Selected quad for the lemma: duty_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
duty_n	church_n	true_a	visible_a	1,038	5	9.2291	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A81720	A boundary to the Holy Mount, or a barre against free admission to the Lords Supper. In answer to an humble vindication of free admission to the Lords Supper. Published by Mr. Humphrey minister of Froome in Somersetshire. Which humble vindication, though it profess much of piety and conscience, yet upon due triall and examination, is found worthy of suspension, if not of a greater censure. By Roger Drake minister of Peters Cheap London.	R. D. (Roger Drake), 1608-1669.	1653 (1653)	Wing D2129; Thomason E1314_2; ESTC R209198	85,461	218

skilled_a in_o sophistry_n then_o in_o logic_n and_o can_v better_o deceive_v then_o convince_v if_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n he_o will_v make_v free_a admission_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o essential_a mark_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n let_v he_o see_v how_o he_o be_v confute_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o our_o church_n under_o the_o prelate_n in_o which_o many_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n that_o be_v neither_o child_n fool_n nor_o excommunicate_v and_o that_o without_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o essence_n of_o our_o church_n as_o be_v before_o instance_a yea_o the_o very_a rubric_n before_o the_o communion_n in_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n show_v the_o fondness_n of_o this_o opinion_n the_o curate_n be_v there_o authorize_v to_o suspend_v scandalous_a and_o malicious_a person_n without_o i_o hope_v any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o true_a be_v of_o our_o church_n yea_o the_o very_a exhortation_n in_o the_o communion_n command_v such_o to_o bewail_v 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but_o the_o way_n to_o that_o high_a will_n mr._n h._n deny_v that_o the_o well-being_n of_o a_o church_n lie_v much_o in_o its_o purity_n and_o this_o in_o the_o knowledge_n and_o conversation_n of_o the_o member_n and_o whether_o our_o way_n or_o he_o conduce_v more_o to_o this_o let_v all_o the_o world_n judge_n let_v mr._n h._n tell_v i_o ingenuous_o whether_o he_o will_v have_v all_o gross_o ignorant_a person_n excommunicate_v i_o hope_v he_o be_v more_o charitable_a and_o think_v they_o rather_o need_v instruction_n and_o be_v not_o this_o previous_a trial_n before_o the_o eldership_n use_v of_o purpose_n that_o ignorant_a person_n may_v be_v put_v upon_o enquiry_n after_o knowledge_n as_o ever_o they_o value_v the_o privilege_n of_o sacramental_a communion_n nor_o be_v the_o proper_a end_n of_o it_o exclusion_n from_o but_o preparation_n of_o all_o sort_n for_o the_o sacrament_n for_o which_o in_o few_o month_n by_o god_n grace_n we_o dare_v undertake_v to_o fit_v the_o mean_a if_o they_o will_v be_v rule_v by_o we_o contra_fw-la if_o mr._n h._n his_o free_a admission_n obtain_v universal_o without_o check_n see_v if_o in_o a_o few_o year_n a_o chaos_n of_o darkness_n and_o ignorance_n do_v not_o overspread_v the_o face_n of_o this_o glorious_a church_n but_o i_o see_v i_o must_v contract_v for_o his_o confirmation_n of_o this_o argument_n from_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o field_n etc._n etc._n which_o he_o style_v a_o invincible_a support_n pag._n 17._o alas_o poor_a man_n how_o feeble_a must_v he_o needs_o be_v when_o his_o best_a strength_n be_v but_o weakness_n if_o the_o tare_n and_o wheat_n must_v be_v separate_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n than_o i_o pray_v what_o will_v become_v of_o excommunication_n it_o be_v apparent_a by_o the_o parable_n 1._o that_o the_o tare_n be_v sow_v by_o the_o carelessness_n of_o the_o servant_n or_o other_o church_n member_n matth._n 13.25_o 2._o that_o the_o prohibition_n to_o take_v they_o away_o be_v not_o absolute_a but_o only_o with_o a_o caution_n or_o proviso_n verse_n 29._o and_o in_o truth_n so_o tender_a be_v the_o lord_n of_o the_o wheat_n that_o he_o have_v rather_o many_o tare_n shall_v stand_v than_o one_o ear_n of_o corn_n shall_v be_v pluck_v up_o where_o therefore_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o wrong_v the_o wheat_n better_a let_v the_o tare_n stand_v not_o so_o if_o we_o can_v separate_v they_o without_o prejudice_n to_o yea_o with_o