Selected quad for the lemma: duty_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
duty_n	command_v	forbid_v	sin_n	4,155	5	5.7209	4	true

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81720	A boundary to the Holy Mount, or a barre against free admission to the Lords Supper. In answer to an humble vindication of free admission to the Lords Supper. Published by Mr. Humphrey minister of Froome in Somersetshire. Which humble vindication, though it profess much of piety and conscience, yet upon due triall and examination, is found worthy of suspension, if not of a greater censure. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap London.	R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669.	1653 (1653)	Wing D2129; Thomason E1314_2; ESTC R209198	85,461	218

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that_o presence_n not_o participation_n be_v requisite_a 3._o his_o simile_n be_v very_o lame_a nor_o do_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o we_o may_v give_v aqua_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la to_o a_o die_a man_n therefore_o we_o may_v give_v calix_n aquavitae_fw-la to_o a_o dead_a man_n since_o a_o die_a man_n have_v life_n to_o be_v preserve_v not_o so_o a_o dead_a man_n in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o reply_n in_o his_o three_o edition_n he_o add_v three_o page_n by_o way_n of_o explication_n pag._n 69._o which_o i_o must_v take_v a_o little_a pain_n to_o scan_v and_o sift_v and_o 1._o he_o make_v confirmation_n of_o the_o covenant_n a_o primary_n end_n confirmation_n of_o our_o faith_n a_o secuodary_n end_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n answ_n i_o wish_v mr._n h._n do_v not_o show_v himself_o as_o little_a skill_a in_o morality_n as_o in_o logic_n let_v he_o tell_v i_o serious_o for_o no_o doubt_n be_v master_n of_o art_n he_o have_v spend_v some_o time_n at_o the_o university_n in_o ethic_n 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as_o it_o be_v not_o without_o its_o fruit_n and_o so_o have_v a_o right_n unto_o the_o ordinance_n come_v as_o prepare_o as_o we_o can_v and_o bewail_v our_o unpreparedness_n may_v find_v grace_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n even_o to_o the_o bestow_n of_o a_o special_a justify_v faith_n for_o our_o inward_a effectual_a conversion_n in_o the_o use_n of_o it_o the_o main_a harvest_n in_o this_o field_n of_o boaz_n belong_v to_o his_o own_o reaper_n yet_o i_o will_v afford_v some_o glean_n for_o poor_a ruth_n the_o moabitess_n and_o suffer_v many_o a_o doubtful_a penitent_o incline_v yet_o unregenerate_a soul_n to_o come_v up_o even_o to_o the_o sheaf_n hope_v my_o fellow_n labourer_n will_v not_o grudge_v at_o it_o though_o i_o have_v let_v fall_v some_o handful_n too_o on_o purpose_n for_o they_o answ_n it_o be_v a_o novel_a expression_n to_o say_v we_o be_v baptize_v into_o the_o church_n we_o read_v of_o baptise_v into_o christ_n but_o not_o in_o scripture_n of_o baptise_v into_o the_o church_n be_v it_o not_o as_o absurd_a baptizari_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la as_o credere_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la 2._o how_o many_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o breed_v up_o to_o a_o general_a faith_n but_o be_v as_o ignorant_a as_o the_o very_a indian_n that_o never_o hear_v of_o christ_n 3._o what_o fruit_n have_v many_o breed_v up_o to_o a_o general_a faith_n unless_o it_o be_v open_a profaneness_n scoff_v at_o religion_n and_o duty_n both_o public_a and_o private_a shall_v not_o these_o against_o his_o general_a assertion_n be_v exclude_v by_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o own_o present_a verdict_n 4._o what_o natural_a man_n ever_o do_v his_o utmost_a to_o come_v prepare_o and_o therefore_o by_o mr._n h._n his_o own_o principle_n hold_v forth_o to_o this_o paragraph_n 1._o ought_v not_o to_o receive_v and_o 2._o can_v be_v convert_v by_o receive_v 3._o his_o allusion_n to_o the_o case_n of_o ruth_n be_v 1._o absurd_a 2._o impertinent_a absurd_a in_o that_o he_o say_v the_o main_a 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