and_o i_o think_v that_o the_o same_o ground_n mr._n collins_n go_v upon_o to_o allow_v all_o the_o other_o holy_a thing_n unto_o heathen_n the_o excommunicate_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v satisfy_v he_o as_o rational_o to_o allow_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a in_o the_o church_n all_o that_o he_o plead_v to_o the_o other_o be_v from_o some_o other_o scripture_n warrant_v and_o i_o appeal_v unto_o the_o impartial_a to_o judge_v between_o we_o whether_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o their_o respective_a flock_n be_v not_o as_o much_o bind_v by_o christ_n command_n to_o administer_v the_o holy_a supper_n unto_o their_o particular_a flock_n consist_v of_o church-member_n disciple_n baptize_v and_o not_o excommunicate_v as_o to_o administer_v the_o other_o holy_a ordinance_n unto_o heathen_a the_o excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n i_o think_v i_o have_v say_v enough_o as_o to_o the_o former_a from_o mat._n 28.20_o to_o give_v full_a satisfaction_n let_v i_o tell_v our_o author_n and_o the_o world_n that_o although_o it_o be_v sufficient_o teach_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o deny_v the_o unbaptised_a and_o excommunicate_a the_o holy_a supper_n yet_o this_o text_n in_o debate_n do_v not_o forbid_v it_o at_o all_o to_o those_o that_o be_v without_o or_o under_o church_n censure_n much_o less_o do_v it_o forbid_v the_o sacrament_n to_o those_o that_o be_v within_o which_o be_v the_o thing_n mr._n collins_n quote_v it_o to_o prove_v and_o thus_o in_o short_a i_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o main_a of_o mr._n collins_n strength_n as_o touch_v this_o place_n and_o i_o humble_o conceive_v have_v break_v his_o argument_n draw_v from_o this_o text_n to_o make_v good_a his_o principal_a syllogism_n pag._n 4._o that_o there_o may_v be_v some_o baptize_v person_n in_o the_o church_n not_o cast_v out_o to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n may_v not_o lawful_o be_v give_v and_o he_o must_v quit_v himself_o a_o great_a deal_n better_o than_o in_o his_o book_n to_o make_v good_a his_o two_o proposition_n from_o this_o text_n before_o he_o can_v conclude_v any_o thing_n for_o his_o purpose_n and_o true_o i_o think_v it_o be_v a_o acceptable_a service_n both_o to_o god_n and_o the_o poor_a church_n in_o mr._n boteman_n who_o so_o present_o address_v himself_o to_o redeem_v a_o captive_a text_n so_o woeful_o wrest_v to_o perplex_v and_o disturb_v the_o poor_a church_n peace_n in_o set_v up_o a_o invention_n of_o man_n which_o jesu●_n christ_n command_v not_o and_o for_o his_o assumption_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o holy_a thing_n and_o a_o pearl_n and_o there_o may_v be_v some_o in_o the_o church_n not_o cast_v out_o who_o in_o scripture_n phrase_n be_v dog_n and_o swine_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a answ_n 1_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o holy_a thing_n but_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o it_o i●_n that_o which_o be_v holy_a mean_v in_o the_o text_n nor_o forbid_v to_o be_v give_v upon_o that_o reason_n our_o saviour_n give_v for_o fear_v of_o be_v rend_v etc._n etc._n and_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o there_o be_v some_o in_o the_o church_n that_o be_v such_o kind_n of_o dog_n that_o be_v irreproveable_a that_o will_v not_o endure_v a_o private_a reproof_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reprove_v ministerial_o by_o person_n in_o office_n in_o their_o public_a preach_n nor_o that_o they_o may_v not_o authoritative_o be_v reprove_v and_o admonish_v and_o censure_v by_o the_o church_n juridical_o for_o their_o desperate_a rail_a dogged_a miscarriage_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o offend_a brethren_n why_o be_v they_o not_o deal_v withal_o according_a unto_o the_o right_a rule_n matth._n 18._o 1_o cor._n 5._o if_o any_o person_n in_o the_o church_n be_v object_n of_o excommunication_n i_o judge_v such_o be_v and_o then_o judge_v whether_o suspension_n be_v sufficient_a where_o excommunication_n shall_v and_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n provide_v they_o be_v obstinate_a otherwise_o church_n admonition_n may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a remedy_n to_o reform_v such_o scandalous_a sinner_n hence_o judge_v how_o pertinent_a this_o text_n be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o prove_v suspension_n of_o some_o from_o the_o sacrament_n that_o as_o member_n of_o the_o church_n may_v be_v allow_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n in_o all_o other_o spiritual_a act_n of_o worship_n how_o this_o prove_v suspension_n of_o some_o distinct_a from_o excommunication_n i_o leave_v to_o the_o freedom_n of_o your_o own_o judgement_n to_o judge_v of_o in_o the_o next_o place_n without_o any_o wrong_n to_o the_o author_n i_o shall_v examine_v his_o three_o scripture_n argument_n deducible_a from_o 1_o cor._n 5._o rather_o choose_v to_o follow_v the_o apostle_n order_n in_o this_o epistle_n because_o by_o answer_v of_o this_o first_o it_o will_v save_v i_o some_o labour_n in_o my_o answer_n to_o his_o second_o 1_o cor._n 10.17_o his_o argument_n be_v this_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o with_o who_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o themselves_o or_o their_o brethren_n to_o eat_v but_o there_o may_v be_v some_o in_o the_o church_n not_o cast_v out_o with_o who_o it_o may_v be_v unlawful_a for_o the_o church_n to_o eat_v ergo._n i_o question_v the_o truth_n of_o his_o first_o proposition_n answ_n 1_o by_o distinguish_v of_o a_o friendly_a familiar_a unnecessary_a eat_n and_o of_o a_o true_a necessary_a eat_n now_o in_o a_o civil_a sense_n i_o may_v not_o have_v friendly_a unnecessary_a familiarity_n with_o scandalous_a brethren_n though_o not_o cast_v out_o but_o may_v withdraw_v from_o all_o friendly_a unnecessary_a familiarity_n from_o such_o as_o a_o mean_n to_o bring_v they_o to_o shame_n but_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v therefore_o that_o i_o upon_o my_o necessary_a occasion_n in_o my_o call_v must_v shun_v such_o but_o that_o i_o may_v set_v such_o a_o one_o a_o work_n and_o admit_v he_o to_o my_o table_n he_o be_v not_o cast_v out_o though_o scandalous_a or_o a_o poor_a man_n may_v work_v for_o a_o scandalous_a rich_a man_n and_o eat_v at_o his_o table_n with_o he_o etc._n etc._n or_o upon_o a_o journey_n and_o divers_a such_o case_n with_o relation_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o same_o person_n that_o i_o may_v not_o eat_v with_o the_o same_o person_n i_o may_v eat_v with_o so_o that_o if_o the_o apostle_n in_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o mean_v but_o civil_a eat_n his_o first_o