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A31440 Independencie a great schism proved against Dr. Owen, his apology in his tract of schism : as also an appendix to the former discourse, shewing the inconstancy of the Dr. and the inconsistency of his former and present opinions / by D. Cawdrey ... Cawdrey, Daniel, 1588-1664. 1657 (1657) Wing C1630; ESTC R8915 103,968 258

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bishop_n say_v other_o and_o they_o ordain_v presbyter_n subordinate_a unto_o they_o or_o as_o he_o style_v they_o parochial_a priest_n p._n 235_o the_o presbyterian_o say_v the_o apostle_n first_o make_v presbyter_n and_o give_v they_o power_n to_o rule_v their_o particular_a church_n and_o as_o occasion_v require_v to_o meet_v together_o by_o delegate_n in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n as_o that_o ●t_a jerusalem_n consist_v partly_o of_o elder_n with_o the_o apostle_n 2._o they_o lay_v the_o rise_n of_o ministerial_a power_n to_o be_v universal_a as_o well_o as_o the_o prelate_n suppose_v a_o minister_n to_o be_v a_o minister_n in_o what_o part_n soever_o of_o the_o world_n his_o lot_n happen_v to_o be_v and_o do_v not_o upon_o his_o removal_n give_v he_o a_o new_a ordination_n though_o he_o may_v not_o for_o order_n sake_n exercise_v that_o power_n but_o when_o and_o where_o he_o have_v a_o call_n 3._o that_o call_n may_v be_v different_a 1._o as_o he_o be_v call_v to_o take_v 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251._o they_o do_v not_o say_v that_o be_v under_o one_o ciu●ll_a government_n do_v constitute_v a_o nationall_n church_n for_o if_o so_o say_v he_o its_o form_n and_o unity_n as_o such_o must_v be_v give_v it_o by_o the_o civil_a government_n for_o the_o unity_n thereof_o consist_v still_o in_o the_o agreement_n in_o the_o same_o doctrine_n and_o worship_n and_o not_o in_o the_o model_n of_o civil_a government_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o 250._o p._n 250._o and_o if_o he_o allow_v as_o he_o do_v a_o association_n of_o the_o delegate_n from_o several_a church_n to_o meet_v for_o matter_n of_o common_a concernment_n by_o the_o same_o reason_n whether_o it_o be_v by_o institution_n or_o prudence_n he_o must_v allow_v those_o subordinate_a assembly_n for_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n teach_v the_o necessity_n of_o appeal_v in_o male-administrations_a for_o end_v of_o trouble_n and_o decision_n of_o difference_n in_o particular_a congregation_n as_o be_v instance_a in_o the_o
speak_v and_o like_o a_o true_a presbyterian_a to_o cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v separation_n be_v to_o rend_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o what_o be_v that_o but_o schism_n which_o be_v so_o much_o declame_v against_o in_o his_o book_n of_o schism_n and_o what_o liberty_n his_o people_n take_v and_o he_o allow_v for_o separation_n from_o not_o we_o but_o any_o church_n be_v full_o discourse_v above_o to_o separate_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n be_v also_o affirm_v to_o be_v a_o breach_n of_o sacred_a charity_n which_o be_v often_o deny_v in_o the_o latter_a book_n but_o yet_o more_o presbyterian_a doctrine_n man_n ought_v not_o under_o a_o pretence_n of_o congregate_a themselves_o to_o serve_v god_n separate_a from_o their_o brethren_n neglect_v the_o public_a assembly_n as_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o some_o rebuke_v by_o the_o apostle_n heb._n 10.5_o there_o be_v peculiar_a blessing_n and_o transcendent_a privilege_n annex_v to_o public_a assembly_n which_o accompany_v not_o private_a man_n to_o