advantage_n of_o the_o wheat_n and_o therefore_o a_o bare_a suspicion_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o keep_v any_o from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o by_o gross_a ignorance_n or_o scandal_n it_o must_v appear_v he_o be_v a_o tear_v and_o not_o wheat_n before_o he_o can_v be_v suspend_v judicial_o for_o as_o for_o negative_a suspension_n before_o trial_n that_o be_v not_o proper_o a_o church_n censure_n no_o more_o than_o the_o non-admitting_a of_o infant_n or_o distract_a person_n but_o only_a a_o prudentiall_a forbear_n to_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o a_o person_n till_o he_o have_v be_v approve_v as_o visible_o worthy_a which_o yet_o may_v issue_v out_o into_o a_o formal_a suspension_n if_o any_o shall_v wilful_o obtrude_v without_o trial_n or_o upon_o trial_n shall_v be_v find_v visible_o unworthy_a and_o yet_o will_v not_o be_v persuade_v to_o forbear_v till_o better_v prepare_v for_o his_o instance_n of_o christ_n converse_n with_o publican_n and_o sinner_n it_o make_v much_o for_o we_o and_o against_o himself_o such_o publican_n and_o sinner_n who_o be_v not_o ashamed_a public_o to_o profess_v their_o repentance_n and_o high_a respect_n to_o christ_n shall_v be_v very_o welcome_a to_o we_o as_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n but_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o blind_a and_o scandalous_a pharisees_n ought_v to_o be_v admit_v with_o these_o publican_n and_o sinner_n for_o his_o grand_a instance_n of_o judas_n it_o have_v be_v already_o answer_v only_o i_o can_v but_o stand_v amaze_v at_o his_o high_a fly_v confidence_n and_o censoriousness_n pag._n 19_o the_o evidence_n of_o which_o fact_n he_o mean_v of_o christ_n admit_v judas_n to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n have_v ever_o appear_v so_o full_o to_o the_o church_n that_o this_o alone_a have_v be_v ground_n sufficient_a to_o deduce_v their_o right_n of_o free_a admission_n and_o what_o need_v more_o indeed_o be_v urge_v but_o that_o man_n when_o they_o be_v willing_a not_o to_o see_v will_v let_v their_o hand_n put_v over_o their_o eye_n be_v enough_o to_o blind_v they_o answ_n 1._o sundry_a famous_a light_n in_o the_o church_n believe_v this_o long_a before_o mr._n h._n either_o preach_v or_o write_v and_o yet_o think_v it_o not_o ground_n enough_o for_o free_a admission_n but_o haply_o mr._n h._n be_v so_o charitable_a as_o to_o judge_v not_o only_o the_o reform_a church_n but_o also_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o england_n ever_o since_o the_o dawn_n of_o reformation_n after_o the_o marian_n persecution_n to_o this_o day_n to_o have_v wilful_o put_v their_o hand_n over_o their_o eye_n and_o know_o to_o have_v sin_v against_o their_o conscience_n we_o may_v well_o bear_v this_o sharp_a censure_n with_o the_o more_o comfort_n and_o patience_n consider_v we_o suffer_v with_o so_o good_a company_n 2._o see_v you_o not_o how_o the_o vizard_n of_o humility_n fall_v off_o and_o both_o his_o breath_n and_o pen_n savour_v rank_o of_o pride_n in_o this_o unchristian_a censure_n be_v we_o as_o bad_a as_o mr._n h._n will_v make_v we_o we_o have_v undoubted_o make_v a_o great_a progress_n in_o the_o high_a way_n to_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o deserve_v ourselves_o not_o only_o to_o be_v suspend_v but_o also_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o must_v be_v bold_a to_o tell_v mr._n h._n that_o he_o who_o take_v upon_o himself_o to_o be_v so_o free_a a_o

do_v it_o follow_v from_o thence_o that_o there_o be_v a_o essential_a relation_n between_o excommunication_n and_o the_o communion_n or_o which_o be_v more_o gross_a that_o excommunication_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o communion_n do_v not_o essentialiter_fw-la relata_fw-la put_v or_o take_v away_o each_o other_o but_o do_v the_o take_v away_o of_o excommunication_n take_v away_o the_o communion_n what_o be_v this_o but_o to_o conclude_v that_o the_o admit_v of_o all_o sort_n to_o the_o communion_n take_v away_o the_o communion_n so_o belike_o there_o be_v a_o communion_n which_o all_o partake_v of_o and_o yet_o there_o be_v no_o communion_n because_o all_o partake_v of_o it_o be_v not_o this_o excellent_a logic_n the_o sun_n shine_v which_o all_o man_n see_v and_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o shine_v because_o all_o man_n see_v it_o it_o