proposition_n be_v not_o good_a nor_o very_o clear_a which_o he_o will_v have_v his_o reader_n to_o believe_v without_o any_o doubt_n or_o proof_n if_o we_o may_v eat_v with_o a_o scandalous_a brother_n not_o legal_o cast_v out_o as_o before_o than_o we_o may_v have_v company_n and_o eat_v with_o such_o at_o the_o sacrament_n because_o give_v and_o receive_v at_o the_o sacrament_n be_v our_o necessary_a duty_n as_o profess_v christian_n and_o church-member_n which_o i_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v before_o the_o which_o the_o worst_a offender_n in_o the_o church_n may_v not_o careless_o neglect_v so_o long_o as_o they_o be_v in_o a_o church_n capacity_n to_o receive_v and_o that_o capacity_n remain_v until_o the_o church_n authoritative_o have_v put_v they_o out_o of_o church_n communion_n as_o member_n and_o then_o and_o not_o until_o then_o be_v scandalous_a brethren_n disoblige_v from_o public_a duty_n of_o worship_n and_o hence_o his_o argument_n that_o he_o draw_v from_o the_o lesser_a to_o the_o great_a be_v fallacious_a and_o that_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o bottom_n of_o his_o argument_n for_o there_o be_v but_o few_o interpreter_n otherways_o expound_v it_o but_o of_o a_o civil_a eat_n and_o himself_o seem_v most_o confident_a in_o that_o argument_n in_o its_o place_n and_o therefore_o he_o shall_v have_v prove_v his_o main_a proposition_n namely_o that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o those_o in_o the_o church_n not_o excommunicate_a with_o who_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o eat_v in_o a_o civil_a sense_n and_o for_o to_o take_v it_o for_o not_o
public_a administration_n as_o their_o duty_n and_o with_o what_o conscience_n can_v such_o live_v upon_o the_o church_n maintenance_n that_o forsake_v their_o function_n and_o duty_n to_o their_o congregation_n and_o if_o they_o make_v the_o sacrament_n the_o distinguish_a ordinance_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n as_o the_o author_n call_v it_o some_o where_o than_o no_o wonder_n they_o be_v so_o tender_a who_o they_o admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o thus_o upon_o the_o matter_n they_o look_v upon_o the_o great_a part_n of_o their_o congregation_n as_o heathen_n unbeliever_n who_o the_o duty_n of_o christianity_n do_v not_o concern_v in_o another_o place_n he_o say_v a_o unregenerate_a person_n be_v far_o from_o be_v a_o disciple_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o not_o a_o christian_a for_o the_o disciple_n be_v first_o call_v christian_n at_o antioch_n and_o hence_o they_o devise_v way_n and_o bar_n to_o keep_v they_o from_o the_o lord_n table_n equal_a unto_o a_o heathen_a but_o i_o think_v they_o may_v easy_o perceive_v their_o mistake_n for_o baptism_n of_o old_a be_v account_v the_o only_a distinguish_a ordinance_n as_o circumcision_n between_o the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n and_o the_o only_a separate_n and_o distinguish_v ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n be_v juridical_a excommunication_n which_o they_o make_v no_o use_n of_o for_o mr._n saunders_n say_v they_o excommunicate_v none_o if_o they_o judge_v their_o people_n church-member_n and_o within_o if_o they_o have_v any_o scandalous_a crime_n against_o they_o why_o do_v they_o not_o begin_v reformation_n by_o cast_v out_o the_o obstinate_a according_a to_o rule_v they_o be_v all_o for_o admission_n of_o member_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v for_o eject_v in_o the_o work_n of_o reform_v if_o they_o be_v for_o admission_n into_o church_n communion_n they_o must_v begin_v with_o baptism_n and_o i_o think_v the_o term_n they_o stand_v upon_o in_o order_n to_o the_o supper_n will_v soon_o be_v make_v good_a in_o order_n to_o baptism_n of_o grow_a one_o then_o to_o those_o that_o be_v initiate_v into_o the_o church_n already_o by_o lawful_a baptism_n i_o have_v write_v enough_o to_o this_o already_o the_o truth_n be_v if_o my_o judgement_n fail_v not_o mr._n saund._n do_v but_o shuffle_v when_o he_o speak_v of_o our_o assembly_n to_o be_v true_a church_n some_o of_o they_o one_o while_o they_o be_v true_a church_n and_o have_v both_o matter_n and_o form_n which_o be_v the_o main_a essential_o of_o true_a church_n agree_v upon_o by_o all_o only_o he_o say_v but_o not_o without_o great_a disorder_n at_o present_a discipline_n be_v interrupt_v as_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v and_o he_o must_v needs_o speak_v this_o in_o behalf_n of_o our_o parochial_a church_n for_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n of_o which_o some_o he_o will_v undertake_v to_o prove_v to_o be_v true_a church_n against_o those_o that_o deny_v all_o for_o matter_n and_o form_n to_o be_v true_a pag._n 127._o and_o yet_o in_o the_o very_a same_o page_n he_o contradict_v himself_o in_o say_v we_o do_v not_o say_v our_o assembly_n be_v church_n as_o parish_n but_o that_o they_o be_v church_n in_o parish_n and_o in_o that_o sense_n parish_n church_n and_o in_o the_o page_n before_o he_o think_v the_o truth_n of_o some_o of_o our_o church_n as_o to_o their_o essence_n he_o can_v prove_v a_o church_n may_v be_v in_o a_o parish_n as_o well_o as_o in_o a_o country_n or_o city_n as_o ephesus_n corinth_n yea_o as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o world_n by_o this_o you_o may_v conceive_v what_o a_o good_a friend_n he_o be_v like_a to_o be_v to_o our_o parish_n church_n against_o anabaptist_n and_o brownist_n that_o although_o he_o account_v they_o rigid_a separatist_n they_o will_v grant_v that_o there_o be_v some_o parish_n in_o england_n that_o some_o that_o be_v godly_a and_o real_a member_n of_o christ_n dwell_v in_o they_o which_o they_o will_v confess_v be_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a church_n nay_o there_o may_v be_v a_o rigid_a separate_a church_n in_o fellowship_n and_o order_n in_o a_o parish_n as_o well_o as_o in_o a_o country_n city_n world_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n they_o be_v parish_n church_n what_o shift_n be_v these_o but_o why_o do_v he_o not_o speak_v plain_a to_o the_o case_n in_o question_n and_o clear_o speak_v his_o judgement_n of_o our_o parochial_a congregation_n as_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o adhere_v to_o the_o public_a ministry_n in_o general_n consist_v of_o good_a and_o bad_a nay_o the_o most_o very_a ignorant_a and_o in_o some_o thing_n or_o other_o either_o scandalous_a offensive_a or_o remiss_a will_v he_o prove_v such_o parish_n in_o their_o precinct_n and_o outward_a bound_n to_o have_v both_o the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o true_a church_n if_o he_o will_v do_v so_o i_o shall_v embrace_v he_o as_o friend_n of_o the_o church_n and_o one_o will_v think_v in_o his_o 128._o page_n