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A69533 Five disputations of church-government and worship by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing B1267; ESTC R13446 437,983 583

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doubt_n prop._n 2._o it_o be_v as_o certain_a that_o common_a prudence_n require_v they_o to_o make_v a_o convenient_a distribution_n of_o the_o work_n and_o not_o go_v all_o one_o way_n and_o leave_v other_o place_n that_o while_o without_o the_o gospel_n but_o some_o to_o go_v one_o way_n and_o some_o another_o as_o most_o conduce_v to_o the_o conversion_n of_o all_o the_o world_n prop._n 3._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o arm_v with_o the_o sword_n nor_o have_v a_o compulsive_a coercive_a power_n by_o secular_a force_n but_o that_o their_o government_n be_v only_o forcible_a on_o the_o conscience_n and_o therefore_o only_o on_o the_o conscientious_a so_o far_o as_o they_o be_v such_o unless_o as_o we_o may_v call_v man_n actual_a exclusion_n by_o the_o church_n and_o their_o desertion_n and_o misery_n the_o effect_n of_o government_n prop._n 4._o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o they_o who_o have_v the_o extraordinary_a privilege_n of_o be_v eye-witness_n of_o christ_n miracle_n and_o life_n and_o ear-witness_n of_o his_o doctrine_n and_o have_v the_o extraordinary_a power_n of_o work_a miracle_n for_o a_o confirmation_n of_o their_o doctrine_n must_v needs_o have_v great_a also_o authority_n in_o man_n conscience_n then_o other_o man_n upon_o that_o very_a account_n if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o so_o that_o even_o their_o gift_n and_o privilege_n may_v be_v and_o doubtless_o be_v one_o ground_n at_o least_o of_o that_o high_a degree_n of_o authority_n which_o they_o have_v above_o other_o for_o in_o such_o a_o rational_a persuasive_a authority_n which_o work_v only_o on_o the_o conscience_n the_o case_n be_v much_o different_a from_o the_o secular_a power_n of_o magistrate_n for_o in_o the_o former_a even_a gift_n may_v be_v a_o ground_n of_o a_o great_a measure_n of_o power_n in_o bind_v man_n mind_n and_o here_o be_v the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o difficulty_n that_o rise_v in_o our_o way_n to_o hinder_v we_o from_o improve_n the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o it_o be_v so_o hard_a to_o discern_v how_o much_o of_o their_o power_n over_o other_o presbyter_n or_o bishop_n be_v from_o their_o supereminency_n of_o office_n and_o imperial_a authority_n and_o how_o much_o be_v mere_o from_o the_o excellency_n of_o their_o gift_n and_o privilege_n prop._n 5._o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o magistrate_n do_v not_o then_o second_v the_o apostle_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n but_o rather_o hinder_v they_o by_o persecution_n the_o excommunicate_a be_v not_o punish_v therefore_o by_o the_o secular_a power_n but_o rather_o man_n be_v entice_v to_o forsake_v the_o church_n for_o the_o save_n of_o their_o life_n so_o that_o worldly_a prosperity_n attend_v those_o without_o and_o adversity_n those_o within_o which_o further_o show_v that_o the_o force_n of_o apostolical_a government_n be_v on_o the_o conscience_n and_o it_o be_v not_o corrupt_v by_o a_o alien_n kind_n of_o force_n prop._n 6._o yet_o have_v the_o apostle_n a_o power_n of_o miraculous_a castigation_n of_o the_o very_a body_n of_o the_o offender_n at_o least_o sometime_o which_o peter_n exercise_v upon_o anania●_n and_o sapphyra_n and_o paul_n upon_o e●●mas_n and_o some_o think_v upon_o hymenaeus_n and_o philetas_n and_o those_o other_o that_o be_v say_v to_o be_v deliver_v up_o to_o satan_n certain_o paul_n have_v in_o readiness_n to_o revenge_v all_o disobedience_n 2_o cor._n 10.6_o which_o its_o like_a extend_v somewhat_o far_o than_o to_o mere_a censure_n but_o it_o be_v most_o certain_a that_o the_o apostle_n use_v no●_n this_o power_n o●_n hurt_v man_n body_n ordinary_o but_o spare_o as_o they_o do_v other_o miracle_n perhaps_o not_o according_a to_o their_o own_o will_n but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o that_o this_o do_v not_o corrupt_v their_o government_n neither_o and_o destroy_v the_o spirituality_n of_o it_o yet_o this_o make_v it_o somewhat_o more_o difficult_a to_o we_o to_o improve_v the_o apostle_n example_n because_o we_o know_v not_o how_o much_o of_o their_o power_n upon_o man_n conscience_n may_v be_v from_o such_o penal_a miracle_n prop._n 7._o the_o apostle_n have_v power_n to_o ordain_v and_o send_v other_o to_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n but_o this_o only_a by_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o ordain_v and_o of_o the_o people_n before_o they_o can_v be_v complete_a fix_a pastor_n for_o they_o force_v not_o any_o to_o go_v or_o any_o people_n to_o entertain_v they_o and_o it_o seem_v they_o do_v not_o ordain_v single_o but_o many_o together_o act_v 14.23_o think_v timothy_n have_v his_o gift_n by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o paul_n hand_n and_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n 1_o tim._n 4.14_o and_o 2_o tim._n 1.6_o prop._n 8._o it_o seem_v that_o each_o apostle_n do_v exercise_v a_o government_n over_o the_o church_n which_o be_v once_o plant_v but_o this_o be_v