be_v therefore_o both_o a_o false_a inference_n and_o a_o absurd_a falsity_n in_o itself_o that_o there_o be_v a_o essential_a relation_n between_o excommunication_n and_o the_o coram_fw-la union_n since_o the_o communion_n may_v be_v without_o excommunication_n and_o excommunication_n without_o the_o communion_n i_o speak_v as_o to_o matter_n of_o fact_n not_o as_o to_o jus_o or_o fas_fw-la for_o i_o believe_v all_o ordidinance_n shall_v be_v maintain_v in_o the_o church_n yet_o withal_o that_o the_o absence_n of_o one_o ordinance_n do_v not_o null_a another_o there_o be_v indeed_o a_o near_a relation_n between_o the_o communion_n and_o excommunication_n in_o point_n of_o duty_n since_o we_o must_v not_o separate_v those_o thing_n which_o god_n have_v join_v god_n have_v command_v all_o his_o ordinance_n to_o be_v use_v but_o not_o in_o point_n of_o be_v or_o existence_n since_o they_o depend_v not_o so_o one_o upon_o the_o other_o that_o all_o must_v needs_o be_v abolish_v if_o one_o be_v universal_o neglect_v the_o latter_a surmise_n frame_v by_o mr._n h._n be_v far_o more_o absurd_a as_o if_o either_o we_o or_o the_o objection_n by_o he_o propound_v make_v excommunication_n a_o part_n of_o the_o communion_n what_o be_v this_o but_o a_o contradiction_n in_o terminis_fw-la to_o make_v keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n a_o part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n or_o keep_v from_o receive_v a_o part_n of_o receive_v from_o such_o receive_n we_o shall_v suspend_v no_o unworthy_a person_n we_o wish_v mr._n humphrey_n much_o good_a with_o such_o contradiction_n but_o desire_v he_o not_o to_o pin_v they_o upon_o our_o sleeve_n 2._o how_o follow_v it_o from_o the_o objection_n that_o excommunication_n be_v a_o part_n of_o communion_n the_o argument_n must_v stand_v thus_o if_o free_a admission_n to_o the_o communion_n excommunicate_a excommunication_n than_o excommunication_n be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o communion_n but_o free_a admission_n do_v so_o ergo._n do_v not_o the_o antecedent_n and_o the_o consequent_a here_o hang_v together_o like_o rope_n of_o sand_n be_v it_o not_o rather_o true_a that_o if_o free_a admission_n to_o the_o communion_n excommunicate_a excommunication_n than_o excommunication_n be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o communion_n be_v it_o not_o against_o nature_n for_o one_o part_n to_o excommunicate_v another_o his_o distinction_n between_o act_n of_o discipline_n and_o act_n of_o worship_n make_v little_a for_o his_o purpose_n we_o grant_v they_o indeed_o to_o be_v distinct_a thing_n yet_o withal_o we_o add_v that_o act_n of_o discipline_n be_v no_o bar_n to_o act_n of_o worship_n except_v only_o actual_a receive_n in_o the_o sacrament_n if_o he_o please_v to_o call_v that_o a_o act_n of_o worship_n i_o must_v therefore_o pass_v his_o follow_a discourse_n pag._n 33._o &_o 34._o as_o whole_o impertinent_a and_o tell_v he_o that_o the_o friend_n of_o suspension_n be_v more_o both_o for_o discipline_n and_o worship_n than_o he_o be_v 1._o because_o we_o be_v for_o all_o the_o part_n and_o degree_n of_o discipline_n he_o be_v only_o for_o some_o of_o they_o 2._o we_o exclude_v no_o excommunicate_v person_n from_o any_o part_n of_o public_a worship_n but_o only_o from_o actual_a receive_n contra_fw-la he_o exclude_v all_o excommunicate_a person_n from_o all_o public_a act_n of_o worship_n pag._n 31._o 2_o object_n the_o most_o of_o man_n be_v whole_o unfit_a and_o not_o capable_a of_o this_o ordinance_n as_o want_v both_o the_o preparatory_a and_o executory_a part_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o no_o free_a admission_n hither_o answ_n i_o commend_v mr._n h._n who_o will_v be_v sure_a to_o choose_v adversary_n weak_a enough_o he_o may_v well_o say_v there_o be_v manifest_a weakness_n in_o this_o argument_n but_o he_o do_v ill_a to_o right_n against_o our_o weak_a argument_n and_o then_o triumph_v as_o if_o we_o have_v no_o strong_a we_o have_v show_v former_o that_o fitness_n or_o unfitness_n absolute_o consider_v be_v no_o rule_n for_o the_o church_n admission_n or_o suspension_n but_o either_o of_o these_o as_o visible_a we_o say_v not_o that_o all_o who_o be_v unfit_a must_v be_v keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o only_o all_o who_o be_v visible_o unfit_a 2._o that_o for_o the_o discern_a of_o those_o who_o be_v visible_o unfit_a the_o church_n