that_o be_v his_o sense_n by_o what_o he_o infer_v for_o baptism_n say_v that_o all_o infant_n bear_v in_o our_o church_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v for_o congregational_a church_n as_o they_o be_v call_v baptize_v all_o their_o infant_n and_o then_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o sundry_a of_o the_o parent_n be_v ungodly_a who_o child_n we_o baptize_v he_o ask_v whether_o they_o can_v deny_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o any_o member_n how_o offensive_a soever_o before_o the_o sentence_n of_o cut_v off_o pass_v upon_o he_o so_o he_o answer_v of_o we_o these_o suppose_a wicked_a one_o whether_o as_o carnal_a or_o profane_a be_v not_o excommunicate_v what_o therefore_o shall_v hinder_v their_o child_n baptism_n hence_o he_o own_v all_o in_o our_o church_n that_o be_v baptize_v member_n christian_n and_o within_o for_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o plead_v the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n of_o those_o that_o be_v infidel_n and_o without_o that_o be_v no_o object_n of_o excommunication_n and_o yet_o in_o other_o place_n they_o be_v far_o from_o be_v disciple_n church-member_n etc._n etc._n nay_o he_o say_v as_o to_o baptism_n we_o suppose_v our_o church_n to_o be_v true_a but_o sick_a and_o corrupt_v pag._n 126_o but_o wherein_o corrupt_a if_o all_o be_v true_a you_o publish_v 129._o pag._n wherein_o you_o add_v to_o what_o you_o say_v before_o beside_o the_o child_n be_v not_o baptize_v in_o their_o parent_n right_o alone_a but_o in_o the_o church_n where_o the_o child_n be_v bear_v a_o member_n be_v holy_a federal_o by_o birth_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v baptize_v you_o prove_v the_o subject_n of_o our_o baptism_n lawful_a the_o minist●●_n and_o baptism_n itself_o for_o matter_n and_o manner_n i_o presume_v wherein_o be_v it_o sick_a and_o corrupt_a then_o i_o can_v wish_v you_o be_v more_o steady_a in_o your_o judgement_n &_o consonant_n to_o yourself_o and_o honest_a to_o your_o reader_n but_o to_o reply_v upon_o your_o own_o grant_n if_o all_o child_n bear_v in_o the_o church_n he_o holy_a federal_o by_o birth_n than_o it_o follow_v that_o all_o parent_n in_o the_o church_n of_o who_o they_o be_v so_o bear_v be_v believer_n for_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v that_o only_a of_o the_o child_n of_o believer_n 1_o cor._n 7.14_o and_o then_o if_o all_o parent_n in_o the_o church_n be_v believer_n why_o do_v you_o not_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o they_o for_o actual_a receive_n be_v the_o undoubted_a duty_n of_o all_o believer_n how_o you_o will_v deny_v the_o consequence_n i_o can_v tell_v i_o pray_v you_o consider_v well_o of_o my_o answer_n unto_o mr._n collings_n for_o i_o must_v be_v very_o brief_a to_o you_o again_o if_o our_o church_n be_v true_a church_n and_o all_o it_o consist_v of_o lawful_o admit_v into_o it_o than_o it_o will_v follow_v 1._o that_o while_o they_o be_v within_o they_o be_v to_o enjoy_v all_o external_a privilege_n of_o our_o church_n according_a unto_o gospel_n rule_n which_o be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o unto_o all_o church-member_n as_o such_o this_o be_v so_o rational_a and_o clear_a that_o all_o that_o separate_v from_o we_o own_o and_o practice_v it_o until_o a_o member_n by_o apostasy_n fall_v off_o or_o be_v juridical_o cast_v out_o of_o church_n privilege_n 2._o that_o pastor_n of_o true_a church_n be_v to_o attend_v their_o several_a flock_n in_o a_o constant_a exercise_n of_o the_o whole_a ministerial_a work_n they_o be_v design_v unto_o by_o the_o church_n that_o ordain_v they_o such_o 3._o that_o form_v a_o church_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o pastor_n and_o officer_n member_n in_o a_o true_a church_n already_o form_v according_a unto_o rule_n as_o to_o the_o essential_o thereof_o at_o least_o be_v a_o work_n not_o only_o superfluous_a and_o absurd_a but_o schismatical_a and_o pernicious_a break_v the_o peace_n and_o union_n of_o that_o
and_o which_o none_o ever_o be_v deny_v in_o the_o apostolical_a church_n during_o their_o abode_n in_o those_o church_n and_o to_o those_o that_o judge_v we_o lawful_o baptize_v and_o in_o a_o true_a church_n can_v rational_o refuse_v to_o admit_v they_o while_o they_o be_v within_o and_o again_o if_o the_o examination_n defend_v be_v a_o necessary_a duty_n why_o not_o bind_v unto_o all_o church-member_n of_o the_o same_o kind_n necessary_a duty_n use_v to_o be_v universal_a how_o come_v this_o to_o be_v restrain_v only_o to_o such_o as_o well_o may_v be_v suspect_v for_o incompetent_a knoweldge_n sure_o if_o it_o be_v a_o necessary_a duty_n it_o be_v incumbent_n upon_o all_o in_o the_o church_n or_o else_o to_o none_o at_o all_o if_o a_o minister_n be_v at_o liberty_n to_o dispense_v with_o some_o a_o gift_n may_v blind_v their_o eye_n at_o length_n but_o what_o scripture_n determine_v of_o the_o just_a measure_n of_o this_o competent_a knowledge_n that_o the_o ignorant_a be_v to_o be_v examine_v of_o without_o which_o they_o must_v be_v exclude_v the_o sacrament_n if_o no_o certain_a rule_n can_v be_v find_v to_o satisfy_v we_o in_o this_o how_o can_v man_n determine_v of_o it_o then_o it_o will_v follow_v as_o in_o all_o other_o doubtful_a or_o groundless_a thing_n so_o many_o man_n so_o many_o mind_n and_o will_v but_o add_v more_o fuel_n to_o our_o too_o many_o hot_a division_n already_o and_o know_v a_o unquestionable_a duty_n of_o public_a worship_n shall_v be_v make_v void_a upon_o such_o trifle_a uncertainty_n that_o not_o any_o be_v able_a to_o determine_v of_o seem_v to_o i_o too_o great_a a_o boldness_n in_o man_n thus_o as_o brief_o as_o i_o can_v i_o have_v not_o only_o question_v the_o question_n but_o have_v examine_v it_o in_o particular_n thereof_o by_o explain_v and_o yield_v something_o and_o by_o deny_v other_o thing_n intend_v by_o the_o author_n and_o i_o think_v the_o true_a question_n be_v this_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o all_o profess_v the_o true_a religion_n and_o admit_v into_o fellowship_n and_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n already_o by_o holy_a baptism_n and_o constant_o attend_v the_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n to_o give_v a_o account_n of_o their_o knowledge_n and_o faith_n upon_o the_o command_n and_o examination_n of_o their_o minister_n and_o officer_n and_o either_o to_o be_v admit_v or_o refuse_v the_o lord_n supper_n as_o these_o examiner_n shall_v approve_v or_o not_o approve_v of_o the_o measure_n truth_n and_o soundness_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o all_o and_o whether_o all_o that_o refuse_v to_o submit_v to_o this_o duty_n be_v just_o to_o be_v exclude_v the_o sacrament_n i_o dare_v say_v that_o be_v the_o proper_a