principal_o in_o order_n to_o well_o settle_v and_o confirm_v they_o prop._n 9_o no_o one_o apostle_n do_v appropriate_v a_o diocese_n to_o himself_o and_o say_v here_o i_o be_o sole_a governor_n or_o be_o chief_a governor_n nor_o do_v they_o or_o can_v they_o forbid_v any_o other_o to_o govern_v in_o their_o diocese_n though_o as_o be_v say_v they_o do_v agree_v to_o distribute_v their_o work_n to_o the_o public_a advantage_n and_o not_o to_o be_v all_o in_o one_o place_n at_o once_o but_o yet_o successive_o they_o may_v prop._n 10._o nay_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v the_o sole_a bishop_n of_o such_o or_o such_o a_o diocese_n that_o they_o have_v usual_o some_o more_o unfixed_a general_a officer_n with_o they_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n go_v together_o at_o first_o and_o after_o the_o division_n barnabas_n and_o mark_n paul_n and_o silas_n and_o sometime_o timothy_n and_o sometime_o epaphroditus_n and_o sometime_o other_o go_v together_o afterward_o and_o other_o as_o well_o as_o james_n be_v usual_o at_o jerusalem_n and_o all_o these_o have_v a_o general_a power_n where_o they_o come_v and_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o james_n be_v ruler_n of_o peter_n paul_n and_o the_o rest_n when_o they_o be_v at_o jerusalem_n nor_o that_o he_o have_v any_o high_a power_n than_o they_o prop._n 11._o yet_o it_o seem_v that_o the_o several_a apostle_n do_v most_o look_v after_o those_o same_o church_n which_o themselves_o have_v be_v the_o instrument_n of_o gather_v and_o that_o some_o addition_n of_o respect_n be_v due_a to_o those_o that_o have_v be_v spiritual_a father_n to_o they_o above_o the_o rest_n 1_o cor._n 4.15_o prop._n 12._o it_o be_v therefore_o by_o the_o general_n commission_n of_o apostleship_n that_o they_o govern_v particular_a church_n pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la while_n they_o be_v among_o or_o near_o they_o and_o not_o by_o any_o special_a commission_n or_o office_n of_o be_v the_o diocesan_n or_o metropolitan_a of_o this_o or_o that_o place_n 1._o it_o be_v below_o they_o and_o a_o diminution_n of_o their_o honour_n to_o be_v so_o affix_v and_o take_v the_o charge_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n 2._o we_o find_v not_o that_o ever_o they_o do_v it_o 3._o if_o they_o have_v than_o all_o the_o disorder_n and_o ungovernedness_n of_o those_o church_n will_v be_v imputable_a to_o they_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v be_v still_o with_o they_o as_o fix_v bishop_n be_v see_v they_o can_v govern_v they_o at_o such_o a_o distance_n as_o make●_n they_o uncapable_a 4._o when_o peter_n draw_v barnabas_n and_o many_o more_o to_o dissimulation_n and_o almost_o to_o betray_v the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gentile_n paul_n do_v not_o say_v this_o be_v my_o diocese_n and_o i_o must_v be_v the_o ruler_n here_o nor_o do_v peter_n plead_v this_o against_o he_o when_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n fall_v out_o whether_o mark_n shall_v be_v take_v with_o they_o or_o not_o neither_o of_o they_o do_v plead_v a_o rule_v authority_n nor_o say_v this_o be_v my_o diocese_n or_o i_o be_o the_o superior_a ruler_n but_o they_o produce_v their_o reason_n and_o when_o they_o can_v not_o agree_v concern_v the_o validity_n of_o each_o other_o reason_n they_o separate_v and_o take_v their_o several_a companion_n and_o way_n prop_n 13._o it_o be_v not_o only_o the_o apostle_n but_o multitude_n more_o that_o be_v such_o general_a unfixed_a minister_n as_o the_o seventy_o barnabas_n silas_n epaphroditus_n timothy_n and_o many_o other_o and_o all_o these_o also_o have_v a_o power_n of_o preach_v and_o rule_v where_o they_o come_v prop._n 14._o none_o of_o these_o general_a officer_n do_v take_v away_o the_o government_n from_o the_o fix_a presbyter_n of_o particular_a church_n nor_o keep_v a_o negative_a vote_n in_o their_o own_o hand_n in_o matter_n of_o government_n for_o if_o no_o fix_a bishop_n or_o presbyter_n can_v excommunicate_v any_o member_n of_o his_o church_n without_o a_o apostle_n than_o almost_o all_o
church_n must_v remain_v pollute_v and_o ungoverned_a through_o the_o unavoidable_a absence_n of_o those_o twelve_o or_o thirteen_o man_n the_o apostle_n therefore_o do_v admonish_v pastor_n to_o do_v their_o duty_n and_o when_o themselves_o be_v present_v have_v power_n to_o do_v the_o like_a and_o to_o censure_v pastor_n or_o people_n that_o offend_v but_o they_o do_v not_o take_v on_o they_o the_o full_a government_n of_o any_o church_n nor_o keep_v a_o negative_a vote_n in_o the_o government_n prop._n 15._o it_o seem_v utter_o untrue_a that_o christ_n do_v deliver_v the_o key_n only_o to_o the_o twelve_o apostle_n as_o such_o and_o so_o only_o to_o their_o successor_n and_o not_o the_o seventy_o disciple_n or_o any_o presbyter_n for_o 1._o the_o seventy_o also_o be_v general_n unfixed_a officer_n and_o not_o like_o fix_a presbyter_n or_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o have_v a_o large_a commission_n must_v have_v equal_a power_n 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o single_a bishop_n as_o now_o they_o be_v difference_v from_o other_o but_o they_o be_v such_o as_o have_v more_o extensive_a commission_n than_o those_o now_o call_v arch_a bishop_n or_o patriarch_n