must_v proceed_v by_o a_o rule_n to_o find_v they_o out_o 3._o that_o trial_n by_o examination_n of_o person_n and_o witness_n if_o need_v be_v be_v a_o scripture_n and_o approve_a rule_n 4._o that_o all_o be_v bind_v to_o submit_v either_o to_o public_a or_o private_a trial_n as_o god_n offer_v occasion_n for_o either_o when_o it_o may_v be_v for_o god_n glory_n and_o their_o own_o or_o other_o edification_n yea_o though_o it_o shall_v tend_v to_o their_o outward_a prejudice_n 1_o pet._n 3.15_o 5._o that_o be_v discover_v to_o be_v unfit_a they_o ought_v to_o repent_v and_o study_v to_o be_v fit_a but_o not_o to_o thrust_v themselves_o against_o light_n and_o conviction_n upon_o the_o sacrament_n when_o god_n say_v let_v a_o man_n so_o cat_n 1_o cor._n 11.28_o how_o dare_v any_o man_n say_v let_v he_o eat_v though_o not_o so_o 6._o if_o notwithstanding_o person_n visible_o unfit_a will_v thrust_v themselves_o upon_o the_o sacrament_n it_o be_v the_o church_n duty_n not_o to_o let_v they_o eat_v and_o drink_v judgement_n to_o themselves_o by_o murder_v the_o lord_n of_o glory_n unless_o mr._n h._n be_v of_o cain_n religion_n that_o church_n officer_n be_v not_o their_o brethren_n keeper_n genes_n 4.9_o neither_o let_v he_o object_n that_o then_o they_o may_v as_o well_o keep_v he_o from_o hear_v etc._n etc._n for_o in_o part_n it_o have_v and_o god_n will_v shall_v be_v more_o full_o show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o wide_a difference_n between_o hear_v and_o receive_v now_o let_v we_o hear_v what_o mr._n h._n have_v to_o say_v against_o this_o objection_n of_o his_o own_o frame_n and_o first_o i_o thank_v he_o that_o pag_n 35._o he_o lay_v down_o that_o the_o church_n can_v but_o look_v upon_o a_o outward_a capacity_n he_o may_v have_v add_v since_o contrariorum_fw-la eadem_fw-la est_fw-la ratio_fw-la that_o the_o church_n may_v also_o look_v upon_o and_o judge_v of_o outward_a incapacity_n but_o see_v and_o judge_v of_o it_o they_o can_v without_o evidence_n and_o trial_n therefore_o 3._o they_o may_v inquire_v after_o person_n capable_a or_o uncapable_a 4._o since_o trial_n be_v in_o vain_a without_o execution_n therefore_o they_o ought_v to_o admit_v all_o person_n outward_o capable_a and_o suspend_v all_o person_n outward_o incapable_a otherwise_o how_o shall_v they_o suspend_v negative_o at_o least_o infant_n distract_a and_o excommunicate_v person_n as_o to_o his_o three_o answer_n i_o answer_v brief_o 1._o a_o natural_a man_n must_v hear_v pray_v etc._n etc._n though_o he_o can_v do_v they_o right_o because_o these_o be_v convert_v ordinance_n so_o be_v not_o the_o lord_n supper_n i_o mean_v as_o to_o actual_a receive_n he_o may_v therefore_o hear_v etc._n etc._n but_o not_o receive_v i_o wonder_v a_o wise_a man_n shall_v mistake_v a_o mountain_n for_o a_o feather_n 2._o it_o be_v true_a every_o man_n must_v do_v what_o he_o can_v but_o many_o thing_n be_v natural_o possible_a which_o be_v moral_o impossible_a and_o thus_o i_o can_v do_v that_o which_o i_o may_v not_o that_o be_v impossible_a which_o be_v unlawful_a let_v he_o prove_v that_o actual_a receive_n be_v a_o debt_n on_o the_o part_n of_o a_o natural_a man_n or_o that_o to_o admit_v a_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a be_v a_o debt_n on_o the_o church_n part_n and_o we_o shall_v be_v far_o enough_o from_o hinder_v any_o in_o the_o payment_n of_o their_o debt_n either_o to_o god_n or_o man_n 3._o in_o his_o last_o answer_n though_o he_o have_v borrow_v a_o good_a distinction_n from_o master_n pemble_n yet_o he_o shuffle_n woeful_o in_o the_o application_n of_o it_o in_o a_o legal_a sense_n no_o man_n be_v either_o worthy_a or_o receive_v worthy_o in_o a_o evangelicall_n sense_n no_o man_n receive_v worthy_o but_o

no_o but_o the_o promise_n of_o grace_n can_v be_v seal_v to_o none_o but_o the_o legatee_n of_o the_o new_a covenant_n and_o such_o be_v only_a person_n elect_v or_o effectual_o call_v understand_v i_o here_o as_o to_o the_o spiritual_a and_o save_a branch_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o that_o be_v do_v on_o god_n part_n every_o sacrament_n second_o as_o for_o the_o church_n and_o the_o minister_n who_o can_v judge_v infallible_o who_o be_v elect_v and_o effectual_o call_v they_o must_v proceed_v by_o the_o rule_n of_o visibility_n seal_v the_o promise_n by_o the_o sacrament_n to_o they_o and_o they_o only_o who_o upon_o just_a trial_n temper_v