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therefore_o hear_v their_o ministry_n under_o coler_n of_o learn_v the_o truth_n because_o in_o yield_n to_o receive_v and_o hear_v it_o from_o antichrist_n ministry_n they_o defile_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n and_o become_v the_o subject_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 75._o ans_fw-fr where_o he_o again_o take_v it_o as_o matter_n that_o must_v whether_o we_o will_v or_o no_o be_v grant_v unto_o he_o that_o our_o ministry_n be_v antichrist_n ministry_n which_o need_v no_o other_o answer_n then_o before_o yet_o thus_o much_o further_o 1._o that_o no_o ministry_n whatsoever_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o it_o teach_v the_o truth_n of_o christ_n especial_o a_o truth_n opposite_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o antichrist_n be_v the_o ministry_n of_o antichrist_n and_o those_o which_o shall_v submit_v and_o subject_v themselves_o unto_o any_o ministry_n whatsoever_o only_o so_o far_o forth_o as_o they_o minister_v and_o teach_v such_o truth_n can_v therein_o be_v say_v to_o defile_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n or_o to_o be_v subject_n of_o antichrist_n but_o be_v obedient_a to_o jesus_n christ_n 2._o our_o ministry_n in_o divers_a congregation_n of_o the_o land_n at_o the_o least_o teach_v not_o only_o many_o excellent_a point_n of_o doctrine_n but_o so_o much_o doctrine_n as_o be_v sufficient_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o he_o that_o believe_v the_o same_o even_o all_o the_o main_a fundamental_a point_n of_o salvation_n clear_o set_v down_o in_o god_n word_n yea_o and_o for_o aught_o any_o can_v prove_v to_o the_o contrary_n all_o other_o less_o necessary_a point_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o god_n have_v reveal_v and_o convince_v their_o conscience_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o they_o 3._o those_o among_o we_o who_o make_v conscience_n of_o hear_v our_o ministry_n do_v not_o hear_v they_o under_o a_o colour_n of_o learning_n the_o truth_n but_o only_o to_o this_o very_a end_n and_o purpose_n that_o they_o may_v learn_v the_o truth_n and_o therein_o the_o true_a way_n of_o serve_v and_o 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