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certaynlie_o brethren_n none_o be_v so_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o yourselves_o and_o your_o associate_n for_o you_o have_v now_o make_v some_o thing_n to_o be_v esteem_v necessary_a by_o your_o follower_n which_o have_v be_v account_v indifferent_a not_o only_o since_o the_o reformation_n but_o these_o fifteen_o hundred_o year_n bygone_a and_o in_o some_o other_o thing_n which_o the_o ancient_a church_n do_v wyselie_o forbid_v you_o do_v now_o make_v the_o liberty_n and_o purity_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o consist_v as_o for_o we_o we_o stand_v as_o we_o stand_v before_o and_o do_v yet_o think_v kneel_v in_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o five_o festival_n day_n to_o be_v rite_n indifferent_a in_o their_o own_o nature_n but_o indeed_o very_o profitable_a and_o edificative_a if_o pastor_n will_v do_v their_o duty_n in_o make_v their_o people_n sensible_a of_o the_o lawfulness_n and_o expediencie_n of_o they_o 54._o we_o be_v of_o the_o same_o judgement_n concern_v confirmation_n which_o calvin_n write_v upon_o hebr._n 6._o 2._o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v undoubtedlie_o delyver_v to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o with_o the_o same_o author_n in_o the_o four_o book_n of_o his_o institut_n cap._n 19_o §_o 14._o we_o wish_v that_o the_o use_n of_o it_o be_v again_o restore_v so_o far_o be_v we_o from_o that_o partial_a deal_n with_o the_o article_n of_o pearth_n which_o you_o object_v unto_o us._n what_o have_v move_v our_o most_o reverend_a prelate_n to_o abstain_v hitherto_o from_o the_o practise_n of_o it_o we_o know_v not_o they_o can_v themselves_o best_o satisfy_v you_o in_o this_o point_n and_o we_o modest_o judge_v that_o this_o omission_n have_v proceed_v from_o weyghtie_a &_o regardable_a cause_n it_o be_v sufficient_a for_o we_o to_o have_v a_o care_n of_o our_o own_o duty_n in_o our_o particular_a station_n but_o the_o urge_v and_o press_v of_o that_o practice_n upon_o the_o bishop_n require_v high_a authority_n than_o we_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n you_o know_v the_o bishop_n never_o disclaim_v the_o authority_n of_o that_o act_n of_o pearth_n concern_v confirmation_n or_o of_o any_o other_o of_o these_o act_n as_o you_o have_v do_v who_o have_v be_v hitherto_o profess_v and_o avow_a disobeyer_n of_o they_o all_o wherefore_o we_o wish_v you_o hereafter_o not_o to_o bring_v this_o omission_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o confirmation_n as_o a_o argument_n for_o that_o forbearance_n of_o pearth_n article_n which_o you_o require_v of_o we_o for_o there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o the_o omission_n of_o a_o duty_n command_v by_o a_o law_n and_o a_o avow_a or_o profess_v yea_o swear_a disobedience_n of_o the_o law_n 55._o last_o of_o all_o whereas_o you_o say_v that_o we_o by_o maintain_v the_o necessity_n of_o private_a baptism_n &_o communion_n do_v condemn_v the_o practice_n of_o this_o our_o church_n from_o the_o reformation_n till_o pearth_n assembly_n &_o put_v no_o small_a guiltiness_n upon_o other_o reform_a church_n who_o use_v not_o private_a baptism_n and_o communion_n at_o all_o but_o abstain_v from_o they_o as_o dangerous_a we_o answer_v that_o we_o have_v in_o all_o modesty_n propon_v our_o own_o judgement_n concern_v private_a baptism_n and_o private_a communion_n neminem_fw-la judicantes_fw-la as_o cyprian_n say_v of_o old_a in_o consilio_fw-la carthag_n in_o praefat_fw-la nor_o take_v upon_o we_o to_o censure_v or_o condemn_v the_o practice_n either_o of_o this_o church_n in_o time_n precede_v pearth_n assembly_n or_o of_o other_o reform_a church_n we_o can_v not_o indeed_o deny_v but_o we_o dissent_v from_o they_o and_o if_o this_o be_v a_o condemn_v of_o they_o we_o may_v no_o less_o just_o say_v to_o you_o that_o you_o condemn_v the_o practice_n and_o doctrine_n not_o only_o of_o our_o reformer_n in_o the_o particular_n mention_v before_o in_o this_o same_o duplye_n but_o