with_o charity_n appear_v to_o be_v visible_a legatee_n and_o as_o christ_n himself_o respect_v not_o good_a word_n and_o outward_a profession_n when_o contradict_v by_o our_o carriage_n matth._n 7.21_o 22_o 23._o no_o more_o must_v the_o church_n when_o man_n carriage_n do_v visible_o contradict_v their_o profession_n three_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o nourishment_n seal_v not_o proper_o initial_a but_o progressive_a grace_n nor_o can_v the_o church_n apply_v it_o for_o conversion_n but_o edification_n and_o how_o be_v they_o capable_a of_o edification_n in_o grace_n who_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o grace_n or_o of_o visible_a edification_n who_o be_v destitute_a of_o visible_a grace_n four_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n not_o only_a sanctification_n but_o also_o the_o comfort_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v to_o the_o receiver_n but_o how_o can_v the_o comfort_n of_o holiness_n be_v seal_v to_o unholy_a person_n or_o by_o the_o minister_n apply_v to_o those_o who_o be_v visible_o unholy_a ezek._n 13.19_o 21._o pag._n 46._o he_o speak_v clear_o and_o true_o that_o a_o unregenerate_a man_n can_v receive_v the_o sacrament_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o his_o faith_n for_o how_o can_v faith_n be_v seal_v to_o where_o it_o be_v not_o but_o what_o follow_v immediate_o yet_o the_o church_n can_v give_v it_o as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v either_o ambiguous_a or_o false_a 3.1_o gal._n 3.1_o ambiguous_a if_o he_o take_v give_v for_o give_v out_o or_o hold_v forth_o for_o thus_o christ_n may_v be_v give_v to_o all_o whether_o they_o receive_v or_o no_o but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n and_o prove_v only_o that_o all_o may_v be_v present_a but_o not_o that_o all_o may_v receive_v it_o be_v false_a if_o understand_v of_o the_o delivery_n of_o the_o element_n to_o all_o person_n who_o may_v be_v present_a 1._o in_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o sense_n who_o can_v scriptural_o or_o rational_o exclude_v either_o infant_n distract_a or_o excommunicate_v person_n from_o presence_n yet_o will_v not_o admit_v they_o actual_o to_o receive_v 2._o it_o be_v false_a in_o our_o sense_n who_o can_v admit_v either_o ignorant_a or_o scandalous_a person_n to_o be_v present_a but_o neither_o of_o they_o to_o receive_v his_o illustration_n ibid._n draw_v from_o the_o word_n preach_v make_v against_o he_o if_o right_o state_v true_o there_o may_v be_v true_a preach_n though_o the_o hearer_n apply_v not_o the_o word_n by_o faith_n but_o can_v there_o be_v true_a preach_n where_o the_o minister_n apply_v the_o word_n wrong_v bind_v where_o he_o shall_v loose_v and_o lose_v where_o he_o shall_v bind_v with_o the_o key_n of_o doctrine_n no_o more_o do_v that_o minister_n do_v his_o duty_n who_o in_o the_o lord_n supper_n lose_v where_o he_o shall_v bind_v and_o seal_v comfort_n to_o he_o who_o be_v not_o a_o visible_a saint_n whereas_o in_o the_o close_a of_o pag._n 46._o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v there_o be_v not_o one_o tittle_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v the_o sacrament_n to_o he_o man_n seal_n answ_n 1._o he_o speak_v dark_o and_o ambiguous_o as_o if_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v they_o be_v not_o man_n seal_n because_o they_o be_v god_n seal_n by_o which_o logic_n he_o may_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o sabbath_n be_v not_o man_n because_o it_o be_v god_n and_o the_o gospel_n be_v not_o man_n because_o it_o be_v god_n yea_o that_o nothing_o be_v man_n because_o all_o thing_n be_v god_n as_o if_o humane_a propriety_n contradict_v divine_a supremacy_n 2._o if_o he_o mean_v the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o man_n seal_n by_o institution_n that_o be_v true_a but_o nothing_o to_o his_o purpose_n the_o broad_a seal_n be_v not_o i_o by_o institution_n yet_o i_o may_v true_o say_v the_o broad_a seal_n be_v i_o when_o i_o have_v a_o patent_n or_o pardon_n seal_v by_o it_o 3._o do_v not_o the_o final_a cause_n give_v as_o true_a propriety_n as_o the_o efficient_a nay_o usual_o more_o a_o seal_n a_o suit_n a_o house_n etc._n etc._n be_v more_o his_o for_o who_o it_o be_v make_v than_o his_o that_o make_v it_o god_n indeed_o have_v a_o double_a propriety_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o