if_o therefore_o the_o key_n be_v give_v they_o as_o apostle_n or_o general_a officer_n than_o they_o be_v never_o give_v to_o bishop_n for_o bishop_n as_o fix_a bishop_n of_o this_o or_o that_o diocese_n be_v not_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v general_n unfixed_a officer_n 3._o it_o be_v grant_v common_o by_o papist_n and_o protestant_n that_o presbyter_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n though_o many_o of_o they_o think_v that_o they_o be_v limit_v to_o exercise_v they_o under_o the_o bishop_n and_o by_o their_o direction_n and_o consent_n of_o which_o many_o schoolman_n have_v write_v at_o large_a 4._o the_o key_n of_o excommunication_n be_v but_o a_o ministerial_a authoritative_a declaration_n that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o know_a offender_n be_v to_o be_v avoid_v and_o to_o charge_v the_o church_n to_o avoid_v communion_n with_o he_o and_o he_o to_o avoid_v or_o keep_v away_o from_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o church_n and_o this_o a_o mere_a presbyter_n may_v do_v he_o may_v authoritative_o declare_v such_o a_o man_n to_o be_v one_o that_o be_v to_o be_v avoid_v and_o charge_v the_o church_n and_o he_o to_o do_v according_o the_o like_a i_o may_v say_v of_o absolution_n if_o they_o belong_v to_o every_o authorize_v pastor_n preacher_n and_o church_n guide_v as_o such_o than_o not_o to_o a_o bishop_n only_o but_o to_o a_o presbyter_n also_o and_o that_o these_o key_n belong_v to_o more_o than_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n be_v plain_a in_o that_o these_o be_v insufficient_a naturally_n to_o use_v they_o to_o their_o ends._n a_o apostle_n in_o antioch_n can_v look_v to_o the_o censure_v of_o all_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v censure_v at_o athens_n paris_n london_n etc._n etc._n so_o that_o the_o most_o of_o the_o work_n will_v be_v total_o neglect_v if_o only_o they_o and_o their_o suppose_a successor_n have_v the_o do_v of_o it_o i_o conclude_v therefore_o that_o the_o key_n belong_v not_o only_o to_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n in_o that_o general_n office_n no_o nor_o only_o to_o diocesan_n bishop_n for_o then_o presbyter_n can_v not_o so_o much_o as_o exercise_v they_o with_o the_o bishop_n in_o consistory_n which_o themselves_o of_o late_o allow_v prop._n 16._o the_o apostle_n be_v fallible_a in_o many_o matter_n of_o fact_n and_o consequent_o in_o the_o decision_n that_o depend_v thereupon_o as_o also_o in_o the_o prudential_n determination_n of_o the_o time_n and_o season_n and_o other_o cirumstance_n of_o know_a duty_n and_o thence_o it_o be_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n so_o disagree_v even_o to_o a_o part_n where_o one_o of_o they_o be_v certain_o in_o the_o wrong_n and_o hence_o peter_n withdraw_v from_o the_o uncircumcision_n and_o mislead_v barnabas_n and_o other_o into_o the_o same_o dissimulation_n so_o far_o that_o he_o be_v to_o be_v blame_v and_o withstand_v gal._n 2._o prop._n 17._o in_o such_o case_n of_o mislead_v a_o apostle_n be_v not_o to_o be_v follownd_v no_o more_o be_v any_o church-governor_n now_o but_o it_o be_v lawful_a and_o needful_a to_o dissent_v and_o withstand_v they_o to_o the_o face_n and_o to_o blame_v they_o when_o they_o be_v to_o be_v blame_v for_o the_o church_n safety_n as_o paul_n do_v by_o peter_n galatian_n 2.1_o prop._n 18._o in_o this_o case_n the_o apostle_n that_o by_o office_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n yet_o be_v unequal_a when_o the_o reason_n and_o evidence_n of_o god_n mind_n which_o they_o produce_v be_v unequal_a so_o that_o a_o presbyter_n or_o bishop_n that_o produce_v better_a reason_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v before_o another_o that_o produce_v less_o reason_n or_o that_o err_v and_o the_o bishop_n of_o another_o church_n that_o produce_v better_a evidence_n of_o god_n mind_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v before_o the_o proper_a bishop_n of_o that_o same_o church_n that_o produce_v weak_a and_o worse_a evidence_n yea_o a_o private_a man_n that_o produce_v god_n word_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v before_o bishop_n and_o council_n that_o go_v against_o it_o or_o without_o it_o in_o that_o case_n where_o the_o word_n bind_v we_o so_o that_o in_o all_o case_n where_o scripture_n be_v to_o determine_v he_o that_o bring_v the_o best_a scripture_n proof_n be_v the_o chief_a ruler_n that_o be_v ought_v chief_o to_o prevail_v though_o in_o the_o determination_n of_o mere_a circumstance_n of_o duty_n which_o scripture_n determine_v not_o but_o have_v leave_v to_o church-guide_n to_o determine_v pro_fw-la re_fw-la natâ_fw-la it_o may_v be_v otherwise_o so_o that_o the_o apostle_n power_n in_o determine_v matter_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o as_o church-governor_n but_o as_o man_n that_o can_v produce_v the_o sure_a evidence_n prop._n 19_o it_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o manifest_v whether_o every_o presbyter_n in_o prima_fw-la instantia_fw-la be_v not_o a_o officer_n to_o the_o church_n universal_a before_o he_o be_v affix_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o whether_o he_o may_v not_o go_v up_o and_o down_o over_o the_o world_n to_o exercise_v that_o