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A62665 The bar to free admission to the Lords Supper removed, or, A vindication of Mr. Humfreys free admission to the sacrament of the Lords Supper wherein the most materiall exceptions and objections of Doctor Drake against it in his book called A bar to free admission &c. are taken off and answered : whereunto is annexed an expostulatory speech unto them of the Congragationall way : and also an examination of the book called A Scripture rail to the communion table, by some ministers in Glocester-shire / by John Timson. Timson, John. 1654 (1654) Wing T1293; ESTC R25821 78,655 229

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intend_v the_o manner_n of_o eat_v but_o they_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v intend_v of_o the_o worthiness_n of_o the_o man_n that_o eat_v and_o upon_o this_o error_n be_v ground_v all_o that_o these_o man_n have_v to_o say_v against_o m._n h._n book_n i_o can_v wish_v they_o will_v better_o consider_v of_o it_o for_o still_o i_o say_v the_o corinthian_n be_v commend_v for_o keep_v this_o ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o in_o the_o church_n and_o reprove_v only_o for_o some_o great_a abuse_n in_o their_o manner_n of_o carry_v on_o that_o service_n the_o which_o abuse_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o come_v unworthy_o nor_o in_o their_o other_o miscarriage_n which_o be_v many_o upon_o other_o occasion_n but_o in_o this_o their_o abuse_n of_o the_o holy_a sign_n unto_o c●●nall_n and_o common_a end_n for_o this_o 〈…〉_o and_o sickly_a among_o they_o an_z 〈…〉_o so_o that_o this_o place_n can_v be_v urge_v against_o any_o that_o be_v christian_n and_o ex●●nally_o at_o least_o comm●●_n to_o 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worship_n be_v for_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v his_o elect_a one_o lose_a sheep_n and_o child_n of_o god_n among_o the_o natural_a seed_n of_o christian_n or_o to_o come_v of_o they_o as_o he_o have_v among_o the_o jew_n and_o these_o elect_a one_o he_o be_v please_v more_o saving_o to_o call_v some_o at_o the_o three_o hour_n other_o not_o until_o the_o eleven_o hour_n of_o the_o day_n of_o grace_n vouchsafe_v to_o they_o and_o these_o be_v the_o special_a object_n of_o redemption_n include_v in_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n to_o who_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o first_o grace_n do_v proper_o belong_v we_o must_v suffer_v jesus_n christ_n to_o have_v the_o liberty_n of_o his_o own_o appointment_n in_o the_o church_n as_o the_o only_a mean_n of_o gather_v in_o such_o unto_o himself_o that_o they_o may_v have_v life_n in_o he_o
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where_o there_o be_v mention_v make_v of_o the_o apostle_n exercise_v of_o discipline_n it_o be_v only_o upon_o particular_a person_n and_o not_o upon_o a_o multitude_n when_o he_o find_v many_o guilty_a of_o evil_a practice_n he_o reprove_v admonish_v and_o threaten_v to_o come_v with_o the_o rod_n 2_o cor._n 12.20_o &_o 13.21_o 1_o cor._n 4.21_o and_o true_o as_o the_o state_n of_o thing_n now_o stand_v i_o think_v it_o will_v be_v find_v a_o very_a difficult_a thing_n to_o get_v into_o possession_n of_o the_o true_a way_n of_o discipline_n and_o to_o make_v that_o use_n of_o it_o that_o the_o church_n peace_n and_o edification_n may_v be_v promote_v and_o not_o prejudice_v by_o it_o for_o either_o the_o suppose_a unregenerate_a in_o the_o church_n shall_v on_o the_o one_o hand_n be_v cast_v off_o and_o separate_v from_o as_o in_o the_o independent_a way_n and_o some_o other_o or_o else_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n the_o dissent_v brethren_n will_v be_v judge_v schismatical_a for_o cause_v division_n and_o separation_n in_o the_o church_n contrary_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o therefore_o our_o condition_n be_v the_o more_o sad_a in_o that_o discipline_n which_o tend_v so_o much_o to_o the_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n can_v so_o hardly_o be_v attain_v among_o we_o thus_o i_o have_v give_v you_o my_o judgement_n and_o apprehension_n in_o this_o point_n now_o in_o the_o next_o place_n because_o these_o gentleman_n have_v commend_v a_o way_n of_o discipline_n to_o the_o godly_a i_o shall_v crave_v leave_v a_o little_a to_o examine_v it_o whether_o it_o be_v such_o a_o one_o as_o godly_a man_n may_v safe_o receive_v and_o use_v as_o the_o discipline_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o not_o rather_o reject_v it_o as_o have_v nothing_o of_o christ_n in_o the_o rise_n and_o root_n of_o it_o according_a to_o holy_a scripture_n and_o this_o i_o shall_v do_v very_o brief_o because_o i_o have_v say_v so_o much_o to_o the_o point_n already_o 1._o it_o be_v well_o they_o acknowledge_v our_o parochial_a congregation_n to_o be_v true_a church_n though_o it_o be_v but_o in_o a_o large_a sense_n for_o be_v such_o they_o come_v under_o the_o same_o law_n and_o privilege_n external_o which_o belong_v to_o true_a church_n in_o the_o strict_a sense_n that_o be_v unless_o they_o can_v find_v a_o different_a rule_n in_o scripture_n for_o true_a church_n though_o not_o in_o the_o same_o degree_n of_o purity_n which_o i_o believe_v they_o can_v because_o i_o do_v not_o find_v but_o laodicea_n and_o philadelphia_n as_o they_o be_v both_o true_a church_n so_o they_o be_v both_o under_o the_o same_o rule_n etc._n etc._n 2._o they_o confess_v that_o none_o but_o such_o