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therefore_o mr._n collins_n have_v take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o pain_n to_o prove_v i_o know_v not_o what_o unless_o it_o be_v excommunication_n under_o the_o name_n of_o juridical_a suspension_n and_o then_o what_o will_v become_v of_o suspension_n it_o will_v fall_v of_o its_o own_o accord_n without_o any_o further_o dispute_v doubtless_o if_o there_o be_v such_o a_o church_n censure_n as_o suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n than_o we_o shall_v find_v something_o of_o it_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o in_o what_o case_n it_o shall_v be_v exercise_v if_o it_o be_v a_o lesser_a censure_n then_o in_o reason_n we_o shall_v have_v some_o hint_n from_o scripture_n for_o what_o sin_n or_o for_o what_o want_v of_o qualification_n prerequisite_a unto_o the_o sacrament_n more_o than_o any_o other_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n now_o mr._n collins_n say_v if_o he_o can_v but_o prove_v it_o in_o any_o case_n how_o ignorant_a heretical_a or_o scandalous_a soever_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 4._o mr._n botemans_n challenge_n will_v be_v answer_v true_o but_o that_o still_o remain_v to_o do_v and_o if_o mr._n collins_n fail_v in_o the_o state_v of_o the_o question_n it_o be_v ten_o to_o one_o he_o be_v at_o as_o great_a a_o loss_n in_o his_o proof_n therefore_o i_o will_v suppose_v that_o that_o suspension_n which_o mr._n boteman_n will_v have_v prove_v be_v this_o that_o a_o minister_n with_o his_o two_o elder_n have_v power_n in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n to_o deny_v the_o sacrament_n to_o those_o that_o be_v church-member_n and_o in_o possession_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o allow_v they_o the_o privilege_n of_o all_o the_o other_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n and_o communion_n in_o the_o church_n as_o member_n of_o the_o same_o church_n and_o i_o believe_v mr._n boteman_n and_o i_o shall_v never_o see_v nor_o hear_v that_o suspension_n prove_v by_o any_o whatever_o from_o the_o scripture_n and_o i_o think_v that_o the_o thing_n he_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v either_o he_o mean_v this_o or_o else_o the_o same_o with_o excommunication_n if_o he_o will_v allow_v they_o no_o other_o communion_n with_o the_o church_n then_o unto_o heathen_n now_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v his_o proof_n and_o his_o principal_a examination_n be_v this_o to_o those_o who_o the_o sacrament_n may_v not_o lawful_o be_v give_v it_o may_v lawful_o be_v deny_v but_o there_o be_v some_o baptize_v person_n in_o the_o church_n to_o who_o it_o may_v not_o lawful_o be_v give_v ergo_fw-la his_o major_n be_v grant_v answ_n let_v we_o see_v how_o he_o can_v prove_v his_o minor_a namely_o that_o there_o be_v or_o may_v be_v some_o baptize_v person_n not_o excommunicate_a to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n may_v not_o lawful_o be_v give_v his_o first_o proof_n of_o this_o be_v matth._n 7.6_o give_v not_o that_o which_o be_v holy_a unto_o dog_n neither_o cast_v you_o your_o pearl_n before_o swine_n lest_o they_o trample_v they_o under_o their_o foot_n and_o turn_v again_o and_o rend_v you_o he_o be_v a_o great_a deal_n more_o large_a upon_o this_o proof_n than_o he_o be_v profitable_a or_o pertinent_a to_o the_o business_n i_o shall_v endtvour_v first_o to_o give_v the_o sense_n and_o then_o to_o examine_v the_o main_a of_o he_o for_o he_o be_v too_o large_a for_o i_o to_o transcribe_v i_o conceive_v then_o that_o this_o text_n of_o our_o bless_a saviour_n be_v chief_o speak_v by_o way_n of_o