their_o recess_n etc._n etc._n yet_o this_o be_v ordinariry_o do_v by_o most_o of_o the_o independent_a way_n and_o allow_v yea_o justify_v now_o by_o himself_o that_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n heb._n 10.25_o of_o neglect_v the_o public_a assembly_n as_o the_o manner_n of_o many_o be_v be_v now_o otherwise_o gloss_v and_o take_v for_o apostasy_n from_o the_o faith_n of_o schism_n p._n 74._o and_o the_o event_n have_v sad_o prove_v that_o private_a recess_n be_v not_o accompany_v with_o those_o peculiar_a blessing_n annex_v to_o public_a assembly_n witness_v those_o error_n heresy_n blasphemy_n prophaness_n which_o have_v follow_v private_a meeting_n §_o 45_o another_o caution_n and_o the_o three_o be_v as_o the_o ministry_n 49._o p._n 49._o so_o also_o ought_v the_o minister_n to_o have_v that_o regard_n respect_n and_o obedience_n which_o be_v due_a to_o their_o labour_n in_o that_o sacred_a call_n will_v we_o can_v not_o too_o frequent_o see_v more_o puff_v up_o with_o a_o conceit_n of_o their_o own_o gift_n into_o a_o contempt_n of_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o pious_a pastor_n those_o be_v spot_n in_o your_o feast_n of_o charity_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v so_o plain_a and_o evident_o true_a as_o if_o he_o that_o write_v it_o carry_v the_o sun_n in_o his_o hand_n and_o he_o do_v in_o a_o manner_n prophesy_v when_o he_o say_v let_v not_o they_o who_o despise_v a_o faithful_a minister_n in_o public_a flatter_v themselves_o with_o hope_n of_o a_o blessing_n on_o their_o endeavour_n in_o private_a let_v they_o pretend_v what_o they_o will_v they_o have_v not_o a_o equal_a respect_n unto_o all_o god_n ordinance_n no_o doubt_v he_o speak_v then_o of_o our_o parochial_a minister_n and_o ministry_n as_o a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n who_o now_o he_o unminister_v and_o despise_v both_o they_o and_o their_o ordination_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v above_o viderit_fw-la ipse_fw-la §_o 16_o it_o may_v be_v object_v against_o the_o people_n liberty_n of_o private_a assembly_n that_o this_o seem_v to_o favour_v licentious_a conventicle_n which_o in_o all_o place_n the_o law_n have_v condemn_v and_o the_o learned_a in_o all_o age_n have_v abhor_v as_o seminary_n of_o faction_n and_o schism_n in_o the_o church_n to_o this_o he_o answer_v li●e_z a_o true_a presbyterian_a 51._o p._n 51._o under_o corre●tion_n i_o conceive_v that_o the_o law_n lay_v hold_v of_o none_o as_o peccant_a in_o such_o a_o kind_n but_o only_o those_o who_o have_v predeclare_v themselves_o to_o be_v opposer_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n in_o the_o public_a assembly_n of_o that_o church_n wherein_o they_o live_v neither_o do_v i_o conceive_v that_o they_o ought_v at_o all_o to_o be_v allo●●d_v the_o benefit_n of_o private_a meeting_n who_o wilful_o abstain_v from_o the_o public_a congregation_n so_o long_o as_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n be_v hold_v forth_o in_o they_o enough_o enough_o now_o what_o a_o case_n be_v all_o the_o conventicle_n of_o sectary_n in_o the_o very_a seminary_n of_o schism_n &_o faction_n and_o beside_o a_o sink_n of_o error_n heresy_n &_o blasphemy_n the_o only_a evasion_n will_v be_v one_o of_o these_o two_o 1._o that_o he_o speak_v this_o under_o correction_n as_o not_o his_o peremptory_a judgement_n and_o its_o likely_a he_o have_v come_v under_o correction_n of_o his_o party_n and_o do_v some_o kind_n of_o penance_n for_o this_o declaration_n 52._o p._n 16._o p._n 52._o and_o it_o may_v be_v his_o latin_a discourse_n he_o tell_v