make_v both_o by_o he_o and_o for_o he_o namely_o to_o seal_v his_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v make_v for_o man_n also_o man_n have_v a_o true_a propriety_n in_o it_o as_o he_o for_o who_o either_o a_o seal_n or_o a_o meal_n be_v make_v have_v in_o both_o it_o be_v ridiculous_a therefore_o he_o will_v seem_v at_o least_o to_o assert_v the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o man_n seal_n and_o yet_o grant_v pag._n 47._o they_o be_v man_n seal_n in_o use_n do_v he_o not_o know_v that_o a_o sacrament_n extra_fw-la usum_fw-la have_v no_o be_v and_o so_o be_v neither_o god_n seal_n nor_o man_n seal_n and_o that_o in_o use_v it_o be_v both_o god_n seal_n and_o man_n seal_n a_o seal_n from_o god_n to_o man_n and_o from_o man_n to_o god_n the_o covenant_n indeed_o stand_v seal_v by_o god_n to_o ail_v conditional_o but_o will_v that_o acquit_v the_o church_n in_o deliver_v the_o sign_n to_o all_o as_o mr._n h._n will_v have_v it_o pag._n 47._o then_o why_o may_v not_o even_o heathen_a or_o excommunicate_v person_n receive_v to_o who_o the_o covenant_n be_v offer_v and_o seal_v conditional_o again_o that_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o gospel_n be_v seal_v absolute_o by_o the_o sacrament_n but_o not_o our_o interest_n in_o it_o as_o he_o note_v in_o the_o same_o page_n be_v true_a in_o the_o first_o branch_n but_o false_a in_o the_o second_o since_o not_o only_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v absolute_o to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n but_o also_o his_o interest_n in_o it_o 2._o to_o those_o who_o be_v visible_o worthy_a the_o minister_n seal_v their_o visible_a interest_n which_o visible_a interest_n because_o some_o in_o the_o church_n have_v not_o therefore_o the_o minister_n can_v seal_v it_o to_o they_o by_o give_v they_o the_o element_n but_o by_o consecration_n and_o application_n of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o other_o before_o their_o eye_n do_v seal_v even_o to_o the_o stander_n by_o the_o tenor_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o well_o as_o in_o baptism_n in_o both_o sacrament_n the_o offer_n of_o grace_n be_v seal_v to_o all_o yea_o even_o to_o heathen_a etc._n etc._n but_o real_a interest_n be_v seal_v only_o to_o real_a saint_n and_o worthy_a receiver_n as_o visible_a interest_n to_o visible_a saint_n grant_v the_o word_n speak_v not_o particular_o of_o any_o man_n single_a interest_n by_o name_n yet_o it_o do_v by_o sign_n and_o whosoever_o find_v those_o sign_n in_o himself_o have_v as_o true_a a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n as_o if_o he_o be_v mention_v in_o it_o by_o name_n the_o scripture_n faith_n not_o particular_o of_o mr._n h._n that_o he_o shall_v rise_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n yet_o i_o hope_v mr._n h._n doubt_v not_o of_o his_o resurrection_n in_o particular_a nor_o do_v the_o scripture_n say_v mr._n h._n shall_v be_v save_v yet_o if_o mr._n h._n have_v save_v faith_n it_o do_v as_o particular_o assure_v he_o of_o salvation_n as_o if_o he_o be_v mention_v by_o name_n etc._n etc._n now_o the_o seal_n run_v parallel_n with_o the_o covenant_n and_o assure_v conditional_a salvation_n to_o all_o visible_a salvation_n to_o visible_a saint_n real_a salvation_n to_o real_a saint_n to_o the_o first_o by_o the_o outward_a administration_n to_o the_o second_o by_o visible_a application_n to_o the_o three_o by_o real_a and_o spiritual_a application_n whereas_o therefore_o page_n 48._o mr._n h._n please_v himself_o with_o this_o embryon_n of_o his_o own_o brain_n which_o be_v former_o conceive_v by_o a_o pierce_a and_o godly_a man_n convert_v his_o opinion_n as_o he_o say_v admission_n and_o if_o i_o mistake_v not_o this_o pierce_a godly_a man_n be_v far_o from_o mr._n h._n his_o judgement_n of_o free_a admission_n ans_fw-fr 1._o i_o hope_v that_o godly_a person_n if_o so_o be_v convert_v before_o mr._n humphrey_n his_o embryon_n be_v hatch_v 2._o i_o see_v little_a of_o conversion_n or_o piety_n in_o admit_v all_o

