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A34949 To the Right Honourable and Honourable the Lords Commissioners of His Majesties treasury Sir William Creagh ... Creagh, William, Sir. 1687 (1687) Wing C6866; ESTC R7705 12,418 32

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servir qu'il appartiendra fait passé à Rouen le 5. Janvier 1685. Pierre Locquet Jean Boucher Rob. Nouflard Eustache le Canu Jacques De Lamare Thomas Fulgent Loüis Bouffier Jean le Testu Anthoine Mallet Notaires Royea●●● Gruchett le Peletier C Mr. GEORGE ROBINSON's Answer To the foregoing Present State The Commissioners of His Majesties Customs may please to take notice THAT Whereas it hath been suggested a sort of Coal was lately found in Scotland not much inferiour to the Coal of England and from thence Exported to France in French Vessels paying little or no Custom for the same and whereas it was also alledged by Letters from France and Holland c. That the Forein Markets were of late years extraordinarily supplyed with Coals from Scotland in Strangers Ships to the great prejudiee of the English Navigation and damage to His Majesties Customs here upon which allegations some of the Traders His Majesties Subjects of England in that Commodity humbly desired by proper application a seasonable remedy for such an Evil either by an equality of Duty to be paid by Strangers in Scotland or by some encouragement or favour to rhe English in the Duty here which suggestions and seeming good reasons made not only deep impressions but great inclinations to endeavour a present Abatement of the Custom on Coals Exported from England in English Shipping for a short temporary experiment till the Duty in Scotland could be raised higher if the King should so please Now having since farther well examined the Premises there seemeth nothing more certain therein than I. That the Custom in Scotland is indeed next to nothing and the defect such as it is there II. That there are no better Coals in Scotland now than in former and later years in which the Duties in both Kingdoms have been as now they are and yet the Exportation from England far greater than that of the last year from whence it seemeth evident that the greater or lesser Annual Exportation of this Commodity hath not been occasioned by any extraordinary Coal found in Scotland or the difference of the Custom but Peace War Plague c doth influence the same And some years the Forein Markets as well as London Markets are over stocked with this Commodity the Custom of Anno 1679. was better than 1678. about 5000 l. the year following was worse than that by about 2000 l. 1681. was near as good as 1679. 1682. was somewhat better than 1680. 1683. was about 1500 l. better than 1682. and Anno 1684. is not so bad as 1678. by near 2000 l. neither were the years before 1678. though not altogether so good as since less subject to variation and yet the Coals of Scotland and the Duties of both Kingdoms the same as now for any thing yet proved to the contrary III. That the advices from Holland of the encrease of this Scotch Trade now want Confirmation and the abatement from 8 to 6 s. per Chalder is chiefly projected by the Factors or Traders of France and that for accompt of the gross Farmers of the Customs of that Kingdom who as Strangers ought by the Book of Rates here to pay 14 s. per Chalder for Coals Exported in English Shipping so that instead of 2 s. this project will abate them 8 s. per Chalder IV. That by that sensible Letter to Sir John Buckworth of the ½ 2 2 Instant from Rouen touching this matter it seemeth apparent That if the French could be without our English Coal or the Scotch Coal were so good as is alledged and could be brought from Scotland in French Ships within 2 s. per Chalder as cheap as English Coal the French would not be so kind to our Navigation as to employ them in this Trade to the neglect of their own Shipping or on the other hand in the same Letter it would rationally be proposed that if French Ships may be permitted to fetch out Coal at English Custom they will be willing to pay the French Tonnage of 5 s. which will amount to 18 s. per Chalder a Newcastle Chalder being more than two Ton Now if the Market at Rouen will afford to pay that 18 s. per Chalder and produce good profit to the Merchant as the said Letter sets forth it seemeth not necessary to abate the Custom and to let them have a Commodity from us which they cannot be without for the reasons aforesaid at 6 s. per Chalder V. If it be said in favour of all Forein Markets as well as France that the cheapness of a Commodity supposeth an encrease of Consumption it will also be remembred that the supposition will utterly fail in Commodities not subject to Luxury If Salt were at a penny a Bushel it would not for its cheapness augment the Consumption And if all the English Custom on Coals were taken off it would not amount to above 1 d. ½ a Bushel in the price of Coals cannot make 6 d. difference in 5 l. worth of Manufacture and the dearer we sell a Commodity abroad which the Stranger cannot be without as aforesaid the more we bring back to inrich our own Nation VI. And as to the English Navigation the same will appear to be very little advantaged by the desired abatement to 6 s. per Chalder when it shall be computed that the whole Forein Coal-Trade is not ⅕ part of the Annual quantity brought only into London of which the bare Duties first and last amount to 6 s. 6 d. per Chalder and if the said abatement should take effect the French should not pay so much Duty as we The Parent is not kinder to Strangers than to his own Children VII Therefore it is conceived that if any advantage can accrue by the desired abatement it will be to the Coal Owner who knowing the necessity the French have of the Commodity will at least share by the raising the Price of the Coal in the profit of what the King shall please to abate of the Customs so prudently Established by his Laws VIII And for these Reasons and much more which might be said on this subject as I humbly conceive the said abatement not to be for His Majesties service or the benefit of the English Navigation so I find all my Partners with whom I am in Covenant now unwilling to joyn with me in any consent thereunto for what relates to the Lord Townsends Interest in the premises All which is humbly submitted Dated the 20th of Decemb. 1684. George Robinson D A Reply to Mr. George Robinsons groundless Answer to the Present State of the Forein Coal-Trade I. THat the Custom in Scotland is next to nothing as by the said Present State is set forth is owned by the Answerer so needs no further proof nor enlargement II. To say there are no better Coals now in Scotland than in former years is not denyed though a cunning insinuation But the best and richest Coal both in Englond and Scotland being the most fit for