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A47147 A further discovery of the spirit of falshood & persecution in Sam. Jennings, and his party that joyned with him in Pensilvania, and some abettors that cloak and defend him here in England in answer to his scandalous book, called, The state of the case. Keith, George, 1639?-1716. 1694 (1694) Wing K170; ESTC R784 61,330 54

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case he continueth of that persecuting Spirit that if any reprove his Pride or other his insolent infirmities he will punish them for their so doing under the Notion of reviling Magistracy if he happen to be re-installed But such as shall happen to re-install him will do 〈◊〉 to advise him to more moderation or put some Curb upon him But at this rate many Friends and particularly G. F. is guilty of reviling Magistracy who more sharply and severely reproved Pride and Injustice in some Justices of Peace here in England than ever we did his Pride in Pensilvania And if G F. had been living in the body and been then in Pensyvania and had but done the like to S. J. 〈◊〉 must have expected he would have used him as he had done us to reduce him to better behaviour See G. F. his Letter to Justice Sawrey charging him with Persecution Pride Hypocrisie p. 94. of his Journal and his 〈◊〉 Letter to the Magistrates of Derby charging them with Oppression Injustice and Covetousness p. 51. But that he saith our Friends John Macomb and Ralph Ward did rail and snarl intolerably at them as they were going 〈◊〉 the Court to Dinner seeing he tells not what that intolerable railing was nor gives any proof of it may be rejected with many other his falshoods invented by him to cover his evil practices His instance is not the least shadow of proof that they said they thanked God they could not take their Lives away but they coveted their Goods Have not our Friends here in England said as much to Justices here who have fined them and streined their Goods as they did to some of us in Pensylvania and in particular to W. Bradford who being fined six shillings for refusing to be a Jury-man it being a matter of conscience to him to promise in the Presence of God he judging it of the Nature of an Oath had Writing-Paper worth 9 s. taken from him which was carried to Sam. Jennings his Shop to be sold which VV. B. told me Pray let the Reader judge if this was not Covetousness and Oppression both LXII p. 45. His perversion in using that fallacious distinction given by all Persecutors even the worst sort Papists as well as others viz. That they did not persecute us but prosecuted us by Law for our abuses to the Government His great defence is then that we have egregiously transgress'd the Law and did endeavour to raise Sedition and subvert the Government And for proof of this he prints at large that scandalous Proclamation given forth by him and others against me which I have fully answered in Print and so need not answer it again here at Philadelphia 25th 6th mo 1692. and the Presentments of the Grand Jury against us But if to indict and accuse be sufficient proof without any other evidence who but shall be guilty tho the most innocent However here we have him acknowledging matter of fact which will be of some service to many that would not believe that ever there was any such thing done to us in Pensyvania as fining and imprisonment for things that we have always declared to be to us matters of conscience LXIII But to cloak his Persecution he giveth us a wrong Description of it and I believe the general●ty of the people called Quakers will say so Persecution saith he is a suffering inflicted upon the sufferers for the discharge of their duty to God This I say according to the People called Quakers and all others that are f●r due liberty of conscience is a wrong description of persecution as being far too Narrow as not including such suffering as is inflicted upon men that may be in error and hold erronious Doctrines and Principles it having been all 〈◊〉 our Plea witness what VV. Penn and divers ot●ers h●ve printed at great length concerning the due bounds of 〈◊〉 of conscience that seeing we live peaceably under the Government without doing Injury to any Man we ought not to suffer even though we be in an Error whether our Error relate to matters of Faith or Practise But according to this Popish definition of Persecution given by S. J. Men ought to suffer for their Errors and be whipt out of them for to be in Error or to practise an erronious Worship is no discharge of Mens Duty to God and therefore if they be punished for their Errors in Principles or Practises they are not persecuted but prosecuted according to Law And by this his Popish definition of Persecution it will be a great question with many whether any Man called a Quaker ever suffered any Persecution either in old England or new until that be out of question that the People called Quakers held no Errors But according to the true description of Persecution as given by W. Penn and many others the People called Quakers were persecuted by Suffering Fining and Imprisonment for not conforming to the Worship established by Law supposing they were in an Error for they who are rightly principled against Persecution and for due liberty of Conscience say Men are not to be whipt out of their Errors but perswaded and better informed and if they reject due Information they are to be left to God the only Lord and Sovereign over Conscience The true definition therefore of Persecution is a suffering inflicted upon the Sufferers not only for the discharge of their Duty to God but for all that a Man thinks to be his Duty to God Suppose he is in an Error if his Error be no Injury to his Neighbor or a breach of that commonly called the second Table of the Decalogue And by this true definition of Persecution it is out of question that the People called Quakers as well as others of other Nonconformists did suffer great Persecution even suppose they did hold Errors and suffered for them and acted contrary to some Laws which are now abolished and repealed LXIV In his labouring to clear himself and his Party of Persecution and to make the World believe it was not Persecution but a Prosecution in his definition of Prosecution which he would make applicable to us he falsly accuseth us but giveth no effectual Proof Prosecution saith he is a justice done on Transgressors of the Law for their Injuries done to Men or their Blasphemies to God and then he concludes that we were prosecuted by Law for our Abuses to the Government But all that that ever was duly proved in particular against us was That Tho. Budd and I in a printed Paper in our just defence reprove Sam. Jennings's Pride saying of him he was too high and imperious in Friends Meetings and worldly Courts calling him an ignorant presumptuous and insolent Man which last words did not relate to his Magistracy as I have formerly declared but to his religious Profession as a Quaker And that we queried in our printed Appeal Whether hiring Men to fight and giving them a Commission to fight be not a manifest Transgression