shall_v person_n negative_o unworthy_a be_v suspend_v and_o person_n privative_o yea_o positive_o unworthy_a be_v admit_v let_v he_o take_v heed_n there_o be_v not_o something_o of_o the_o pharisee_fw-mi and_o hypocrite_n in_o his_o own_o heart_n to_o apply_v his_o own_o counsel_n to_o himself_o 1._o in_o censure_v his_o brethren_n 2._o in_o do_v the_o same_o thing_n for_o which_o he_o censure_v they_o pag._n 79._o but_o be_v we_o not_o faulty_a and_o partake_v of_o other_o man_n sin_n if_o we_o do_v not_o our_o best_a to_o have_v the_o leven_a purge_v out_o and_o therefore_o we_o may_v not_o say_v be_o i_o my_o brother_n keeper_n look_v they_o to_o it_o to_o this_o m._n h._n answer_n 1._o by_o way_n of_o concession_n and_o that_o we_o must_v tell_v the_o church_n too_o suppose_v it_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o hear_v we_o 2._o by_o way_n of_o refutation_n in_o the_o same_o page_n but_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n we_o must_v not_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v a_o plain_a fallacy_n à_fw-la dicto_fw-la simpliciter_fw-la ad_fw-la dictum_fw-la secundum_fw-la quid_fw-la to_o think_v our_o come_n to_o the_o sacrament_n with_o a_o wicked_a man_n be_v sin_v itself_o or_o make_v it_o the_o sin_n or_o we_o more_o guilty_a of_o the_o sin_n because_o we_o ought_v to_o have_v admonish_v they_o and_o labour_v their_o excommunication_n shall_v omission_n of_o one_o duty_n excuse_v from_o another_o because_o the_o leaven_n be_v not_o purge_v out_o must_v there_o be_v no_o lump_n this_o be_v i_o may_v humble_o say_v a_o too_o overly_o surprise_v of_o godly_a m._n burrough_n answ_n 1._o will_v one_o think_v that_o m._n h._n at_o the_o same_o instant_n will_v be_v guilty_a of_o that_o fallacy_n wherewith_o he_o charge_v we_o and_o with_o the_o cutpurse_n cry_v stop_v thief_n that_o himself_o may_v the_o better_a escape_n in_o the_o crowd_n do_v either_o our_o principle_n or_o profession_n cry_v down_o the_o sacrament_n absolute_o because_o we_o be_v against_o mix_a sacrament_n or_o be_v we_o against_o all_o mix_a sacrament_n because_o we_o be_v against_o the_o mix_a receive_v of_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a with_o person_n visible_o worthy_a or_o do_v we_o teach_v that_o its_o simple_o a_o sin_n in_o one_o visible_o worthy_a to_o receive_v with_o one_o or_o divers_a person_n visible_o unworthy_a wherein_o then_o do_v we_o and_o m._n h._n differ_v answ_n 1._o in_o that_o he_o think_v its_o the_o duty_n of_o all_o church-member_n to_o receive_v be_v they_o in_o what_o state_n they_o will_v never_o so_o ignorant_a wicked_a and_o abominable_a yea_o and_o that_o visible_o too_o except_v only_a child_n distract_v and_o excommunicate_v person_n 2._o in_o that_o he_o think_v it_o the_o church_n duty_n to_o admit_v all_o the_o forementioned_a person_n wave_v only_o the_o exception_n contra_fw-la we_o hold_v that_o no_o person_n real_o unworthy_a aught_o to_o receive_v 2._o that_o no_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a aught_o to_o be_v admit_v where_o there_o be_v a_o juridical_a power_n in_o the_o church_n to_o suspend_v they_o which_o power_n be_v de_fw-fr facto_fw-la in_o the_o presbyterian_a church_n but_o lie_v not_o in_o any_o one_o minister_n or_o in_o the_o congregation_n itself_o but_o in_o the_o presbytery_n of_o each_o congregation_n and_o that_o either_o solitary_a or_o combine_v the_o eldership_n than_o sin_v not_o in_o admit_v person_n real_o unworthy_a provide_v they_o have_v evidence_n of_o their_o visible_a worthiness_n particular_a person_n sin_v not_o in_o communicate_v with_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a but_o only_o in_o connive_v at_o their_o visible_a unworthiness_n by_o neglect_v either_o to_o admonish_v and_o reprove_v you_o and_o if_o that_o will_v not_o do_v in_o order_n to_o their_o reformation_n by_o neglect_v to_o complain_v to_o the_o eldership_n of_o they_o that_o by_o the_o church_n deal_v with_o they_o they_o may_v either_o be_v reform_v or_o suspend_v and_o in_o case_n that_o will_v not_o do_v and_o need_v so_o require_v excommunicate_v let_v the_o reader_n then_o take_v notice_n how_o guilty_a m._n h._n be_v of_o his_o own_o fallacy_n in_o make_v the_o reader_n believe_v we_o be_v against_o all_o sacrament_n or_o against_o all_o mix_a sacrament_n because_o we_o judge_v that_o person_n real_o unworthy_a ought_v not_o in_o statu_fw-la quo_fw-la to_o receive_v and_o person_n visible_o unworthy_a shall_v not_o by_o the_o church_n be_v admit_v to_o receive_v second_o though_o omission_n of_o one_o duty_n do_v not_o proper_o excuse_v yet_o it_o may_v make_v one_o uncapable_a of_o another_o as_o a_o person_n impure_a neglect_v to_o purify_v himself_o be_v at_o present_a uncapable_a of_o the_o passeover_n and_o