also_o of_o dyverse_a reform_a church_n and_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n as_o we_o declare_v in_o our_o six_o demand_n and_o shall_v again_o speak_v of_o it_o in_o our_o six_o duplye_n a_o defence_n of_o our_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n concern_v the_o celebration_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o private_a place_n 56._o you_o desire_v we_o wyselie_o to_o consider_v whether_o the_o desire_n which_o our_o people_n have_v of_o baptism_n and_o communion_n in_o time_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o occasion_v by_o prevayl_v of_o popery_n and_o through_o a_o superstitious_a conceit_n that_o people_n have_v of_o these_o sacrament_n as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n we_o be_v loath_a to_o come_v short_a of_o you_o in_o duty_n of_o charity_n especial_o in_o good_a wish_n and_o therefore_o we_o likewise_o wish_v you_o wyselie_o to_o consider_v whether_o the_o neglect_n of_o these_o sacrament_n in_o the_o time_n of_o sickness_n which_o be_v in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o kingdom_n proceed_v not_o from_o some_o want_n of_o a_o sufficient_a knowledge_n and_o due_a esteem_n of_o the_o fruit_n of_o these_o high_a and_o heavenly_a mystery_n 57_o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o acknowledge_v that_o we_o minister_v these_o sacrament_n in_o private_a as_o necessary_a only_o by_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n but_o with_o all_o you_o conceive_v that_o our_o people_n imagine_v or_o seem_v to_o imagine_v they_o to_o be_v so_o necessary_a mean_n as_o that_o god_n have_v tie_v his_o grace_n to_o they_o we_o desire_v you_o to_o judge_v charitable_o of_o those_o who_o be_v unknown_a to_o you_o and_o with_o all_o we_o declare_v that_o neither_o we_o do_v teach_v our_o people_n nor_o do_v they_o think_v for_o aught_o we_o do_v ever_o know_v that_o baptism_n be_v so_o necessary_a a_o mean_a unto_o salvation_n that_o without_o it_o god_n can_v not_o or_o will_v not_o save_v any_o yea_o on_o the_o contrary_a we_o be_v confident_a that_o when_o baptism_n be_v earnest_o seek_v for_o or_o unfeygnedlie_o desire_v and_o yet_o can_v not_o be_v have_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o parent_n 32._o and_o of_o the_o church_n be_v accept_v by_o god_n in_o stead_n of_o the_o ordinary_a mean_a the_o use_n whereof_o be_v hinder_v by_o unavoidable_a necessity_n and_o so_o in_o this_o we_o depart_v from_o the_o rigid_a tenet_n of_o papist_n on_o the_o other_o part_n we_o likewise_o teach_v and_o accord_o our_o people_n learn_v that_o baptism_n be_v the_o ordinary_a mean_a of_o our_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n and_o of_o our_o regeneration_n to_o the_o use_n whereof_o god_n by_o his_o commandment_n have_v tie_v us._n 58._o if_o the_o commandment_n of_o our_o saviour_n matth_n 28.19_o go_v you_o therefore_a and_o teach_v all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n and_o of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n tie_v not_o parent_n to_o seek_v baptism_n to_o their_o child_n and_o pastor_n to_o administer_v when_o it_o be_v seek_v then_o have_v we_o no_o commandment_n at_o all_o for_o baptise_v of_o infant_n which_o be_v a_o anabaptisticall_a absurdity_n but_o if_o parent_n and_o pastor_n be_v tie_v by_o this_o commandment_n than_o parent_n ought_v to_o seek_v baptism_n to_o their_o die_a child_n not_o baptize_v before_o for_o then_o or_o never_o and_o pastor_n must_v accord_o perform_v that_o duty_n then_o which_o be_v incumbent_n upon_o they_o this_o be_v that_o which_o king_n james_n of_o bless_a memory_n in_o a_o conference_n at_o hampton-court_n pag._n 17_o report_v himself_o to_o have_v answer_v to_o a_o scotish_n minister_n while_o he_o be_v in_o scotland_n the_o minister_n ask_v if_o he_o think_v baptism_n so_o necessary_a that_o if_o it_o be_v omit_v the_o child_n shall_v be_v damn_v no_o say_v the_o king_n but_o if_o you_o be_v call_v to_o baptize_v the_o child_n though_o private_o shall_v refuse_v to_o come_v i_o think_v