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A09313 The letters patents of the presbyterie vvith the plea and fruits of the prelacie. Manifested out of the scriptures, fathers, ecclesiasticall histories, Papists, and sundrie other authors. By Iames Peregrin. [Peregin, James].; Partridge, James, attributed name. aut 1632 (1632) STC 19622B.5; ESTC S103890 43,655 62

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