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A47399 [The ax laid to the root, or, One blow more at the foundation of infant baptism and church-membership containing an exposition of that metaphorical text of Holy Scripture, Mat. 3, 10]. Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1693 (1693) Wing K48_pt2; ESTC R20690 57,342 56

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the Remission of ●ins and bringing forth Fruits worthy of amendment of Life see our la●●●●notators on the place They tell you in that lay their great Sin and th●●● not submitting to Baptism as a Testimony of such a Repentance 〈◊〉 say they the Baptism of Iohn in Scripture signifieth his whole Administration or the Doctrine he Preached as well as the Ordinance of 〈◊〉 by him Administred and so must be interpreted where our Saviour ask'd the Pharisees whether the Baptism of John was from Heaven or of Men and they durst not say from Heaven lest Christ should have ask'd them why then do ye believe him not they were not baptized of him is the same thing with they would be none of his Disciples they did then like as some ungodly Persons do now reject the Counsel of God against themselves in not partaking of the Ordinance of the Lord's Supper yet their bare rejection of that is not so much their Sin and Guilt as their not believing repenting or imbracing of Jesus Christ or obtaining those previous and antecedent Qualifications required of all such who ought to come to that Sacred Ordinance Obj. It is said the People ask'd him What shall we do and whether were it some for all or every individual who can tell And if the Adult did speak and the Children could not were not the Parents to take care that they might have the means to flye from Wrath to come as well as themselves and to be taught to take God's Way as well as themselves it being after Baptism and was there any question to be made but they would take Care about this if they were truly awakened And especially when the Children's Names were as expresly in John's Commession as the Parents And if they did not take Care about them was it not their Sin and their grievous Sin too against the express declared Will of God concerning them Luke 1.17 Mal. 4.6 If he that provideth not for the Bodies of his Children hath denyed the Faith and is worse than an Infidel wh●● notorious Monsters had these People been if when they were awakened to see the Wrath of God in the fire of Hell coming in upon them should not take Care th●● it might be prevented from their Children as well as from themselves pag. 50. Answ. Such Blindness is enough to afflict the Soul of any enlightned Person 't is evident this Man concludes the External Rite of Baptism o● a bare Subjection to that Ordinance was the very means to escape the Wrath of God and eternal Burning in Hell and not only for Infants but the Adult likewise whereas I find no sound and understanding Protestant of his Judgment nor doth he produce either Scripture or solid Reason for what he asserts could he prove that to baptize Childre● or the Adult would save their Souls from God's Wrath or Hell-fire ce●●tainly all would be notorious Monsters that would not endeavour to pe●●swade all Heathens Turks and Pagans in the World to be baptized or n●● take care to baptize their Infants but alas we know that for 〈◊〉 Person to be baptized who is not regenerated it will avail him nothing 〈◊〉 no more than Simon Magus his Baptism did him 'T is not Circumcision av●●●ed nor Uncircumcision but a new Creature Answ. 2. But before he had gone so far as to assert the great Profit of I●●fant-Baptism and the dreadful Danger and Sin of Parents in not baptiz●● them he should have proved that God doth Enjoin or command 〈◊〉 thing of Parents viz. to see their Children baptized for where there 〈◊〉 Law there is no Trransgression Another Man may argue that the Ordidinance of the Sacred Supper of our Lord is a means or way for our Children to escape the Wrath of God and so charge Parents to bring them to that Sacrament as well as to that of Baptism Sir The Fault and Sin of Parents lies not where you place it but in that when they are grown up they neglect to teach them their Duty of looking out for a changed Heart or to get Faith and Repentance or to obtain an Interest in Jesus Christ for there is no other way to escape the Wrath of God for our selves nor our Children when grown up but by Christ alone as he is received through Faith and whosoever do not so take Care of their Childrens Souls are greatly guilty before God but to baptize them since there is no Warrant for it no Command from God no President or Example in all the Sacred Scripture that would but bring great Guilt upon their own Heads add thou not to his words lest he prove thee and thou art found