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A35667 Truth outweighing error, or, An ansvver to a treatise lately published by J.B. entituled, A confession of his faith and a reason of his practice, or, With who he can, and with who he cannot hold church-fellowship ... by John Denne ... J. D. (John Denne) 1673 (1673) Wing D1027; ESTC R11873 57,462 128

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etc._n etc._n be_v accept_v as_o church-member_n in_o general_a and_o so_o of_o every_o church_n in_o particular_a and_o that_o even_o upon_o their_o baptism_n although_o this_o anti-baptism_n will_v have_v you_o believe_v that_o in_o the_o second_o of_o the_o act_n baptism_n and_o add_v to_o the_o church_n appear_v to_o be_v two_o distinct_a thing_n who_o i_o will_v have_v remember_v solomon_n his_o advice_n prov._n 30.6_o add_v thou_o not_o to_o his_o word_n lest_o he_o reprove_v thou_o and_o thou_o be_v find_v a_o liar_n but_o john_n bunyan_n be_v now_o grow_v positive_a and_o confident_o say_v pag._n 76._o take_v it_o again_o baptism_n make_v thou_o no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n neither_o particular_a nor_o universal_a neither_o do_v it_o make_v thou_o a_o visible_a saint_n it_o therefore_o give_v thou_o neither_o right_n to_o nor_o be_v of_o membership_n at_o all_o answ_n here_o be_v a_o brave_a flourish_n but_o a_o impudent_a assertion_n contrary_a to_o truth_n but_o no_o 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require_v baptism_n and_o therefore_o no_o circumstantial_a as_o the_o failer_z therein_o must_v not_o be_v judge_v and_o therefore_o in_o this_o place_n the_o objection_n offer_v by_o thyself_o pag._n 91._o be_v well_o place_v viz._n but_o notwithstanding_o all_o that_o have_v be_v say_v water-baptism_n ought_v to_o go_v before_o church-membership_a show_v i_o one_o in_o all_o the_o new-testament_n that_o be_v receive_v into_o fellowship_n without_o it_o answ_n sure_o j._n bunyan_n when_o thou_o do_v pen_v this_o objection_n thy_o craft_n deceive_v thou_o and_o thou_o do_v not_o see_v how_o thou_o have_v ensnare_v thyself_o what_o answer_n can_v thou_o make_v john_n bunyan_n will_v say_v he_o have_v a_o ready_a answer_n which_o consist_v in_o two_o part_n first_o say_v he_o pag._n 91._o that_o water-baptism_n have_v former_o go_v first_o be_v grant_v but_o that_o it_o ought_v of_o necessity_n so_o to_o do_v i_o never_o see_v proof_n second_o he_o say_v none_o ever_o receive_v it_o without_o light_n etc._n etc._n reply_n first_o john_n bunyan_n here_o confess_v that_o water-baptism_n go_v before_o church-membership_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n well_o say_v john_n bunyan_n thou_o have_v give_v away_o the_o cause_n and_o overthrow_v thyself_o if_o it_o do_v so_o then_o sure_o it_o must_v now_o for_o we_o be_v to_o walk_v according_a to_o their_o example_n phil._n 3.17_o it_o seem_v god_n be_v strong_a and_o wise_a too_o than_o the_o devil_n he_o have_v make_v a_o hedge_n about_o water-baptism_n that_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v violate_v but_o instead_o thereof_o acknowledge_v for_o truth_n even_o by_o its_o enemy_n but_o john_n bunyan_n say_v he_o never_o see_v it_o prove_v to_o be_v of_o necessity_n answ_n what_o john_n bunyan_n how_o now_o do_v the_o apostle_n practise_v general_o what_o they_o ought_v not_o sure_o in_o plain_a term_n thou_o will_v not_o say_v so_o and_o if_o not_o so_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n and_o there_o be_v necessity_n for_o they_o to_o do_v their_o duty_n but_o then_o second_o john_n bunyan_n say_v none_o ever_o receive_v it_o without_o light_n go_v before_o answ_n see_v if_o this_o man_n be_v not_o stupefy_v in_o his_o sense_n whilst_o he_o contend_v against_o the_o truth_n for_o he_o have_v lose_v the_o matter_n in_o question_n who_o ever_o pretend_v that_o any_o receive_a baptism_n upon_o good_a ground_n without_o light_n in_o it_o the_o question_n be_v not_o who_o have_v light_a therein_o but_o who_o ought_v to_o have_v light_n therein_o viz._n whether_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o christian_n before_o church-membership_a to_o be_v baptize_v wherein_o for_o answer_n i_o will_v offer_v john_n bunyan_n own_o word_n