by_o proportion_n a_o person_n either_o unable_a or_o neglect_v to_o prepare_v himself_o be_v uncapable_a at_o present_a of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o for_o m._n burrough_n surprise_v about_o this_o particular_a i_o dare_v not_o undertake_v either_o to_o charge_n or_o vindicate_v he_o till_o m._n h._n produce_v he_o speak_v for_o himself_o qui_fw-la statuit_fw-la aliquid_fw-la parte_fw-la inaudità_fw-la alterà_fw-la aequum_fw-la licèt_fw-la statuerit_fw-la haud_fw-la aequus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la rep._n 2_o be_v not_o all_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n swine_n and_o dog_n to_o be_v reject_v and_o keep_v from_o the_o pearl_n and_o holy_a thing_n of_o the_o sacrament_n m._n h._n in_o his_o answer_n question_n the_o term_n of_o dog_n and_o swine_n as_o too_o harsh_a in_o the_o general_a and_o think_v unfitnesse_n be_v not_o a_o just_a ground_n of_o exclusion_n and_o that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deal_v withal_o as_o dog_n till_o juridical_o censure_n that_o scandalous_a person_n be_v first_o to_o be_v admonish_v due_o and_o then_o if_o obstinate_a excommunicate_v and_o that_o not_o mere_o from_o the_o sacrament_n but_o from_o christian_a communion_n in_o general_a yet_o withal_o he_o seem_v doubtful_a about_o the_o degree_n of_o excommunication_n and_o leaf_n much_o to_o the_o church_n wifdom_n etc._n etc._n p._n 8o_n to_o 82._o answ_n 1._o wade_v the_o harsh_a expression_n of_o dog_n and_o swine_n though_o warrantable_a enough_o by_o scripture_n it_o be_v then_o enough_o for_o we_o that_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n be_v unfit_a for_o the_o sacrament_n and_o if_o m._n h._n exclude_v child_n amp_n c._n because_o unfit_a why_o may_v not_o we_o exclude_v both_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a person_n upon_o the_o same_o account_n since_o the_o one_o can_v the_o other_o will_v not_o examine_v themselves_o or_o if_o after_o a_o sort_n they_o examine_v yet_o can_v approve_v themselves_o which_o be_v both_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o end_n of_o examination_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o upon_o due_a search_n will_v find_v the_o quite_o contrary_a both_o be_v under_o the_o power_n of_o unbelief_n or_o want_v the_o worthiness_n of_o preparation_n though_o the_o last_o may_v possible_o have_v the_o worthiness_n of_o person_n second_o neither_o ignorant_a nor_o scandalous_a person_n be_v juridical_o suspend_v before_o admonition_n and_o evidence_n give_v of_o their_o obstinacy_n three_o while_o he_o plead_v for_o excommunication_n he_o can_v be_v against_o suspendsion_n which_o be_v a_o inferior_a degree_n thereof_o four_o that_o excommunication_n exclude_v from_o all_o ordinance_n be_v gratis_o dictum_fw-la as_o have_v be_v before_o note_v obj._n 10_o the_o last_o objection_n be_v from_o those_o several_a text_n that_o be_v allege_v for_o a_o separation_n from_o wicked_a person_n pag._n 82._o here_o m._n m._n grant_v we_o must_v separate_v from_o wicked_a man_n in_o their_o sin_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o common_a familiarity_n but_o deny_v that_o any_o scripture_n command_n be_v separation_n from_o they_o in_o the_o sacrament_n unless_o in_o case_n of_o excommunication_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o suspension_n be_v a_o part_n of_o excommunication_n in_o grant_v separation_n in_o case_n of_o excommunication_n he_o yield_v the_o cause_n second_o that_o scripture_n which_o forbid_v we_o to_o eat_v with_o wicked_a person_n forbid_v we_o to_o receive_v with_o they_o 1_o cor._n 5.11_o unless_o the_o sacrament_n can_v be_v receive_v without_o eat_v nor_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o say_v that_o place_n speak_v only_o of_o civil_a and_o private_a eat_n since_o eat_v of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o familiarity_n as_o well_o as_o eat_v at_o our_o own_o table_n and_o where_o i_o can_v without_o sin_n avoid_v it_o i_o may_v no_o more_o eat_v sacramental_o then_o civil_o with_o a_o scandalous_a person_n this_o church_n governor_n may_v prevent_v by_o discipline_n and_o private_a christian_n by_o information_n by_o which_o if_o they_o can_v keep_v away_o scandalous_a sinner_n these_o last_o may_v comfort_v themselves_o in_o that_o they_o have_v discharge_v their_o duty_n but_o aught_o hot_a to_o run_v away_o from_o