office_n where_o ever_o he_o have_v admittance_n and_o if_o so_o what_o then_o can_v a_o apostle_n have_v do_v by_o virtue_n of_o his_o mere_a office_n without_o the_o advantage_n of_o his_o extraordinary_a ability_n and_o privilege_n which_o the_o presbyter_n may_v not_o do_v may_v a_o apostle_n charge_v the_o people_n where_o he_o come_v to_o avoid_v this_o or_o that_o seducer_n or_o heretic_n so_o may_v any_o preacher_n that_o shall_v come_v among_o they_o and_o that_o by_o authority_n may_v a_o apostle_n excommunicate_v the_o very_a pastor_n of_o the_o place_n and_o deprive_v he_o why_o what_o be_v that_o but_o to_o persuade_v the_o people_n and_o authoritative_o require_v they_o to_o avoid_v and_o withdraw_v from_o such_o a_o pastor_n if_o the_o cause_n be_v manifest_a and_o 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well_o undertake_v in_o synod_n to_o promote_v unity_n and_o to_o do_v the_o best_a he_o can_v for_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ._n if_o therefore_o those_o of_o the_o congregational_a way_n be_v as_o near_o we_o in_o other_o thing_n as_o in_o this_o before_o insist_v on_o especial_o if_o they_o will_v renounce_v for_o that_o great_a mistake_n of_o the_o people_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n or_o government_n and_o take_v up_o for_o they_o with_o a_o judicium_fw-la discretionis_fw-la and_o just_a liberty_n we_o need_v not_o stand_v at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n and_o last_o if_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n will_v tender_o weigh_v the_o greatness_n of_o their_o work_n and_o charge_n and_o the_o dreadfulness_n of_o their_o account_n the_o worth_n of_o soul_n the_o power_n and_o prevalency_n of_o sin_n the_o rage_n of_o all_o the_o church_n enemy_n and_o the_o multitude_n of_o they_o they_o will_v soon_o tremble_v to_o think_v of_o the_o difficulty_n in_o govern_v or_o guide_v one_o congregation_n in_o the_o way_n to_o heaven_n than_o grasp_n at_o more_o and_o think_v themselves_o able_a to_o be_v the_o guide_v of_o many_o and_o draw_v such_o a_o heavy_a burden_n on_o themselves_o and_o prepare_v for_o such_o a_o reckon_n lest_o they_o be_v offend_v with_o my_o word_n i_o will_v say_v the_o like_a in_o the_o word_n of_o chrysostom_n or_o whoever_o else_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n on_o matth_n 20._o hom._n 35._o pag._n mihi_fw-la 901._o si_fw-la haec_fw-la ergo_fw-la ita_fw-la se_fw-la habent_fw-la secularem_fw-la quidem_fw-la primatum_fw-la desiderare_fw-la et_fw-la si_fw-la ratio_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la vel_fw-la causa_fw-la est_fw-la quia_fw-la etsi_fw-la justum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la vel_fw-la utile_fw-la est_fw-la primatum_fw-la autem_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la concupiscere_fw-la neque_fw-la ratio_fw-la est_fw-la neque_fw-la causa_fw-la quia_fw-la neque_fw-la justum_fw-la est_fw-la neque_fw-la utile_fw-la quis_fw-la enim_fw-la sapiens_fw-la ultro_fw-la se_fw-la subjicere_fw-la festinat_fw-la servituti_fw-la labori_fw-la dolori_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la majus_fw-la est_fw-la periculo_fw-la tali_fw-la ut_fw-la det_fw-la rationem_fw-la pro_fw-la omni_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la apud_fw-la justum_fw-la judicem_fw-la nisi_fw-la forte_fw-fr qui_fw-fr non_fw-fr credit_n judicium_fw-la dei_fw-la nec_fw-la timet_fw-la uti_fw-la abutens_fw-la primatu_fw-la svo_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la seculariter_fw-la convertat_fw-la ●um_fw-la in_o secularem_fw-la sed_fw-la ne_fw-fr forte_fw-fr qui_fw-la talis_fw-la est_fw-la in_o appetendo_fw-la primatum_fw-la profectum_fw-la pietatis_fw-la pie_n praetendat_fw-la dico_fw-la nunquid_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o ordine_fw-la prio_fw-la est_fw-la jam_fw-la &_o meritis_fw-la est_fw-la melior_fw-la and_o of_o the_o ministerial_a honour_n he_o say_v ibid._n d●niq_fw-la ipsi_fw-la honores_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la in_o prima_fw-la quidem_fw-la fancy_n videntur_fw-la honores_fw-la revera_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la honores_fw-la diversi_fw-la sed_fw-la sunt_fw-la diversa_fw-la ministeria_fw-la ut_fw-la puta_fw-la honour_n oculi_fw-la videtur_fw-la quia_fw-la illuminat_fw-la corpus_fw-la sed_fw-la ipse_fw-la honour_n illuminandi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ei_fw-la honour_n sed_fw-la ministerium_fw-la ejus_fw-la so_o much_o to_o prove_v the_o proposition_n that_o the_o late_a english_a episcopacy_n be_v not_o to_o be_v restore_v under_o any_o pretence_n of_o order_n or_o peace_n wherein_o i_o have_v purposely_o forbear_v the_o mention_n of_o its_o abuse_n and_o doleful_a consequent_n because_o they_o may_v suppose_v that_o abuse_n to_o be_v separable_a from_o the_o thing_n consequent_n of_o that_o which_o be_v already_o prove_v to_o save_v the_o debate_n of_o many_o great_a controversy_n that_o break_v the_o peace_n and_o destroy_v or_o diminish_v the_o charity_n of_o many_o i_o may_v abbreviate_v the_o work_n by_o give_v you_o some_o of_o the_o true_a sequels_fw-fr of_o what_o have_v be_v sufficient_o prove_v cons._n i._n the_o take_n down_o of_o the_o english_a episcopacy_n be_v as_o to_o the_o thing_n so_o far_o from_o