counsel_n and_o caution_n unto_o his_o disciple_n and_o follower_n in_o general_a respect_v all_o that_o be_v then_o present_a hearer_n of_o he_o at_o his_o sermon_n upon_o the_o mount_n that_o give_v credit_n unto_o his_o doctrine_n and_o acknowledge_v his_o person_n and_o whereas_o he_o will_v not_o have_v they_o give_v that_o which_o be_v holy_a to_o the_o dog_n he_o mean_v private_a reproof_n and_o admonition_n because_o those_o be_v perilous_a time_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o cruel_a carp_n in_o fidel_n pharisees_n and_o jew_n that_o be_v such_o deadly_a enemy_n unto_o he_o and_o unto_o all_o that_o shall_v speak_v on_o his_o behalf_n therefore_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o safety_n of_o their_o person_n he_o warrant_v their_o silence_n rather_o than_o to_o put_v their_o person_n upon_o such_o imminent_a danger_n of_o be_v rend_v by_o that_o untoward_a generation_n of_o malicious_a enemy_n of_o christ_n and_o especial_o christ_n know_v that_o they_o be_v give_v up_o to_o a_o spirit_n of_o blindness_n and_o hardness_n of_o heart_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o repent_v and_o therefore_o whatever_o pearl_n of_o divine_a truth_n be_v cast_v unto_o they_o for_o their_o good_a be_v to_o no_o purpose_n they_o will_v but_o slight_v and_o scorn_v they_o and_o trample_v they_o under_o their_o foot_n so_o that_o the_o reason_n be_v double_a why_o he_o warrant_v their_o filence_n to_o such_o dog_n not_o only_o the_o safety_n of_o their_o person_n but_o the_o unprofitablenesse_n of_o their_o reproof_n and_o holy_a admonition_n they_o will_v but_o trample_v they_o under_o foot_n etc._n etc._n good_a reason_n have_v our_o bless_a saviour_n thus_o to_o caution_n his_o disciple_n for_o if_o i_o mistake_v not_o christ_n himself_o not_o long_o before_o be_v lead_v by_o such_o kind_n of_o wretched_a people_n unto_o the_o brow_n of_o a_o hill_n think_v to_o have_v throw_v he_o down_o headlong_o but_o by_o a_o divine_a power_n escape_v through_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o if_o you_o compare_v matth._n 4._o with_o luke_n 4._o it_o be_v probable_a that_o it_o be_v before_o this_o sermon_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v mean_v of_o private_a admonition_n or_o reproof_n be_v clear_a because_o it_o be_v before_o the_o twelve_o be_v so_o much_o as_o all_o call_v much_o less_o send_v public_o to_o preach_v 2._o it_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o public_a ordinance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n because_o then_o the_o old_a administration_n be_v in_o form_n which_o all_o be_v
out_o of_o the_o church_n we_o shall_v reprove_v instruct_v admonish_v and_o warn_v every_o sinner_n to_o fly_v the_o wrath_n to_o come_v and_o this_o we_o ought_v to_o do_v towards_o all_o in_o our_o place_n and_o calling_n as_o private_a christian_n and_o hence_o i_o conceive_v that_o mr._n collins_n be_v huge_o mistake_v that_o stretch_v the_o metaphor_n of_o dog_n to_o any_o kind_n of_o sinner_n that_o the_o scripture_n compare_v to_o dog_n for_o other_o kind_n of_o property_n of_o dog_n as_o worthlesnesse_n greediness_n bark_v or_o lick_v up_o their_o vomit_n etc._n etc._n the_o text_n be_v of_o such_o dog_n that_o will_v tear_v and_o scorn_v you_o for_o the_o best_a counsel_n you_o can_v give_v they_o for_o the_o good_a of_o their_o soul_n and_o i_o think_v that_o the_o same_o ground_n mr._n collins_n go_v upon_o to_o allow_v all_o the_o other_o holy_a thing_n unto_o heathen_n the_o excommunicate_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v satisfy_v he_o as_o rational_o to_o allow_v the_o sacrament_n unto_o