baptism_n say_v he_o pag._n 122._o be_v a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o those_o who_o receive_v the_o gospel_n again_o pag._n 82._o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n it_o be_v general_o practise_v first_o viz._n before_o church-communion_n yea_o so_o as_o the_o unconvert_v themselves_o know_v it_o belong_v to_o the_o disciple_n of_o jesus_n christ_n what_o can_v we_o have_v more_o than_o be_v here_o acknowledge_v sure_o if_o it_o be_v so_o general_o practise_v before_o communion_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n it_o ought_v to_o be_v so_o now_o do_v the_o unconvert_v then_o know_v it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o christ_n disciple_n to_o be_v baptize_v as_o aforesaid_a and_o must_v it_o be_v question_v now_o by_o john_n bunyan_n or_o any_o pretend_v themselves_o christian_n be_v it_o then_o a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o those_o that_o receive_v the_o gospel_n and_o be_v it_o not_o so_o now_o sure_o yea_o it_o may_v from_o hence_o be_v hope_v that_o john_n bunyan_n be_v become_v a_o new_a man_n and_o repent_v what_o he_o pretend_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o book_n but_o stay_v he_o be_v present_o of_o another_o mind_n for_o he_o again_o say_v pag._n 82._o that_o all_o that_o be_v receive_v into_o fellowship_n be_v even_o then_o baptize_v first_o will_v strain_v a_o weak_a man_n wit_n to_o prove_v if_o argument_n be_v close_o make_v from_o these_o three_o text_n of_o holy_a scripture_n 1_o cor._n 1.14_o gal._n 3.27_o rom._n 6.3_o what_o john_n bunyan_n be_v thou_o so_o unstable_a i_o now_o understand_v plain_o that_o text_n of_o scripture_n jam._n 1.8_o a_o double-minded_n man_n be_v unstable_a in_o all_o his_o way_n for_o he_o that_o waver_v be_v like_o a_o wave_n of_o the_o sea_n drive_v with_o the_o wind_n and_o toss_v even_o so_o be_v this_o man_n who_o in_o the_o same_o page_n of_o a_o little_a treatise_n confess_v baptism_n to_o be_v a_o general_a practice_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n before_o communion_n and_o yet_o again_o say_v it_o will_v strain_v a_o weak_a man_n wit_n to_o prove_v it_o but_o sure_o john_n bunyan_n mean_v a_o fool_n that_o know_v not_o to_o prove_v any_o thing_n and_o such_o a_o one_o as_o he_o can_v in_o john_n bunyan_n apprehension_n maintain_v will_v never_o hurt_v the_o practice_n of_o baptism_n otherwise_o it_o may_v be_v prove_v from_o his_o own_o confession_n if_o that_o be_v worth_a any_o thing_n but_o it_o seem_v that_o may_v be_v contradict_v if_o argument_n be_v close_o make_v upon_o the_o aforementioned_a text_n wherein_o i_o shall_v advise_v john_n bunyan_n since_o he_o think_v so_o the_o next_o time_n he_o meddle_v in_o the_o derogation_n of_o baptism_n to_o make_v his_o argument_n from_o they_o but_o sir_n if_o you_o do_v pray_v according_a to_o your_o own_o word_n do_v they_o more_o close_o than_o you_o have_v already_o otherwise_o your_o fallacy_n will_v be_v discover_v and_o your_o argument_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n but_o i_o perceive_v he_o be_v willing_a as_o he_o say_v pag._n 82._o to_o pass_v those_o text_n at_o present_a and_o instead_o of_o make_v argument_n thence-from_a pretend_v that_o if_o we_o can_v show_v the_o
in_o vain_a thus_o god_n deal_v with_o man_n whereof_o he_o complain_v isa_n 49.4_o i_o have_v labour_v in_o vain_a i_o have_v spend_v my_o strength_n for_o nought_o and_o in_o vain_a insomuch_o that_o in_o justification_n of_o himself_o against_o john_n bunyan_n and_o such_o other_o he_o appeal_v to_o his_o enemy_n in_o the_o case_n viz._n judge_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o can_v i_o have_v do_v more_o for_o sinner_n than_o i_o have_v do_v isa_n 5.4_o i_o have_v give_v my_o son_n to_o redeem_v they_o from_o death_n and_o in_o he_o i_o have_v also_o offer_v they_o eternal_a salvation_n which_o i_o have_v invite_v they_o to_o embrace_v and_o also_o endeavour_v to_o effect_v in_o their_o heart_n by_o the_o motion_n of_o my_o holy_a spirit_n for_o the_o operation_n whereof_o i_o have_v wait_v even_o until_o i_o perceive_v all_o my_o endeavour_n to_o be_v in_o vain_a my_o spirit_n be_v resist_v and_o in_o despite_n thereof_o