question_n as_o to_o our_o case_n and_o now_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v the_o scripture_n and_o reason_n lay_v down_o by_o mr._n saunders_n to_o prove_v the_o affirmative_a namely_o that_o all_o be_v bind_v to_o stand_v to_o this_o trial_n before_o they_o can_v lawful_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n his_o quotation_n be_v many_o and_o he_o be_v something_o large_a upon_o they_o therefore_o i_o must_v desire_v the_o reader_n patience_n in_o my_o answer_n yet_o i_o will_v promise_v thou_o i_o have_v labour_v to_o avoid_v all_o tedious_a impertinence_n mr._n saunders_n first_o proof_n 1_o cor._n 14.40_o let_v all_o thing_n be_v do_v decent_o and_o in_o order_n this_o he_o say_v be_v a_o general_a rule_n serve_v till_o the_o world_n end_n to_o direct_v the_o church_n in_o matter_n of_o outward_a worship_n whereof_o this_o of_o admission_n to_o and_o exclusion_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v one_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o apostle_n as_o in_o the_o 11._o chapter_n answ_n 1_o reprove_v the_o church_n of_o cotinth_n for_o her_o division_n and_o disorder_n in_o their_o public_a assembly_n in_o the_o very_a time_n of_o administer_a the_o lord_n supper_n and_o prescribe_v they_o rule_n and_o order_n in_o special_a as_o to_o the_o reform_v of_o those_o profane_a disorder_n so_o in_o this_o chapter_n he_o take_v they_o up_o for_o some_o other_o disorder_v they_o be_v guilty_a of_o in_o the_o like_a assembly_n in_o the_o carry_v on_o of_o some_o other_o exercise_n of_o religion_n among_o themselves_o as_o verse_n 26._o do_v intimate_v how_o be_v it_o then_o brethren_n when_o you_o come_v together_o every_o one_o of_o you_o have_v a_o psalm_n have_v a_o doctrine_n have_v a_o tongue_n have_v a_o revelation_n have_v a_o interpretation_n let_v all_o thing_n be_v do_v to_o edify_v the_o fault_n be_v this_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o these_o different_a gift_n by_o different_a person_n they_o observe_v no_o order_n but_o make_v a_o confusion_n all_o exercise_v their_o particular_a gift_n at_o once_o that_o not_o any_o can_v be_v edify_v by_o another_o gift_n either_o for_o his_o own_o or_o because_o so_o many_o speak_v together_o that_o those_o that_o be_v hearer_n can_v not_o tell_v which_o to_o attend_v etc._n etc._n therefore_o after_o many_o particular_a direction_n prescribe_v to_o particular_a case_n lest_o the_o apostle_n shall_v omit_v some_o other_o thing_n that_o may_v fall_v out_o about_o the_o order_n of_o worship_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n he_o give_v they_o more_o general_a rule_n that_o may_v reach_v all_o other_o the_o like_a case_n let_v all_o thing_n be_v do_v decent_o and_o in_o order_n the_o apostle_n order_n speech_n and_o silence_n in_o their_o assembly_n so_o as_o all_o may_v be_v edify_v and_o comfort_v but_o here_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o admission_n to_o and_o exclusion_n from_o the_o sacrament_n nor_o any_o other_o ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n for_o they_o that_o be_v receive_v into_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v as_o christian_n to_o attend_v upon_o all_o ordinance_n of_o public_a worship_n while_o they_o be_v within_o this_o rule_n be_v give_v to_o direct_v we_o about_o some_o necessary_a circumstance_n in_o the_o order_n of_o necessary_a worship_n which_o other_o scripture_n enforce_v upon_o all_o in_o the_o church_n to_o observe_v as_o time_n and_o place_n and_o external_a order_n in_o all_o part_n of_o institute_n worship_n decent_a and_o reverend_a gesture_n silence_n and_o watch_n authorize_v administrator_n etc._n etc._n but_o mr._n saunders_n consequence_n be_v false_a for_o it_o be_v not_o such_o a_o general_a rule_n as_o he_o will_v have_v it_o namely_o to_o warrant_v a_o minister_n to_o receive_v of_o his_o people_n to_o duty_n of_o necessary_a worship_n who_o he_o please_v and_o refuse_v who_o he_o please_v be_v this_o to_o direct_v in_o matter_n or_o circumstance_n of_o outward_a worship_n to_o exclude_v christian_n from_o their_o necessary_a duty_n of_o worship_n if_o this_o will_v warrant_v his_o exclude_v from_o one_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n then_o from_o all_o at_o his_o pleasure_n if_o a_o person_n admission_n and_o exclusion_n be_v but_o a_o circumstance_n of_o outward_a worship_n than_o our_o bishop_n do_v well_o in_o forbid_v preach_v and_o hear_v in_o the_o afternoon_n and_o punish_v those_o that_o make_v conscience_n of_o their_o duty_n otherwise_o by_o this_o church-member_n be_v not_o leave_v at_o liberty_n to_o do_v what_o christ_n command_v but_o what_o the_o church_n command_v we_o may_v see_v how_o way_n of_o man_n own_o choose_n will_v warp_v they_o if_o this_o consequence_n have_v be_v publish_v by_o a_o bishop_n in_o their_o time_n christian_n will_v have_v startle_v at_o it_o but_o he_o go_v on_o and_o suppose_v they_o have_v no_o particular_a warrant_n in_o god_n word_n to_o bear_v they_o out_o yet_o say_v he_o if_o our_o course_n be_v holy_a and_o orderly_a it_o have_v warrant_n from_o that_o general_a rule_n 1._o answ_n that_o course_n can_v be_v holy_a and_o orderly_a that_o tend_v to_o a_o desperate_a schism_n in_o the_o church_n as_o i_o have_v hint_v already_o 2._o that_o tend_v to_o their_o people_n hindrance_n and_o exclusion_n from_o their_o necessary_a duty_n of_o worship_n as_o christian_n 3._o that_o be_v warrant_v by_o no_o scripture_n rule_v 4._o the_o discovery_n of_o the_o fallacy_n of_o your_o consequence_n from_o this_o general_a rule_n make_v your_o supposition_n nothing_o for_o your_o purpose_n the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o such_o a_o rational_a prudential_a decency_n and_o order_n in_o the_o church_n that_o may_v be_v necessary_a and_o yet_o no_o where_n in_o the_o scripture_n determine_v of_o as_o to_o particular_n either_o in_o command_v or_o forbid_v and_o will_v minister_n take_v up_o a_o order_n under_o the_o same_o notion_n to_o instruct_v ask_v question_n of_o their_o people_n to_o that_o end_n they_o may_v better_o profit_v by_o every_o ordinance_n and_o be_v encourage_v to_o a_o more_o diligent_a and_o frequent_a attendance_n thereon_o in_o hope_n of_o a_o blessing_n i_o conceive_v be_v near_a the_o mind_n of_o christ_n from_o this_o