the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a in_o the_o church_n all_o that_o he_o plead_v to_o the_o other_o be_v from_o some_o other_o scripture_n warrant_v and_o i_o appeal_v unto_o the_o impartial_a to_o judge_v between_o we_o whether_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o their_o respective_a flock_n be_v not_o as_o much_o bind_v by_o christ_n command_n to_o administer_v the_o holy_a supper_n unto_o their_o particular_a flock_n consist_v of_o church-member_n disciple_n baptize_v and_o not_o excommunicate_v as_o to_o administer_v the_o other_o holy_a ordinance_n unto_o heathen_a the_o excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n i_o think_v i_o have_v say_v enough_o as_o to_o the_o former_a from_o mat._n 28.20_o to_o give_v full_a satisfaction_n let_v i_o tell_v our_o author_n and_o the_o world_n that_o although_o it_o be_v sufficient_o teach_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n to_o deny_v the_o unbaptised_a and_o excommunicate_a the_o holy_a supper_n yet_o this_o text_n in_o debate_n do_v not_o forbid_v it_o at_o all_o to_o those_o that_o be_v without_o or_o under_o church_n censure_n much_o less_o do_v it_o forbid_v the_o sacrament_n to_o those_o that_o be_v within_o which_o be_v the_o thing_n mr._n collins_n quote_v it_o to_o prove_v and_o thus_o in_o short_a i_o have_v answer_v to_o the_o main_a of_o mr._n collins_n strength_n as_o touch_v this_o place_n and_o i_o humble_o conceive_v have_v break_v his_o argument_n draw_v from_o this_o text_n to_o make_v good_a his_o principal_a syllogism_n pag._n 4._o that_o there_o may_v be_v some_o baptize_v person_n in_o the_o church_n not_o cast_v out_o to_o who_o the_o sacrament_n may_v not_o lawful_o be_v give_v and_o he_o must_v quit_v himself_o a_o great_a deal_n better_o than_o in_o his_o book_n to_o make_v good_a his_o two_o proposition_n from_o this_o text_n before_o he_o can_v conclude_v any_o thing_n for_o his_o purpose_n and_o true_o i_o think_v it_o be_v a_o acceptable_a service_n both_o to_o god_n and_o the_o poor_a church_n in_o mr._n boteman_n who_o so_o present_o address_v himself_o to_o redeem_v a_o captive_a text_n so_o woeful_o wrest_v to_o perplex_v and_o disturb_v the_o poor_a church_n peace_n in_o set_v up_o a_o invention_n of_o man_n which_o jesuâ—_n christ_n command_v not_o and_o for_o his_o assumption_n that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o holy_a thing_n and_o a_o pearl_n and_o there_o may_v be_v some_o in_o the_o church_n not_o cast_v out_o who_o in_o scripture_n phrase_n be_v dog_n and_o swine_n ergo_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a answ_n 1_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o holy_a thing_n but_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o it_o iâ—_n that_o which_o be_v holy_a mean_v in_o the_o text_n nor_o forbid_v to_o be_v give_v upon_o that_o reason_n our_o saviour_n give_v for_o fear_v of_o be_v rend_v etc._n etc._n and_o though_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o there_o be_v some_o in_o the_o church_n that_o be_v such_o kind_n of_o dog_n that_o be_v irreproveable_a that_o will_v not_o endure_v a_o private_a reproof_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v reprove_v ministerial_o by_o person_n in_o office_n in_o their_o public_a preach_n nor_o that_o they_o may_v not_o authoritative_o be_v reprove_v and_o admonish_v and_o censure_v by_o the_o church_n juridical_o for_o their_o desperate_a rail_a dogged_a miscarriage_n if_o there_o be_v any_o such_o offend_a brethren_n why_o be_v they_o not_o deal_v withal_o according_a unto_o the_o right_a rule_n matth._n 18._o 1_o cor._n 5._o if_o any_o person_n in_o the_o church_n be_v object_n of_o excommunication_n