Selected quad for the lemma: duty_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
duty_n	christian_a	church_n	communion_n	1,356	5	8.6056	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A88947	A modest & brotherly ansvver to Mr. Charles Herle his book, against the independency of churches. Wherein his foure arguments for the government of synods over particular congregations, are friendly examined, and clearly answered. Together, with Christian and loving animadversions upon sundry other observable passages in the said booke. All tending to declare the true use of synods, and the power of congregationall churches in the points of electing and ordaining their owne officers, and censuring their offendors. By Richard Mather teacher of the Church at Dorchester; and William Tompson pastor of the Church at Braintree in New-England. Sent from thence after the assembly of elders were dissolved that last met at Cambridg to debate matters about church-government.	Mather, Richard, 1596-1669.; Tompson, William, d. 1666.	1644 (1644)	Wing M1274; Thomason E37_19; ESTC R16954	50,642	62

congregation_n in_o israel_n do_v depend_v on_o the_o ministerial_a government_n of_o a_o synod_n nor_o will_v it_o follow_v that_o we_o must_v be_v dependent_a as_o they_o be_v touch_v the_o former_a of_o these_o to_o speak_v first_o of_o the_o minor_a proposition_n suppose_v it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o congregation_n in_o israel_n do_v depend_v upon_o the_o government_n of_o the_o judicatory_n or_o assembly_n mention_v in_o those_o text_n yet_o that_o do_v not_o prove_v they_o depend_v upon_o a_o synod_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o judicatory_n there_o mention_v be_v not_o any_o synod_n at_o all_o but_o assembly_n of_o another_o nature_n for_o first_o synod_n as_o yourselves_o describe_v they_o pag_n 2._o be_v assembly_n consist_v of_o the_o several_a pastor_n who_o together_o with_o such_o other_o member_n as_o shall_v be_v think_v fit_a the_o several_a congregation_n be_v respective_o to_o choose_v and_o send_v thereto_o but_o those_o judicatory_n in_o deut._n 17._o and_o the_o other_o scripture_n do_v not_o consist_v of_o any_o pastor_n or_o member_n who_o the_o several_a congregation_n do_v choose_v and_o send_v thereto_o but_o of_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n of_o the_o judge_n and_o chief_a of_o the_o father_n of_o israel_n which_o be_v constant_o resident_a at_o jerusalem_n the_o place_n which_o the_o lord_n have_v choose_v and_o the_o several_a congregation_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v either_o to_o choose_v they_o or_o send_v they_o second_o these_o jndicatories_n at_o jerusalem_n be_v stand_v court_n and_o be_v constant_o to_o continue_v and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o synod_n for_o synod_n be_v not_o wont_a to_o stand_v and_o continue_v but_o only_o till_o they_o have_v end_v the_o business_n which_o be_v the_o occasion_n of_o call_v they_o and_o then_o to_o be_v dissolve_v and_o end_v three_o mr._n page_n out_o of_o who_o it_o seem_v this_o argument_n and_o much_o of_o the_o discourse_n about_o it_o be_v take_v do_v confess_v 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