text_n than_o what_o it_o be_v urge_v for_o next_o he_o assume_v something_o from_o what_o be_v grant_v by_o bishop_n abbot_n but_o that_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o text_n nor_o proof_n of_o his_o way_n pag._n 131._o the_o text_n he_o say_v will_v yield_v we_o this_o argument_n page_n 133._o where_o be_v no_o due_a order_n in_o sacramental_a administration_n saund._n mr._n saund._n there_o god_n word_n be_v not_o observe_v but_o where_o all_o be_v admit_v there_o be_v no_o order_n therefore_o in_o admission_n of_o all_o god_n will_v be_v not_o observe_v the_o major_n may_v be_v yield_v the_o minor_a be_v to_o be_v deny_v by_o distinguish_v 1._o answ_n where_o all_o be_v admit_v without_o distinction_n of_o christian_a and_o heathen_a baptize_v or_o unbaptise_v a_o member_n in_o communion_n and_o one_o under_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v no_o order_n it_o be_v true_a as_o be_v against_o many_o scripture_n but_o 2._o where_n all_o be_v admit_v that_o be_v of_o a_o true_a orthodox_n church_n and_o be_v baptize_v profess_v christian_n under_o the_o church_n indulgence_n the_o child_n of_o who_o himself_o account_v holy_a federal_o of_o these_o the_o minor_a be_v to_o be_v deny_v and_o so_o the_o argument_n fall_v for_o press_v of_o baptize_v christian_n or_o believer_n come_v under_o the_o obligation_n of_o this_o part_n of_o institute_n worship_n in_o the_o church_n as_o of_o any_o other_o the_o precept_n be_v commend_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o oft_o as_o you_o do_v this_o do_v it_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o 1_o cor._n 11.24_o 25._o and_o if_o a_o minister_n will_v be_v faithful_a to_o his_o charge_n he_o must_v teach_v and_o encourage_v all_o of_o his_o flock_n to_o observe_v and_o do_v all_o that_o christ_n command_v mat._n 28.20_o and_o how_o can_v they_o say_v as_o st._n paul_n do_v that_o they_o keep_v back_o nothing_o that_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o church_n when_o they_o keep_v back_o so_o necessary_a a_o ordinance_n from_o their_o respective_a flock_n the_o lord_n discover_v unto_o his_o servant_n their_o great_a neglect_n and_o error_n mr._n saunders_n add_v in_o proof_n of_o his_o minor_a thus_o where_o there_o be_v mixture_n and_o confusion_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a fit_a and_o unfit_a there_o be_v no_o order_n but_o where_o all_o be_v admit_v be_v this_o mixture_n ergo._n what_o be_v a_o evil_a mixture_n answ_n and_o against_o the_o word_n i_o have_v explain_v above_o and_o to_o call_v this_o mixture_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a as_o he_o call_v they_o evil_a in_o the_o church_n in_o reference_n to_o external_a ordinance_n and_o duty_n of_o worship_n and_o homage_n be_v very_o unsound_a and_o do_v accuse_v the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n of_o weakness_n in_o constitute_v his_o visible_a church_n so_o as_o to_o consist_v of_o good_a and_o bad_a fit_a and_o unfit_a but_o be_v not_o all_o thing_n sanctify_v by_o the_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o be_v not_o all_o thing_n clean_a to_o they_o in_o a_o federal_a sense_n be_v there_o not_o grace_n and_o mercy_n enough_o in_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n make_v to_o the_o profess_v church_n to_o cure_v the_o worst_a god_n blessing_n concur_v with_o the_o necessary_a mean_n use_v to_o that_o end_n let_v not_o man_n be_v divide_v where_o god_n join_v by_o his_o own_o constitution_n and_o merciful_a gift_n comprehend_v the_o natural_a child_n of_o all_o parent_n in_o the_o church_n with_o the_o church_n for_o the_o gather_n of_o his_o elect_a out_o of_o they_o all_o to_o call_v this_o a_o mixture_n in_o a_o evil_a sense_n as_o corrupt_v the_o church_n and_o ordinance_n be_v a_o slander_n and_o a_o unjust_a reproach_n bring_v upon_o the_o church_n by_o rash_a and_o inconsiderate_a head_n care_n be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o the_o exercise_n of_o true_a discipline_n for_o the_o amendment_n of_o the_o scandalous_a as_o be_v provide_v in_o all_o my_o writing_n but_o there_o be_v nothing_o can_v be_v say_v otherwise_o to_o exclude_v any_o in_o the_o church_n from_o necessary_a duty_n of_o institute_n worship_n and_o therefore_o the_o vanity_n of_o that_o self_n flattery_n be_v discover_v in_o his_o 134._o pag._n wherein_o he_o applaud_v their_o course_n and_o way_n as_o tend_v to_o advance_v order_n and_o holiness_n in_o the_o church_n which_o indeed_o they_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o breach_n of_o very_o great_a command_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o set_v up_o this_o pretend_a order_n and_o holiness_n let_v they_o consider_v better_o of_o it_o and_o free_v themselves_o from_o what_o i_o charge_v they_o with_o if_o they_o can_v tell_v how_o or_o else_o make_v good_a what_o they_o promise_v in_o return_v from_o their_o way_n of_o schism_n to_o their_o pastoral_n duty_n to_o their_o respective_a flock_n his_o second_o proof_n be_v jer._n 15.19_o if_o thou_o take_v the_o precious_a from_o the_o vile_a then_o shall_v thou_o be_v as_o my_o mouth_n in_o short_a to_o give_v a_o few_o hint_n of_o the_o true_a sense_n before_o i_o examine_v he_o answ_n the_o people_n of_o judah_n and_o jerusalem_n be_v in_o a_o most_o desperate_a apostasy_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o king_n zedekiah_n the_o time_n of_o this_o holy_a prophet_n prophesy_v for_o they_o have_v forsake_v the_o lord_n and_o his_o prescribe_a worship_n which_o but_o a_o little_a before_o godly_a josiah_n have_v put_v they_o in_o possession_n of_o according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n leave_v in_o write_v by_o moses_n but_o his_o son_n be_v wicked_a turn_v to_o idolatry_n and_o all_o the_o people_n with_o he_o run_v a_o whore_v after_o strange_a god_n insomuch_o that_o the_o lord_n complain_v of_o they_o according_a to_o thy_o city_n be_v thy_o god_n oh_o judah_n for_o which_o and_o many_o other_o of_o their_o abominable_a do_n the_o lord_n send_v his_o servant_n jeremy_n to_o denounce_v god_n judgement_n against_o they_o especial_o that_o judgement_n of_o their_o be_v subdue_v by_o the_o king_n of_o babylon_n and_o carry_v away_o captive_n by_o he_o this_o message_n do_v so_o vex_v they_o that_o they_o whole_o set_v themselves_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o prophet_n insomuch_o that_o the_o good_a man_n be_v so_o tire_v out_o with_o their_o revile_n and_o threat_n that_o out_o of_o his_o frailty_n he_o grow_v into_o a_o passionate_a discontent_n question_v the_o message_n that_o he_o have_v receive_v from_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o stagger_v at_o god_n promise_n of_o protection_n make_v in_o particular_a to_o he_o chap._n 1.8_o here_o he_o charge_v god_n rash_o as_o if_o he_o have_v be_v to_o he_o as_o a_o liar_n and_o as_o water_n that_o fail_v chap._n 15.18_o this_o 19_o verse_n be_v a_o answer_n to_o jeremiahs_n rash_a charge_n therefore_o thus_o say_v the_o lord_n if_o thou_o return_v or_o repent_v then_o will_v i_o bring_v thou_o again_o and_o thou_o shall_v stand_v before_o i_o if_o thou_o take_v away_o the_o precious_a from_o the_o vile_a then_o shall_v thou_o be_v as_o my_o word_n let_v they_o return_v to_o