be_v evil_a 1._o and_o deserve_v the_o accusation_n that_o some_o lay_v upon_o it_o that_o it_o be_v a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o the_o reformation_n and_o well_o be_v of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o these_o nation_n it_o be_v no_o worse_o a_o work_n in_o itself_o consider_v than_o the_o cure_n of_o a_o grievous_a disease_n be_v to_o the_o sick_a and_o the_o supply_n of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o poor_a in_o their_o indigence_n what_o guilt_n lie_v upon_o that_o man_n that_o will_v have_v all_o the_o sick_a to_o perish_v for_o fear_v of_o injure_v one_o physician_n that_o have_v undertake_v the_o sole_a care_n of_o all_o the_o county_n or_o that_o will_v have_v all_o the_o county_n to_o have_v but_o one_o schoolmaster_n or_o a_o hundred_o ship_n to_o have_v but_o one_o pilot_n and_o consequent_o to_o perish_v how_o much_o great_a be_v their_o guilt_n that_o will_v have_v have_v the_o forementioned_a episcopacy_n continue_v to_o the_o hazard_n of_o many_o thousand_o soul_n and_o the_o abasement_n and_o ejection_n of_o holy_a discipline_n the_o pollution_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o harden_v of_o the_o wicked_a and_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n i_o mention_v not_o this_o to_o provoke_v any_o to_o dishonour_v they_o but_o to_o provoke_v the_o person_n themselves_o to_o repentance_n and_o i_o entreat_v they_o to_o consider_v how_o sad_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v that_o without_o any_o great_a inducement_n they_o shall_v draw_v such_o a_o mountain_n of_o guilt_n upon_o their_o soul_n the_o bishop_n have_v the_o temptation_n of_o honour_n and_o riches_n but_o what_o honour_n or_o gain_n have_v you_o to_o seduce_v you_o to_o choose_v a_o share_n with_o other_o man_n in_o their_o sin_n and_o punishment_n i_o meddle_v not_o here_o with_o the_o manner_n of_o demolish_n episcopacy_n but_o with_o the_o matter_n because_o i_o will_v not_o mix_v other_o controversy_n with_o this_o but_o i_o be_o confident_a those_o man_n that_o usual_o own_o the_o late_a episcopacy_n and_o revile_v they_o that_o demolish_a it_o shall_v one_o
not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o ground_n to_o conjecture_v at_o any_o probability_n sect._n 20._o but_o he_o say_v that_o we_o may_v know_v that_o some_o pastor_n at_o least_o be_v true_a or_o else_o god_n have_v forsake_v his_o church_n a●sw_n but_o what_o the_o better_a be_v we_o for_o this_o if_o we_o know_v not_o which_o they_o be_v that_o be_v the_o true_a pastor_n nor_o can_v possible_o come_v to_o know_v it_o sect_n 21._o but_o he_o say_v that_o quod_fw-la christi_fw-la locum_fw-la tenent_fw-la &_o quod_fw-la debemus_fw-la illig_a obedientiam_fw-la may_v be_v know_v and_o thereupon_o he_o say_v tha●_n certain_o sumus_fw-la certitudi●●_n infallibili_fw-la quod_fw-la isti_fw-la quos_fw-la videmus_fw-la sine_fw-la very_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o pastor_n nostri_fw-la nam_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la non_fw-la r●quiritur_fw-la nec_fw-la fides_fw-la nec_fw-la character_n ordinis_fw-la nec_fw-la legitima_fw-la electio_fw-la sed_fw-la solum_fw-la ut_fw-la habeantur_fw-la pro_fw-la talibus_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la from_o all_o this_o you_o may_v note_v 1._o that_o they_o be_v very_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o pastor_n nostri_fw-la that_o be_v never_o ordain_v if_o they_o be_v but_o repute_v such_o by_o the_o church_n 2._o that_o we_o may_v know_v this_o by_o infallible_a certainty_n 3._o and_o that_o we_o owe_v they_o obedience_n as_o such_o so_o that_o as_o to_o the_o church_n they_o be_v true_a pastor_n without_o ordination_n and_o consequent_o to_o the_o church_n a_o succession_n be_v unnecessary_a sect._n 22._o yet_o of_o such_o usurper_n he_o say_v eos_n quidem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o se_fw-la veros_fw-la episcopos_fw-la tamen_fw-la donec_fw-la pro_fw-la talibus_fw-la habentur_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la deberi_fw-la illis_fw-la obedientiam_fw-la cum_fw-la conscientia_fw-la etiam_fw-la erro●●a_fw-la obliget_fw-la so_o that_o they_o be_v not_o very_fw-la episcopi_fw-la in_fw-la se_fw-la and_o yet_o they_o be_v very_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o pastor_n nostri_fw-la if_o bellarmine_n say_v true_a and_o the_o word_n have_v some_o truth_n in_o they_o understand_v according_a to_o the_o distinction_n which_o i_o before_o give_v chap._n 1._o sect._n 5_o 6._o he_o have_v no_o such_o call_n as_o will_v save_v himself_o from_o the_o penalty_n o●_n usurpation_n if_o he_o know_o be_v a_o usurper_n but_o he_o have_v such_o a_o call_v as_o shall_v oblige_v the_o church_n to_o obey_v he_o as_o their_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n sect._n 23_o but_o his_o reason_n cum_fw-la conscientia_fw-la etiam_fw-la erronea_fw-la obliget_fw-la be_v a_o deceit_n and_o neither_o the_o only_a nor_o the_o chie●_n reason_n no●_n any_o reason_n not_o the_o only_a nor_o chief_a reason_n because_o the_o obligation_n arise_v from_o god_n and_o that_o be_v the_o great_a not_o any_o reason_n 1._o because_o indeed_o it_o be_v not_o a_o erroneous_a conscience_n that_o tell_v many_o people_n that_o their_o