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A86484 A rejoynder to Master Samuel Eaton and Master Timothy Taylor's reply. Or, an answer to their late book called A defence of sundry positions and scriptures, &c. With some occasionall animadversions on the book called the Congregational way justified. For the satisfaction of all that seek the truth in love, especially for his dearly beloved and longed for, the inhabitants in and neer to Manchester in Lancashire. / Made and published by Richard Hollinworth. Mancuniens. Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656. 1647 (1647) Wing H2496; Thomason E391_1; ESTC R201545 213,867 259

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contain_v in_o it_o be_v give_v as_o the_o woman_n duty_n c._n 2.9_o 10._o the_o wife_n duty_n c._n 3.11_o the_o widow_n duty_n c._n 5.4.9_o the_o servant_n lesson_n c._n 6.1_o 2._o though_o these_o thing_n he_o may_v give_v in_o charge_n to_o they_o they_o concern_v yet_o he_o can_v not_o keep_v they_o in_o person_n as_o you_o even_o now_o paraphrase_a on_o keep_v nor_o can_v it_o be_v conceive_v that_o such_o thing_n shall_v be_v impose_v on_o timothy_n with_o such_o a_o deep_a obtestation_n either_o as_o the_o only_a or_o as_o a_o principal_a or_o as_o a_o representative_a subject_n of_o they_o 4._o the_o word_n this_o commandment_n may_v i_o think_v be_v enough_o to_o have_v keep_v you_o in_o from_o such_o a_o wide_a acception_n can_v so_o many_o thing_n as_o be_v pack_v up_o in_o this_o epistle_n so_o miscellaneous_a in_o nature_n so_o manifold_a in_o form_n of_o speech_n command_n prohibition_n declaration_n assertion_n admonition_n exhortation_n instruction_n consolation_n all_o 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