thou_o and_o submit_v to_o the_o truth_n of_o that_o message_n i_o have_v send_v by_o thou_o but_o do_v not_o thou_o return_v to_o they_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o extreme_a unreasonable_a opposition_n they_o raise_v against_o thou_o for_o i_o will_v be_v as_o good_a to_o thou_o as_o ever_o i_o promise_v to_o be_v for_o i_o will_v make_v thou_o to_o this_o people_n a_o strong_a brazen_a wall_n and_o they_o shall_v fight_v against_o thou_o but_o they_o shall_v not_o prevail_v etc._n etc._n v._n 20._o jeremiahs_n duty_n be_v to_o bear_v up_o himself_o in_o discharge_n of_o the_o message_n send_v upon_o with_o courage_n constancy_n faithfulness_n against_o all_o discouragement_n meet_v with_o whatever_o he_o be_v to_o denounce_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n against_o they_o for_o their_o provoke_a sin_n to_o bring_v they_o to_o repentance_n or_o leave_v they_o without_o excuse_n and_o in_o so_o do_v his_o duty_n the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n speak_v by_o he_o shall_v have_v a_o answerable_a effect_n upon_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n some_o shall_v believe_v it_o and_o reform_v and_o yield_v themselves_o voluntary_o to_o the_o king_n of_o babylon_n and_o so_o live_v other_o shall_v be_v harden_v and_o accuse_v the_o prophet_n of_o revolt_a from_o his_o own_o nation_n and_o hold_v intelligence_n with_o a_o enemy_n and_o discourage_v the_o people_n from_o their_o arm_n by_o persuade_v they_o to_o yield_v and_o live_v and_o so_o set_v themselves_o against_o he_o and_o reject_v his_o word_n and_o perish_v thus_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n make_v a_o separation_n for_o the_o save_n of_o some_o and_o destruction_n of_o other_o i_o take_v it_o and_o so_o the_o stream_n of_o interpreter_n run_v but_o to_o this_o mr._n saunders_n answer_v if_o this_o text_n allow_v only_o a_o
belong_v to_o their_o office_n towards_o you_o as_o such_o that_o must_v give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n of_o their_o be_v diligent_a and_o faithful_a in_o the_o work_n they_o be_v send_v to_o perform_v therefore_o he_o will_v have_v the_o people_n to_o be_v willing_a and_o obedient_a unto_o they_o for_o their_o encouragement_n in_o the_o work_n that_o they_o may_v do_v it_o with_o joy_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v certain_a both_o minister_n and_o people_n must_v give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n the_o minister_n of_o his_o faithful_a discharge_n of_o his_o duty_n in_o relation_n to_o his_o people_n and_o the_o people_n of_o they_o according_o for_o if_o soul_n miscarry_v for_o his_o unfaithfulnesse_n in_o not_o warn_v they_o of_o the_o danger_n they_o make_v themselves_o guilty_a of_o the_o blood_n of_o soul_n otherwise_o do_v their_o duty_n faithful_o they_o be_v free_a from_o the_o blood_n of_o all_o but_o mr._n saunders_n will_v have_v it_o thus_o that_o minister_n must_v give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o their_o people_n i_o think_v or_o if_o he_o mean_v they_o must_v take_v knowledge_n of_o their_o spiritual_a estate_n that_o they_o may_v know_v how_o to_o apply_v themselves_o towards_o they_o both_o in_o private_a and_o public_a with_o seasonable_a word_n etc._n etc._n in_o reference_n to_o their_o own_o account_n i_o see_v no_o great_a hurt_n in_o that_o nor_o do_v it_o prove_v any_o such_o thing_n the_o text_n be_v quote_v for_o but_o if_o he_o shall_v argue_v as_o some_o other_o do_v from_o this_o text_n minister_n must_v give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n of_o their_o people_n therefore_o the_o people_n must_v give_v a_o account_n of_o themselves_o to_o their_o minister_n answ_n 1._o as_o before_o by_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n as_o respect_v their_o personal_a condition_n whether_o regenerate_v or_o not_o or_o whether_o they_o have_v profit_v or_o not_o but_o of_o their_o own_o duty_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o people_n good_a 2._o grant_v it_o as_o themselves_o will_v the_o consequence_n be_v not_o clear_a because_o a_o minister_n account_v unto_o god_n and_o a_o people_n account_n to_o their_o minister_n stand_v at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n so_o wide_a a_o difference_n but_o why_o shall_v this_o be_v require_v of_o the_o people_n more_o in_o order_n to_o the_o sacrament_n than_o prayer_n or_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o salvation_n prove_v that_o the_o minister_n be_v to_o give_v a_o account_n to_o god_n only_o how_o he_o prepare_v and_o who_o he_o admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n restrain_v the_o text_n to_o that_o particular_a only_o but_o the_o text_n he_o say_v be_v for_o their_o purpose_n because_o it_o urge_v to_o activity_n in_o discipline_n as_o in_o preach_v a●d_v call_v aloud_o for_o compliance_n from_o the_o people_n 1._o answ_n grant_v it_o true_a what_o he_o say_v it_o urge_v to_o activity_n in_o discipline_n than_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v that_o the_o church_n thus_o write_v unto_o be_v in_o actual_a possession_n of_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n and_o holy_a discipline_n but_o do_v it_o hence_o follow_v that_o they_o themselves_o be_v such_o ruler_n and_o impower_v with_o the_o exercise_n of_o holy_a discipline_n i_o think_v no_o without_o better_a proof_n try_v how_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o the_o exercise_n of_o discipline_n be_v a_o inseparable_a power_n of_o every_o minister_n and_o that_o he_o be_v as_o much_o bind_v to_o draw_v out_o this_o power_n into_o act_n at_o all_o time_n as_o his_o preach_a power_n if_o so_o 1._o then_o the_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v undisciplined_a at_o all_o so_o long_o as_o she_o have_v minister_n but_o all_o the_o fault_n lie_v in_o this_o the_o minister_n negligence_n in_o not_o exercise_v act_n of_o jurisdiction_n as_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o do_v and_o impower_v with_o 2._o then_o a_o minister_n be_v absolute_a and_o independent_a of_o himself_o and_o not_o accountable_a to_o any_o church_n power_n in_o his_o male-administrations_a of_o that_o power_n but_o to_o jesus_n christ_n alone_o 3._o then_o all_o have_v this_o power_n that_o be_v minister_n and_o so_o at_o liberty_n to_o act_v as_o their_o several_a humour_n move_v they_o and_o must_v be_v leave_v to_o this_o liberty_n as_o they_o be_v minister_n be_v once_o ordain_v but_o who_o can_v be_v so_o blind_a as_o not_o to_o see_v into_o what_o a_o gulf_n of_o division_n tyranny_n and_o confusion_n that_o error_n if_o put_v into_o practice_n will_v involve_v the_o whole_a and_o most_o miserable_a be_v the_o condition_n of_o those_o people_n that_o be_v oppress_v with_o minister_n