we_o of_o twice_o at_o least_o as_o a_o answer_n to_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o remonstrant_n and_o other_o for_o such_o a_o liberty_n of_o prophecying_n as_o they_o term_v it_o have_v suffer_v strangle_v upon_o his_o correction_n for_o i_o hear_v not_o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o land_n of_o the_o live_n yet_o bear_v or_o put_v forth_o for_o if_o it_o be_v it_o will_v condemn_v his_o own_o ●aw_v allowance_n and_o toleration_n of_o such_o conventicle_n that_o be_v one_o or_o 2._o he_o must_v affirm_v that_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n be_v not_o hold_v forth_o in_o our_o congregation_n which_o i_o hope_v he_o will_v not_o dare_v to_o do_v nor_o can_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v if_o he_o do_v affirm_v it_o what_o his_o performance_n in_o this_o kind_n be_v to_o plead_v for_o his_o separation_n we_o have_v see_v above_o and_o to_o how_o little_a satisfaction_n §_o 17_o there_o be_v two_o other_o objection_n which_o he_o answer_v well_o as_o his_o then_o opinion_n be_v i_o shall_v dispatch_v they_o in_o a_o word_n 1._o man_n be_v apt_a to_o pride_n themselves_o in_o their_o gift_n and_o so_o to_o encroach_v on_o the_o priest_n office_n and_o create_v themselves_o pastor_n in_o separate_a congregation_n this_o we_o see_v do_v sufficient_o now_o by_o other_o and_o himself_o what_o say_v he_o to_o it_o offence_n will_v come_v etc._n etc._n but_o god-fearing_n man_n will_v remember_v korah_n 53._o p._n 53._o they_o that_o love_v their_o soul_n will_v not_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v carry_v away_o by_o self-conceit_n so_o far_o as_o to_o help_v to_o overthrow_v the_o very_a constitution_n of_o any_o church_n by_o confusion_n or_o the_o flourish_a of_o it_o by_o ignorance_n both_o which_o will_v certain_o follow_v such_o course_n this_o need_v no_o comment_n nor_o confirmation_n only_o it_o will_v need_v a_o reply_n from_o himself_o since_o he_o have_v retract_v this_o truth_n by_o he_o here_o deliver_v by_o a_o contrary_a practice_n the_o next_o objection_n be_v no_o less_o true_a and_o real_o exemplify_v in_o the_o present_a conventicle_n this_o may_v be_v a_o mean_n for_o man_n to_o vent_v their_o own_o private_a fancy_n unto_o other_o to_o foment_n and_o cherish_v error_n in_o one_o another_o to_o give_v false_a interpretation_n of_o the_o word_n there_o be_v no_o way_n to_o prevent_v it_o what_o say_v he_o to_o this_o for_o interpret_n the_o word_n i_o speak_v not_o 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befor●_n do_v put_v in_o p._n 5●_n l._n 4._o ●_o affirm_v p._n 60._o l._n 〈◊〉_d f._n tot_o r._n yet_o p._n 65._o l._n 24._o f._n mind_n r._n include_v p_o 66._o l._n 21._o r._n exhort_v one_o p._n 70._o l._n 10._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 72._o mark_fw-mi r._n p._n 77._o p._n 85._o l._n 27._o f._n l._n r._n it_o p._n 8●_n l._n 26._o f._n to_o r._n so_o p._n 94._o l._n 7._o deal_n of_o p._n 104._o l._n 2d_o f._n err_v r._n ere_o p._n 110._o l._n 12._o r._n assert_v deal_n to_o ●_o 113._o l._n 27._o r._n concessis_fw-la p._n 114._o l._n 29._o r._n fundamental_a p._n 115._o l._n 22._o f._n it_o r._n he_o p._n 120._o l._n 1._o after_o r._n ask_v p._n 133._o l._n 9_o deal_n to_o p._n 141._o l._n 1●_n f._n it_o r._n be_v p._n 143._o l._n 5_o f._n world_n r._n word_n p_o 158._o 5._o of_o f._n as_o proper_o r._n improper_o p._n 159._o l._n of_o for_o his_o r._n this_o p._n 167._o l._n 12._o deal_n they_o p._n 16_o l._n 3._o f._n you_o r._n she_o p._n 170._o l._n 3._o of_o for_o r._n 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