they_o have_v persist_v in_o wickedness_n wherein_o what_o can_v i_o 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that_o the_o death_n of_o abner_n be_v not_o of_o the_o king_n but_o far_o contrary_a to_o his_o mind_n and_o sure_o also_o we_o may_v conclude_v from_o what_o have_v be_v allege_v that_o the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v not_o of_o our_o god_n he_o never_o determine_v any_o such_o thing_n neither_o be_v he_o any_o way_n the_o cause_n thereof_o it_o be_v far_o from_o he_o whereby_o as_o we_o may_v perceive_v the_o death_n of_o sinner_n be_v altogether_o of_o themselves_o and_o not_o by_o or_o through_o god_n blind_a they_o so_o the_o order_n of_o his_o election_n may_v be_v perceive_v contrary_a to_o john_n bunyan_n faith_n the_o confession_n whereof_o i_o have_v now_o do_v with_o have_v offer_v thus_o much_o because_o that_o god_n be_v much_o dishonour_v and_o many_o people_n deceive_v through_o the_o not_o understand_v these_o thing_n i_o come_v now_o to_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n in_o worship_n j.b._n pag._n 48._o wherein_o he_o first_o distinguish_v between_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n and_o those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v have_v communion_n with_o i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v concern_v what_o he_o say_v touch_v those_o with_o who_o he_o dare_v not_o have_v communion_n i_o shall_v leave_v he_o unto_o himself_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o those_o who_o do_v not_o profess_v faith_n and_o holiness_n yea_o the_o open_a profane_a may_v be_v near_a heaven_n than_o those_o that_o pretend_v great_a zeal_n without_o knowledge_n our_o saviour_n say_v of_o old_a matth._n 21.31_o that_o the_o publican_n and_o harlot_n enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n before_o you_o but_o i_o shall_v now_o consider_v what_o j._n b._n say_v concern_v who_o he_o dare_v which_o he_o thus_o declare_v i_o dare_v have_v communion_n yea_o church-communion_n with_o those_o that_o be_v visible_a saint_n by_o call_v with_o those_o that_o by_o the_o word_n of_o the_o gospel_n have_v be_v bring_v over_o to_o faith_n and_o holiness_n pag._n 65._o although_o as_o afterward_o he_o declare_v as_o well_o as_o in_o his_o title_n page_n they_o dissent_v about_o water-baptism_n answ_n if_o j._n bunyan_n have_v only_o say_v this_o i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v gainsay_v nay_o if_o he_o have_v tell_v we_o that_o he_o can_v have_v communion_n with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o know_v not_o who_o will_v have_v oppose_v he_o except_o the_o catholic_n themselves_z who_o peradventure_o consider_v the_o error_n of_o his_o faith_n will_v not_o judge_v he_o fit_a for_o communion_n with_o they_o but_o john_n bunyan_n proceed_v to_o persuade_v other_o to_o do_v the_o same_o and_o therefore_o he_o urge_v great_o the_o reason_n of_o his_o practice_n to_o draw_v disciple_n after_o he_o i_o wish_v the_o event_n be_v not_o as_o christ_n say_v to_o the_o pharisee_n matt._n 23.15_o you_o compass_n sea_n and_o land_n to_o make_v one_o proselyte_n and_o when_o he_o be_v make_v you_o make_v he_o twofold_a more_o the_o child_n of_o hell_n but_o 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what_o he_o have_v say_v will_v be_v the_o rule_n propose_v by_o himself_o but_o herein_o have_v not_o john_n bunyan_n forget_v himself_o pag._n 64._o he_o acknowledge_v water-baptism_n to_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o such_o as_o have_v receive_v the_o gospel_n before_o yet_o now_o he_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o discovery_n of_o faith_n and_o holiness_n or_o a_o declaration_n of_o willingness_n to_o subject_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n pag._n 122_o 123._o what_o impudent_a contradiction_n be_v here_o a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n a_o holy_a ordinance_n a_o duty_n enjoin_v to_o gospel-receiver_n and_o yet_o no_o discovery_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o faith_n discover_v by_o work_n jam._n 2.17_o and_o by_o what_o work_v if_o not_o obedience_n to_o
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