as_o be_v already_o excommunicate_v and_o such_o as_o ought_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v keep_v from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o this_o mr._n h._n and_o they_o seem_v to_o be_v agree_v pag._n 27._o provide_v say_v they_o that_o mr._n h._n mean_v such_o as_o of_o right_a aught_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o church_n for_o his_o meaning_n they_o may_v be_v sure_o he_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o church_n member_n shall_v be_v censure_v without_o regular_a trial_n and_o that_o by_o a_o church_n that_o be_v in_o a_o fit_a capacity_n to_o hear_v and_o judge_n and_o sentence_n according_a to_o divine_a rule_n but_o how_o will_v these_o gentleman_n prove_v that_o the_o great_a part_n in_o a_o parish_n be_v such_o as_o of_o right_a aught_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o never_o put_v it_o to_o the_o trial_n whether_o their_o sinfulness_n be_v of_o that_o nature_n for_o which_o excommunication_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v inflict_v it_o be_v obstinacy_n and_o wilful_a persist_v in_o gross_a sin_n after_o private_a and_o public_a admonition_n that_o be_v to_o be_v punish_v with_o excommunication_n and_o how_o can_v they_o know_v that_o the_o great_a part_n of_o a_o parish_n do_v so_o sin_n when_o they_o never_o admonish_v they_o either_o private_o or_o public_o sure_o there_o must_v be_v a_o clear_a conviction_n of_o their_o sin_n and_o all_o fair_a and_o amicable_a christian_a mean_n use_v to_o reclaim_v they_o before_o they_o can_v judge_v any_o in_o their_o parish_n excommunicable_a be_v they_o in_o a_o capacity_n thus_o authoritative_o to_o deal_v with_o they_o which_o i_o think_v they_o be_v not_o 3._o but_o they_o say_v this_o be_v a_o most_o general_o receive_v truth_n that_o every_o particular_a congregation_n have_v power_n in_o itself_o to_o reform_v itself_o according_a to_o what_o shall_v be_v practicable_a to_o they_o pag._n 158._o to_o which_o i_o shall_v oppose_v their_o own_o word_n pag._n 7.10_o where_o first_o they_o say_v that_o the_o ignorant_a and_o profane_a must_v be_v withdraw_v from_o because_o it_o be_v clear_a they_o can_v be_v regular_o cast_v out_o by_o discipline_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o way_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v right_o excommunicate_v for_o that_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v corrupt_a and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v well_o suppose_v of_o most_o of_o the_o mix_v parochial_a congregation_n in_o england_n and_o will_v not_o excommunicate_v nor_o be_v fit_a to_o do_v so_o nor_o to_o choose_v officer_n to_o do_v it_o pag._n 9_o 10._o now_o be_v not_o this_o a_o strange_a thing_n they_o condemn_v mr._n humphrey_n for_o not_o set_v up_o discipline_n in_o his_o church_n and_o strong_o assert_v that_o every_o congregation_n have_v power_n to_o reform_v itself_o and_o yet_o they_o say_v it_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o ignorant_a and_o profane_a can_v be_v regular_o cast_v out_o by_o discipline_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o way_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v right_o excommunicate_v reader_n can_v thou_o desire_v a_o better_a justification_n of_o mr._n humfreys_n present_a practice_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o sacrament_n than_o these_o man_n own_o word_n if_o he_o can_v reform_v in_o a_o right_a way_n must_v he_o and_o other_o undergo_v reproach_n because_o they_o dare_v not_o exercise_v discipline_n in_o a_o wrong_a way_n as_o these_o gentleman_n do_v there_o be_v many_o sober_a and_o godly_a minister_n that_o judge_v it_o better_o not_o to_o pretend_v to_o discipline_n at_o all_o then_o to_o take_v up_o that_o way_n to_o which_o some_o give_v the_o name_n when_o there_o be_v nothing_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o true_a discipline_n if_o we_o can_v exercise_v it_o aright_o why_o shall_v any_o be_v censure_v for_o not_o exercise_v it_o wrong_v to_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v the_o apostle_n judge_v damnable_a so_o rare_o it_o be_v that_o good_a end_n and_o evil_a mean_n stand_v together_o but_o they_o say_v object_n if_o they_o can_v regular_o excommunicate_v the_o ignorant_a and_o scandalous_a that_o be_v excommunicable_a than_o the_o minister_n and_o those_o that_o be_v convince_v of_o their_o duty_n to_o come_v up_o to_o a_o more_o close_a communion_n and_o fellowship_n in_o the_o gospel_n must_v withdraw_v from_o the_o corrupt_a majority_n and_o wait_v for_o their_o come_n in_o upon_o the_o same_o term_n agree_v upon_o by_o the_o minor_a part_n and_o for_o this_o they_o commend_v to_o we_o mat._n 18._o 1._o answ_n it_o be_v very_o harsh_a to_o say_v that_o the_o ignorant_a in_o the_o church_n be_v for_o that_o excommunicable_a they_o may_v express_v their_o desire_n to_o learn_v and_o use_v the_o mean_n appoint_v to_o that_o end_n and_o so_o not_o be_v excommunicable_a nor_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o and_o for_o the_o scandalous_a they_o be_v to_o be_v try_v as_o be_v hint_v before_o and_o then_o excommunicate_v if_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n else_o they_o shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o a_o special_a ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n intend_v as_o the_o last_o remedy_n to_o convert_v the_o obstinate_a sinner_n from_o his_o evil_a way_n and_o as_o