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A26911 The defence of the nonconformists plea for peace, or, An account of the matter of their nonconformity against Mr. J. Cheney's answer called The conforming nonconformist, and The nonconforming conformist : to which is added the second part in answer to Mr. Cheney's Five undertakings / by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1680 (1680) Wing B1238; ESTC R10601 97,954 194

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