a Liar Answ. 3. You abuse that Holy Text Mal. 4.6 Luke 1.17 Iohn had no Infants in his Commission tho' he was to turn the Hearts of the Fathers to the Children and the Hearts of the Children to the Fathers yet Children there doth not mean Infants for it must be such Children whose Hearts were turned from their Parents and who were capable to hear and and understand Iohn's Doctrine and so to be convinced of their Evil in having their Hearts set against their Parents the meaning is that Iohn was to Preach both to Young and Old who were arrived to Understanding and to turn them to the Lord and one to another Obj. If their Confession was a Confession of true Penitents then this Repentance was wrought in them before the Holy Ghost was poured upon them or before they were baptized with the Holy Ghost by Christ and how could that be pag. 51. Answ. 1. Doth this Man think that there was no true Conversion wrought by the Preaching of Iohn Baptist nor by Christ himself or his Apostles until the extraordinary Gifts of the Spirit were given which was not till after the Resurrection and Assension of our Blessed Saviour he that will heed such a Writer let him for by this Argument the Holy Apostles were not true Penitents until they were baptised with the Holy Ghost and yet did not Christ tell them they were clean tho' not all Ioh. 13.10 and that they who then believed in him had Everlasting Life Ioh. 5. According to this Man's Notion Christ had no Disciples indeed or no true Penitent and sincere Disciples until after his Ascension Answ. 2. 'T is evident that the Baptism of the Holy Ghost did not re●ferr to the saving Graces of the Spirit which are in all Believers but to those visible miraculous and extraordinary Gifts of the Holy Ghost which were only given to some Persons in the Primative Time to confirm the Gospel and to discover the Glory of Jesus Christ upon his Ascension into Heaven The Baptism of the Spirit signifies that great Effusion of the Holy Ghost like that at Pentecost Act. 21.2 3. Casaubon speaking of that Text Act. 1.45 Ye shall be baptized wit●●● Holy Spirit c shews that the Greek Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is to dip or pl●●● as it were to die Colours in which Sence saith he the Apostles ●●● be truly said to have been baptized for the House in which this ●●● done was filled with the Holy Ghost so that the Apostles might ●●● to have been plunged into it as in a large Fish-Pond all were not ●●● the Apostles days baptized with the Holy Spirit let this Author shew ●●● he can that the Word Baptizo signifies to sprinkle with the Spirit or pro●●● that the weakest Christian in Grace can be said to be baptized with th●●● Holy Spirit Ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days henc● c. is not applicable to every particular Believer but to the Apostles t● whom principally our Saviour spoke those Words and to some others ●●● whom those extraordinary Gifts should be given afterward Obj. But this would argue that then those that John baptized were ●●● Penitents which is contrary to Christ's own Words Mat. 11 2.7.1● to 25. Answ. There appears in those Texts he cites no such thing that he affirm● but he takes a Liberty to say any thing so far as I can see no doubt ●●● Iohn took great Care to baptize only such who were True Penitents sin●● he required so severely Fruits meet for Repentance of such that came to ●●● Baptism tho' no doubt he might be mistaken in some of them as P●●● was in Simon Act. 8. tho' he sent some of his Disciples to Jesus to be f●●●ther Confirmed in the certain Belief that he was the true Messias that ●●● to come Nor doth Christ's Words imply as this Man signifies in p. 53. that Ioh●● Disciples had bad ends in going out into the Wilderness to see and he●● him tho' some of the Multitude might probably go out of Curiosity ●● for other ends c. How Mr. Exell or any other Man can rationally deny a Confession ●●● necessary or doubt whether such a Confession was required before Baptism viz. of that Faith and Repentance they then had I see not for he ●●●poseth that Iohn baptized them tho' ungodly and without Faith or the ●●● thereof appearing telling them they should afterwards believe in ●●● that was to come whereas 't is evident he required Faith and Repentance immediately of them as antecedent to Baptism but I shall proceed no further O! when shall this Controversie cease doubtless none have just Cause ●● blame us to defend that which we believe to be a precious Truth of Chri●● when so many still appear to deny it and write against it The Lo●● open their Eyes and send Love and Union amongst all t●● Lord's People Amen FINIS * I am forced to repeat this Answer again also you have is at large in Rector Rectified in Answer to Mr. Burket Pag. 108 109 110.