of_o such_o impudent_a insolent_a principle_n when_o draw_v into_o act_n it_o concern_v the_o christian_a magistrate_n to_o relieve_v such_o a_o people_n but_o to_o proceed_v to_o his_o next_o called_z the_o 11_o 12_o 13_o 14_o 15._o proof_n pag._n 153._o from_o levit._n 13.5_o 2_o chron._n 23.19_o joel_n 3.17_o nahum_n 1.15_o zach._n 14.21_o for_o the_o two_o first_o he_o plead_v a_o equity_n in_o they_o which_o be_v argumentative_a the_o three_o last_o he_o say_v be_v against_o the_o impure_a and_o horrid_a mixture_n which_o in_o our_o day_n be_v without_o sufficient_a check_n in_o most_o assembly_n do_v but_o read_v read_v over_o his_o quotation_n answ_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o answer_v he_o yourselves_o his_o 1._o speak_v of_o the_o uncleanness_n of_o leprofie_n and_o how_o he_o be_v to_o be_v shut_v up_o seven_o day_n now_o during_o this_o time_n he_o can_v come_v to_o no_o ordinance_n therefore_o ignorant_a person_n in_o the_o gospel_n church_n must_v not_o come_v to_o the_o sacrament_n a_o goodly_a equitable_a consequence_n indeed_o but_o i_o have_v be_v large_a in_o confute_v the_o same_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o mr._n collings_n whither_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n as_o also_o his_o 2._o be_v there_o full_o speak_v to_o his_o last_o three_o be_v so_o impertinent_a that_o it_o be_v but_o lose_a labour_n to_o repeat_v the_o text_n for_o they_o be_v special_a promise_n peculiar_a to_o the_o jew_n upon_o their_o return_n from_o the_o babylonish_n captivity_n 1._o the_o temple_n shall_v be_v build_v again_o and_o no_o more_o be_v defile_v with_o the_o uncircumcised_a heathen_a and_o this_o he_o apply_v to_o we_o as_o if_o the_o unregenerate_a ignorant_a and_o offend_a brethren_n that_o be_v of_o the_o church_n be_v mean_v to_o be_v these_o uncircumcised_a heathen_n alien_n and_o stranger_n that_o pollute_v the_o church_n communion_n now_o as_o they_o the_o holy_a temple_n and_o sanctuary_n then_o though_o himself_o do_v grant_v we_o to_o be_v within_o and_o of_o the_o gospel_n church_n and_o their_o child_n holy_a federal_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n but_o this_o be_v so_o absurd_a that_o it_o tire_v i_o i_o have_v speak_v so_o much_o to_o this_o already_o but_o he_o say_v god_n have_v promise_v this_o happiness_n unto_o his_o people_n under_o the_o gospel_n that_o there_o shall_v come_v no_o more_o in_o to_o they_o the_o uncircumcised_a and_o unclean_a now_o if_o stranger_n man_n of_o belial_n not_o endure_v the_o yoke_n of_o christ_n shall_v still_o be_v mix_v with_o god_n people_n how_o be_v this_o promise_n make_v good_a he_o ask_v this_o promise_n isai_n 52.1_o answ_n be_v make_v direct_o to_o the_o jew_n church_n after_o their_o return_n from_o their_o captivity_n and_o by_o the_o uncircumcised_a and_o unclean_a be_v mean_v heathenish_a uncleanness_n they_o shall_v no_o more_o invade_v their_o land_n and_o defile_v holy_a thing_n as_o before_o but_o i_o never_o be_v acquaint_v with_o any_o such_o promise_n as_o himself_o tell_v his_o reader_n of_o make_v to_o gospel_n time_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o stranger_n in_o his_o sense_n and_o meaning_n that_o be_v no_o scandalous_a sinner_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n no_o tare_n among_o wheat_n no_o mixture_n of_o good_a and_o bad_a i_o will_v have_v he_o show_v we_o such_o a_o promise_n as_o that_o and_o that_o it_o respect_v the_o gospel_n church_n at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o every_o place_n where_o god_n have_v his_o church_n which_o be_v necessary_a to_o make_v good_a or_o else_o how_o can_v our_o author_n apply_v it_o to_o this_o period_n of_o time_n and_o to_o our_o church_n in_o particular_a beside_o 1._o how_o do_v it_o call_v into_o question_n all_o church_n of_o the_o gospel_n that_o ever_o be_v for_o there_o be_v scandalous_a and_o wicked_a person_n in_o they_o all_o 2._o it_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o wisdom_n and_o pleasure_n of_o god_n who_o have_v constitute_v the_o church_n in_o such_o mercy_n and_o grace_n that_o all_o that_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v it_o likely_a that_o such_o admission_n do_v intend_v such_o a_o purity_n all_o be_v so_o corrupt_a by_o nature_n as_o the_o church_n maintain_v 3._o
the_o very_a ordinance_n set_v up_o in_o the_o church_n to_o convert_v the_o promise_n make_v to_o the_o church_n in_o order_n to_o that_o end_n and_o our_o own_o experience_n of_o some_o fruit_n thereof_o may_v discover_v the_o vanity_n of_o that_o conceit_n namely_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o regenerate_a or_o wicked_a in_o the_o church_n and_o he_o that_o shall_v resist_v such_o manifest_a demonstration_n i_o think_v he_o understand_v but_o little_a of_o the_o truth_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n and_o the_o blessing_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n that_o be_v confer_v upon_o sinner_n in_o the_o church_n from_o it_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n why_o be_v it_o not_o gospel-like_a for_o sinner_n in_o the_o church_n to_o partake_v of_o all_o gospel_n ordinance_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v the_o gospel_n itself_o but_o good_a news_n to_o sinner_n and_o what_o do_v all_o the_o ordinance_n tend_v to_o but_o to_o bring_v sinner_n home_o to_o god_n and_o i_o hope_v he_o be_v no_o enemy_n to_o holiness_n as_o our_o author_n intimate_v pag._n 154._o that_o will_v have_v minister_n to_o allow_v jesus_n christ_n the_o liberty_n of_o his_o own_o appointment_n in_o the_o church_n to_o unite_v unto_o himself_o all_o those_o he_o dear_o love_v and_o dye_v for_o but_o mr._n saunders_n tell_v we_o that_o god_n look_v now_o for_o a_o more_o real_a and_o spiritual_a people_n and_o will_v not_o own_o such_o for_o his_o people_n that_o be_v graceless_a what_o ever_o their_o profession_n may_v be_v quote_v camero_n but_o what_o a_o strange_a assertion_n be_v this_o answ_n and_o how_o derogatory_n to_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n and_o diminish_v the_o grace_n and_o goodness_n thereof_o to_o sinner_n in_o the_o church_n who_o be_v the_o people_n of_o god_n and_o holy_a federal_o by_o birth_n as_o himself_o confess_v and_o will_v god_n now_o disow_v they_o for_o his_o people_n that_o be_v graceless_a by_o nature_n then_o we_o may_v cast_v all_o infant_n out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o so_o from_o baptism_n for_o it_o will_v hardly_o be_v make_v good_a that_o infant_n by_o nature_n have_v real_a inherent_a grace_n then_o what_o hope_n be_v there_o leave_v for_o graceless_a profess_v people_n under_o the_o ordinance_n if_o god_n will_v not_o own_o such_o they_o be_v leave_v destitute_a of_o all_o hope_n for_o who_o can_v