usurp_a bishop_n or_o pastor_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v as_o true_a minister_n for_o as_o it_o be_v terminate_v on_o the_o pastor_n act_n or_o state_n it_o be_v no_o act_n of_o conscience_n at_o all_o and_o therefore_o no_o error_n of_o conscience_n for_o conscience_n be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o own_o affair_n and_o as_o it_o be_v terminate_v on_o our_o own_o duty_n of_o obey_v they_o it_o be_v not_o erroneous_a but_o right_o for_o it_o be_v the_o will_n of_o god_n that_o for_o order_n sake_n we_o obey_v both_o magistrate_n and_o pastor_n that_o be_v settle_v in_o possession_n if_o they_o rule_v we_o according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n at_o least_o if_o we_o do_v not_o know_v the_o nullity_n o●_n their_o call_n 2._o and_o its_o false_a that_o a_o erroneous_a conscience_n bind_v that_o be_v make_v we_o a_o duty_n for_o at_o the_o same_o instant_n it_o be_v itself_o ●_o sin_o and_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o depose_v it_o and_o change_v 〈◊〉_d and_o renounce_v the_o error_n it_o do_v but_o entangle_v a_o man_n in_o a_o necessity_n of_o sin_v till_o it_o be_v lay_v by_o but_o it_o be_v god_n only_o that_o can_v make_v our_o duty_n and_o cause_v such_o a_o obligation_n sect._n 24._o from_o the_o adversary_n concession_n then_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n or_o present_a true_a ordination_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n church_n or_o ordinance_n quoad_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la for_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v the_o usurper_n and_o that_o as_o long_o as_o they_o be_v take_v for_o true_a pastor_n which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o most_o church_n will_v desire_v in_o the_o case_n sect._n 25._o and_o the_o consequence_n be_v easy_o prove_v for_o where_o god_n oblige_v his_o church_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o pastor_n though_o usurper_n and_o to_o the_o use_n of_o ordinance_n and_o their_o ministration_n there_o will_v he_o bless_v the_o ministry_n and_o those_o ordinance_n to_o the_o innocent_n that_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o his_o usurpation_n and_o that_o obey_v god_n herein_o and_o consequent_o the_o ordinance_n shall_v not_o be_v nullity_n to_o they_o god_n will_v never_o set_v his_o servant_n upon_o the_o use_n of_o a_o mean_n which_o be_v but_o a_o nullity_n nor_o will_v he_o command_v they_o to_o a_o duty_n which_o he_o will_v blast_v to_o they_o when_o he_o have_v do_v without_o their_o fault_n it_o be_v none_o of_o the_o church_n fault_n that_o the_o bishop_n or_o pastor_n be_v a_o usurper_n wh●le_v they_o can_v know_v it_o and_o that_o any_o of_o his_o predecessor_n be_v usurper_n since_o the_o apostle_n day_n and_o therefore_o where_o god_n impose_v duty_n on_o the_o church_n and_o prescribe_v mean_n as_o baptism_n prayer_n the_o lord_n supper_n church-government_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v certain_a that_o he_o will_v not_o blast_v it_o but_o bless_v it_o to_o 〈◊〉_d obedient_a nor_o punish_v the_o church_n so_o for_o the_o secret_a sin_n of_o i_o know_v not_o who_o commit_v i_o know_v not_o where_o nor_o when_o perhaps_o a_o thousand_o year_n ago_o sect._n 26._o argument_n 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people_n may_v do_v good_a to_o thousand_o even_o to_o many_o country_n and_o more_o than_o multitude●_n of_o other_o can_v do_v and_o god_n do_v not_o set_v up_o such_o light_n to_o put_v under_o a_o bushel_n nor_o warrant_v any_o man_n to_o hide_v his_o talent_n nor_o do_v he_o bestow_v extraordinary_a gift_n for_o ordinary_a sevice_n only_o but_o will_v have_v they_o use_v to_o the_o utmost_a advantage_n of_o his_o cause_n and_o for_o the_o great_a good_a of_o soul_n §_o 15._o 4._o and_o it_o be_v not_o the_o take_n up_o of_o another_o call_n or_o species_n of_o ministerial_a office_n for_o the_o ministry_n be_v one_o office_n distinct_a from_o that_o inferior_a sort_n of_o ministry_n of_o deacon_n and_o contain_v the_o power_n and_o obligation_n of_o do_v all_o this_o when_o we_o have_v particular_a call_v it_o be_v but_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o same_o office_n which_o we_o have_v before_o we_o do_v but_o lay_v out_o ourselves_o more_o in_o some_o part_n or_o act_n of_o that_o 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office_n though_o it_o be_v not_o express_v among_o the_o efficient_a cause_n for_o the_o reason_n above_o mention_v and_o because_o i_o be_o now_o more_o distinct_o to_o treat_v of_o it_o by_o itself_o and_o to_o give_v you_o far_a reason_n hereof_o in_o the_o explication_n of_o the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o this_o ordination_n chap._n ii_o of_o the_o nature_n and_o end_n of_o ordination_n sect_n 1._o that_o we_o may_v know_v how_o far_o the_o ordination_n in_o question_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o ministry_n and_o whether_o the_o want_n of_o it_o prove_v a_o nullity_n we_o must_v first_o inquire_v what_o go_v to_o the_o lay_n of_o the_o foundation_n of_o this_o relation_n and_o how_o many_o thing_n concur_v in_o the_o efficiency_n and_o among_o the_o rest_n what_o it_o be_v that_o the_o ordainer_n have_v to_o do_v as_o their_o