i_o judge_v such_o be_v and_o then_o judge_v whether_o suspension_n be_v sufficient_a where_o excommunication_n shall_v and_o ought_v to_o take_v place_n provide_v they_o be_v obstinate_a otherwise_o church_n admonition_n may_v be_v a_o sufficient_a remedy_n to_o reform_v such_o scandalous_a sinner_n hence_o judge_v how_o pertinent_a this_o text_n be_v make_v use_n of_o to_o prove_v 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ignorant_a unregenerate_a christians_n be_v more_o careless_a and_o unreverent_a aâ—_n sluggish_a in_o hear_v pray_v sing_a theâ—_n the_o sacrament_n i_o can_v tell_v what_o man_n mâ—_n say_v to_o this_o i_o find_v that_o mr._n collins_n hâ—_n say_v but_o little_a to_o it_o notwithstanding_o my_o â—â—ging_n it_o so_o much_o in_o my_o book_n he_o know_v that_o if_o it_o be_v not_o full_o answer_v all_o that_o 〈◊〉_d have_v say_v in_o favour_n of_o suspension_n will_v fall_v 〈◊〉_d the_o ground_n and_o his_o book_n will_v be_v woâ—â—_n nothing_o i_o also_o shall_v in_o all_o humility_n desâ—â—_n mr._n collins_n or_o any_o of_o his_o judgement_n to_o 〈◊〉_d if_o they_o can_v make_v good_a the_o affirmative_a of_o tâ—â—_n next_o question_n whether_o the_o church_n be_v able_a to_o judge_v 〈◊〉_d particular_a quest_n what_o person_n upon_o trial_n wâ—â—_n eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n answ_n i_o say_v it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o the_o best_a eldership_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v certain_o know_v of_o any_o member_n beforehand_o for_o sâ—â—_n they_o find_v one_o very_o ignorant_a of_o god_n anâ—_n jesus_n christ_n who_o he_o have_v send_v and_o of_o sacrament_n and_o all_o other_o worship_n yet_o 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o baptize_v person_n and_o profess_v 〈◊〉_d willingness_n to_o learn_v and_o to_o serve_v god_n it_o his_o public_a worship_n as_o well_o as_o he_o can_v upon_o what_o account_n can_v any_o dissuade_v he_o from_o it_o as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v in_o my_o book_n the_o baptize_v as_o well_o as_o the_o circumcise_a come_v under_o all_o observance_n in_o the_o church_n the_o which_o i_o shall_v have_v occasion_n to_o speak_v more_o full_o unto_o hereafter_o when_o i_o come_v to_o that_o which_o mr._n collins_n have_v answer_v to_o that_o particular_a if_o you_o say_v such_o will_v eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n you_o can_v be_v sure_a of_o that_o which_o be_v seldom_o or_o never_o see_v in_o 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but_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v when_o ever_o themselves_o or_o any_o other_o oâ—_n their_o friend_n desire_v it_o for_o they_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o membership_n it_o not_o be_v their_o fault_n it_o have_v be_v neglect_v so_o long_o but_o their_o parent_n and_o i_o say_v likewise_o of_o the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a bear_v in_o the_o church_n be_v they_o unbaptise_v the_o church_n ought_v to_o use_v all_o mean_n possible_a to_o persuade_v they_o unto_o it_o as_o their_o special_a duty_n to_o engage_v they_o unto_o better_a obedience_n and_o church_n discipline_n for_o their_o amendment_n the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v uncircumcised_a a_o great_a many_o of_o they_o while_o they_o be_v in_o their_o travel_n in_o the_o wilderness_n their_o uncircumcision_n do_v not_o discovenant_n nor_o unchurch_n they_o but_o they_o be_v all_o circumcise_a when_o they_o come_v to_o canaan_n god_n be_v angry_a with_o moses_n for_o neglect_v the_o circumcise_n of_o his_o son_n but_o 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