own_o god_n and_o come_v to_o he_o by_o the_o power_n of_o grace_n until_o the_o lord_n own_o they_o for_o his_o people_n by_o give_v they_o that_o grace_n first_o but_o what_o reason_n can_v any_o of_o sober_a principle_n give_v that_o god_n will_v not_o now_o in_o the_o gospel_n time_n own_o such_o a_o graceless_a profess_v people_n for_o his_o people_n as_o he_o have_v do_v before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o flesh_n for_o 1._o be_v not_o jesus_n christ_n the_o author_n and_o procurer_n of_o all_o spiritual_a blessing_n to_o fall_a man_n and_o always_o the_o same_o yesterday_o to_o day_n and_o for_o ever_o 2._o and_o be_v not_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n as_o to_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o always_o the_o same_o to_o the_o visible_a profess_v church_n and_o to_o their_o seed_n be_v it_o straighten_v in_o respect_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n towards_o man_n since_o the_o come_n of_o our_o lord_n more_o than_o before_o or_o do_v it_o run_v upon_o such_o term_n now_o as_o that_o not_o any_o may_v come_v under_o the_o outward_a administration_n that_o have_v not_o real_a grace_n or_o will_v you_o have_v none_o come_v under_o gospel_n worship_n and_o duty_n that_o profess_v christianity_n that_o have_v not_o real_a grace_n what_o rock_n do_v that_o assertion_n dash_v against_o 3._o be_v not_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o same_o all_o be_v grass_v into_o the_o same_o olive_n and_o vine_n and_o plant_v together_o into_o the_o same_o body_n by_o baptism_n as_o the_o jew_n by_o circumcision_n do_v you_o think_v that_o a_o different_a administration_n only_o make_v such_o a_o different_a church_n and_o consequent_o require_v such_o a_o different_a subject_n in_o admission_n into_o it_o as_o you_o import_v what_o be_v there_o in_o the_o old_a administration_n that_o shall_v in_o reason_n indulge_v so_o great_a a_o latitude_n as_o to_o the_o subject_n more_o than_o in_o the_o new_a those_o that_o can_v tell_v we_o wherein_o the_o mystery_n of_o this_o lie_v shall_v do_v well_o to_o give_v we_o the_o discovery_n for_o my_o part_n i_o must_v confess_v i_o judge_v both_o the_o old_a and_o also_o the_o new_a mere_o external_a as_o in_o the_o letter_n both_o fit_v for_o reasonable_a man_n as_o instrumental_a to_o convey_v a_o blessing_n of_o grace_n unto_o who_o the_o lord_n will_v of_o those_o that_o in_o obedience_n yield_v what_o homage_n they_o be_v able_a unto_o their_o lord_n whosoever_o enter_v this_o great_a covenant_n of_o grace_n that_o the_o visible_a church_n always_o have_v and_o be_v in_o possession_n of_o come_v always_o under_o the_o restipulation_n thereof_o as_o his_o duty_n which_o be_v this_o to_o observe_v and_o do_v all_o that_o the_o lord_n require_v to_o be_v do_v at_o that_o time_n and_o age_n that_o any_o person_n live_v in_o so_o shall_v you_o be_v his_o people_n and_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v your_o god_n the_o lord_n covenant_n with_o his_o church_n do_v always_o oblige_v those_o that_o have_v enter_v into_o it_o to_o all_o that_o obedience_n that_o at_o present_a be_v in_o force_n by_o the_o lord_n a_o jew_n by_o nature_n be_v under_o all_o that_o god_n command_v they_o and_o a_o christian_a by_o nature_n be_v under_o all_o that_o god_n command_v now_o a_o jew_n by_o nature_n and_o profession_n have_v all_o the_o church_n privilege_n of_o a_o jew_n in_o like_a manner_n a_o christian_a by_o nature_n and_o profession_n have_v all_o the_o church_n privilege_n of_o a_o christian_a only_o with_o great_a advantage_n forasmuch_o as_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n be_v more_o clear_a and_o spiritual_a tend_v more_o unto_o the_o spiritual_a profit_n and_o edification_n of_o the_o whole_a and_o what_o reason_n beside_o the_o good_a pleasure_n of_o god_n can_v any_o man_n give_v why_o the_o lord_n shall_v vary_v in_o these_o different_a administration_n most_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o since_o christ_n be_v manifest_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o justify_v in_o the_o spirit_n and_o ascend_v into_o glory_n great_a have_v be_v the_o advantage_n both_o of_o know_v and_o believe_v in_o the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o comparison_n of_o attain_v unto_o knowledge_n and_o faith_n in_o christ_n by_o those_o that_o have_v but_o some_o dark_a obscure_a discovery_n of_o he_o by_o type_n and_o shadow_n for_o man_n now_o to_o say_v that_o god_n look_v for_o more_o at_o our_o hand_n then_o of_o they_o be_v rational_a but_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o lord_n in_o gospel_n time_n will_v not_o own_o a_o christ-professing_a people_n that_o have_v not_o real_a grace_n be_v altogethere_o groundless_a and_o a_o little_a too_o peremptory_o speak_v without_o better_a proof_n than_o camero_n and_o it_o be_v too_o harsh_a to_o affirm_v that_o a_o mere_a want_n of_o real_a grace_n do_v discovenant_n a_o christian_a profess_v people_n and_o that_o god_n will_v disow_v they_o for_o his_o people_n upon_o that_o account_n they_o be_v holy_a federal_o by_o birth_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n baptize_v and_o thereby_o put_v in_o possession_n of_o the_o sacramental_a seal_n which_o himself_o will_v grant_v and_o will_v the_o same_o man_n but_o argue_v as_o rational_o from_o the_o state_n of_o the_o jew_n church_n as_o touch_v grow_v once_o as_o they_o do_v of_o infant_n this_o controversy_n about_o who_o shall_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o sacrament_n will_v have_v be_v frivolous_a but_o now_o mr._n saunders_n have_v do_v with_o the_o text_n which_o he_o say_v conclude_v positive_o for_o their_o practice_n in_o gather_v and_o distinguish_v their_o communicant_n by_o examine_v what_o all_o these_o light_n will_v do_v be_v set_v up_o together_o who_o know_v so_o likewise_o answ_n 1_o i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o examine_v of_o what_o you_o have_v conclude_v from_o these_o several_a text_n for_o your_o way_n and_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v give_v both_o yourself_o and_o every_o sober_a unprejudiced_a reader_n clear_a and_o rational_a demonstration_n that_o there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o one_o of_o these_o 15._o text_n that_o will_v prove_v examnation_n a_o necessary_a duty_n unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o it_o be_v state_v nor_o have_v mr._n saunders_n so_o much_o as_o apply_v they_o for_o the_o most_o part_n to_o prove_v the_o question_n so_o little_o be_v his_o own_o confidence_n of_o the_o pertinentnesse_n of_o his_o own_o quotation_n for_o some_o of_o they_o he_o have_v apply_v to_o prove_v suspension_n and_o other_o to_o prove_v excommunication_n which_o in_o order_n