proper_a part_n and_o what_o be_v the_o reason_n of_o their_o power_n and_o work_n sect._n 2._o as_o all_o that_o deserve_v the_o name_n of_o man_n be_v agree_v that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n in_o the_o world_n but_o from_o god_n the_o absolute_a sovereign_n and_o first_o cause_n of_o power_n so_o all_o that_o deserve_v the_o name_n of_o christian_n be_v agree_v that_o there_o be_v no_o church_n power_n but_o what_o be_v from_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o sovereign_a king_n of_o the_o church_n sect._n 3_o as_o the_o will_n of_o god_n be_v the_o cause_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o no_o thing_n but_o the_o signification_n of_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o convey_n of_o mere_a right_n so_o in_o the_o make_v a_o man_n a_o minister_n of_o the_o gopel_n there_o need_v no_o other_o principal_n efficient_a cause_n then_o the_o will_n of_o jesus_n christ_n nor_o any_o other_o instrumental_a efficient_a but_o what_o be_v of_o use_n to_o the_o signify_v of_o his_o will_n so_o that_o it_o be_v but_o in_o the_o nature_n of_o sign_n that_o they_o be_v necessary_a no_o more_o therefore_o be_v of_o absolute_a necessity_n but_o what_o be_v so_o necessary_a to_o signify_v his_o will_n if_o christ_n will_n may_v be_v signify_v without_o ordination_n a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n without_o it_o though_o in_o other_o respect_v he_o may_v be_v culpable_a in_o his_o entrance_n by_o cross_v the_o will_n of_o christ_n concern_v his_o duty_n in_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o proceed_n sect._n 4._o there_o be_v considerable_a in_o the_o ministry_n 1._o beneficium_fw-la 2._o officium_fw-la 1._o the_o gospel_n pardon_n salvation-ordinance_n be_v those_o great_a benefit_n to_o the_o son_n of_o man_n which_o the_o ministry_n be_v to_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o convey_v to_o they_o and_o be_v itself_o a_o benefit_n as_o it_o be_v the_o mean_n of_o these_o benefit_n in_o this_o respect_n the_o ministry_n be_v a_o gift_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o church_n and_o his_o donation_n be_v the_o necessary_a act_n for_o their_o
episcopal_a brethren_n accommodate_v and_o propound_v somewhat_o for_o a_o peace_n sect._n 2._o i_o shall_v be_v much_o brief_a on_o all_o these_o than_o evidence_n will_v invite_v i_o to_o be_v because_o i_o apprehend_v the_o most_o of_o they_o to_o be_v of_o no_o great_a necessity_n to_o our_o cause_n we_o have_v enough_o without_o they_o and_o lest_o man_n shall_v think_v that_o we_o need_v such_o medium_n more_o than_o we_o do_v and_o because_o of_o my_o exceed_a scarcity_n of_o time_n which_o force_v i_o to_o do_v all_o hasty_o and_o for_o the_o first_o that_o humane_a ordination_n be_v not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n i_o argue_v as_o follow_v reader_n arg._n 1._o if_o the_o necessity_n of_o ordination_n may_v cease_v as_o to_o single_a person_n and_o the_o necessity_n of_o ministration_n continue_v or_o if_o the_o obligation_n to_o each_o be_v thus_o separable_a then_o be_v not_o ordination_n of_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o the_o ministry_n but_o the_o antedent_n be_v true_a which_o i_o shall_v prove_v by_o part_n for_o the_o consequence_n be_v pass_v all_o doubt_n nor_o will_v any_o i_o suppose_v deny_v it_o sect._n 3_o that_o the_o obligation_n to_o be_v ordain_v may_v cease_v to_o some_o person_n i_o prove_v by_o instance_n in_o certain_a case_n and_o 1._o in_o case_n of_o a_o man_n distance_n from_o any_o that_o shall_v ordain_v he_o as_o if_o one_o or_o many_o christian_n be_v cast_v upon_o the_o coast_n of_o any_o indian_a heathen_a or_o mahometan_a nation_n as_o many_o have_v be_v there_o be_v no_o ordination_n possible_a and_o therefore_o not_o necessary_a or_o due_a and_o to_o return_v for_o it_o to_o the_o christian_a part_n of_o the_o world_n may_v be_v as_o impossible_a and_o if_o not_o yet_o unlawful_a by_o reason_n of_o delay_n sect._n 4._o and_o 2._o in_o case_n of_o the_o great_a necessity_n of_o the_o people_n that_o can_v bear_v the_o absence_n of_o such_o as_o be_v able_a to_o teach_v they_o so_o long_o as_o while_o he_o travail_v many_o hundred_o or_o thousand_o mile_n for_o ordination_n as_o basil_n in_o another_o case_n write_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o west_n that_o if_o one_o of_o they_o the_o eastern_a bishop_n shall_v but_o leave_v their_o church_n for_o a_o very_a small_a time_n much_o more_o for_o a_o journey_n into_o the_o west_n they_o must_v give_v up_o their_o church_n to_o the_o wolf_n to_o be_v undo_v before_o they_o return_v and_o this_o case_n be_v ordinary_a abroad_o sect._n 5._o and_o 3._o that_o in_o case_n by_o civil_a war_n or_o enmity_n among_o prince_n man_n be_v unable_a to_o travail_v from_o one_o of_o their_o country_n into_o the_o other_o for_o a_o ordination_n which_o else_o ofttimes_o can_v be_v have_v so_o the_o turk_n and_o persian_n and_o the_o indian_a mogul_n and_o the_o tartarian_n and_o many_o other_o prince_n by_o such_o war_n may_v make_v such_o passage_n a_o impossible_a thing_n nor_o be_v it_o like_v they_o will_v suffer_v their_o subject_n to_o go_v into_o the_o enemy_n country_n sect._n 6._o and_o 4._o in_o case_n that_o prince_n infidel_n or_o other_o shall_v persecute_v ordination_n to_o the_o death_n i_o do_v not_o find_v that_o it_o be_v a_o duty_n to_o be_v ordain_v if_o it_o will_v cost_v all_o man_n that_o seek_v it_o their_o life_n and_o so_o make_v they_o uncapable_a of_o the_o end_n of_o ordination_n for_o the_o dead_a preach_v not_o if_o we_o be_v all_o forbid_v to_o preach_v on_o pain_n of_o death_n i_o know_v we_o shall_v not_o forbear_v unless_o our_o place_n be_v so_o supply_v that_o man_n soul_n be_v not_o apparent_o endanger_v by_o our_o omission_n but_o he_o that_o may_v preach_v without_o ordination_n can_v scarce_o prove_v it_o a_o duty_n to_o seek_v ordination_n when_o it_o will_v cost_v he_o his_o life_n or_o if_o he_o will_v plead_v it_o in_o paper_n he_o will_v soon_o be_v satisfy_v in_o trial_n sect._n 7._o and_o 5._o in_o case_n that_o the_o generality_n of_o bishop_n within_o our_o reach_n turn_v heretic_n as_o in_o many_o part_n of_o the_o east_n in_o the_o arrian_n revolt_n when_o scarce_o seven_o bishop_n remain_v orthodox_n or_o in_o case_n of_o a_o national_a apostasy_n as_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o nubia_n tenduc_n and_o many_o more_o that_o by_o the_o conquest_n of_o infidel_n have_v revolt_v sect._n 8._o and_o 6_o ordination_n be_v no_o duty_n in_o case_n that_o bishop_n confederate_a to_o impose_v any_o unlawful_a oath_n or_o other_o condition_n on_o all_o that_o they_o will_v ordain_v as_o the_o oath_n of_o the_o roman_a prelate_n contain_v divers_a falsehood_n and_o unlawful_a passage_n do_v make_v all_o roman_a ordination_n utter_o impious_a and_o unlawful_a to_o be_v receive_v and_o therefore_o not_o necessary_a sect._n 9_o and_o 7._o in_o case_n that_o bishop_n themselves_o who_o those_o that_o we_o now_o speak_v to_o do_v suppose_v to_o have_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o ordination_n shall_v either_o have_v a_o design_n to_o corrupt_v the_o church_n and_o ordain_v only_o the_o unworthy_a and_o keep_v out_o such_o as_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n require_v or_o set_v up_o a_o destructive_a faction_n or_o by_o negligence_n or_o any_o other_o cause_n shall_v refuse_v to_o ordain_v such_o as_o shall_v be_v ordain_v in_o all_o these_o case_n ordination_n be_v impossible_a to_o they_o sect._n 10._o and_o 8._o in_o case_n that_o death_n cut_v off_o all_o the_o bishop_n within_o our_o reach_n or_o that_o the_o remnant_n be_v by_o sickness_n or_o banishment_n or_o imprisonment_n hinder_v or_o by_o danger_n affright_v to_o deny_v ordination_n or_o by_o any_o such_o mean_n become_v in_o accessible_a ordination_n must_v here_o fail_v sect._n 11._o and_o 9_o in_o case_n that_o bishop_n through_o contention_n be_v unknown_a as_o bellarmine_n confess_v it_o have_v be_v at_o rome_n that_o the_o wise_a can_v not_o tell_v which_o be_v pope_n especial_o if_o withal_o both_o party_n seem_v to_o be_v such_o as_o be_v not_o to_o be_v submit_v to_o ordination_n fail_v sect._n 12._o and_o 10._o in_o case_n of_o prophetical_a immediate_a call_v from_o god_n which_o many_o have_v of_o old_a and_o god_n have_v not_o bind_v himself_o from_o the_o like_o again_o though_o none_o have_v reason_n to_o expect_v it_o and_o none_o shall_v rash_o presume_v of_o it_o in_o all_o these_o ten_o case_n ordination_n fail_v sect_n 13._o and_o that_o it_o do_v so_o needs_o no_o proof_n the_o instance_n prove_v it_o themselves_o brief_o 1._o nemo_fw-la tenetur_fw-la ad_fw-la impossibile_fw-it but_o in_o many_o of_o these_o case_n ordination_n be_v impossible_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 14._o and_o 2._o nemo_fw-la tenetur_fw-la ad_fw-la inhonestum_fw-la no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o sin_n for_o turpe_fw-la est_fw-la impossibile_fw-it in_fw-it law_n but_o in_o many_o of_o these_o case_n or_o all_o be_v plain_o sin_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 20._o and_o 3_o cessante_fw-la sine_fw-la cessat_fw-la obligatio_fw-la the_o mean_n be_v for_o the_o end_n but_o in_o many_o if_o not_o all_o these_o case_n cessat_fw-la finis_fw-la &_o ratio_fw-la medii_fw-la therefore_o cessat_fw-la obligatio_fw-la sect._n 21._o and_o 4._o cessante_fw-la materia_fw-la cessat_fw-la obligatio_fw-la but_o here_o aliquando_fw-la cessat_fw-la materia_fw-la as_o in_o case_n of_o the_o apostasy_n death_n banishment_n concealment_n of_o bishop_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 22._o and_o now_o i_o be_o next_o to_o prove_v that_o when_o the_o obligation_n to_o ordination_n cease_v yet_o the_o obligation_n to_o ministerial_a office_n cease_v not_o but_o such_o must_v be_v do_v and_o 1._o i_o prove_v it_o hence_o because_o the_o obligation_n of_o the_o common_a law_n of_o nature_n cease_v not_o upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o a_o point_n of_o order_n but_o if_o the_o ministerial_a work_n shall_v cease_v the_o obligation_n of_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n must_v cease_v here_o i_o have_v two_o point_n to_o prove_v 1._o that_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n suppose_v the_o work_n of_o redemption_n already_o wrought_v and_o the_o gospel_n and_o ordinance_n establish_v oblige_v man_n that_o be_v able_a and_o have_v opportunity_n to_o do_v the_o work_n of_o minister_n 2._o and_o that_o this_o law_n be_v not_o cease_v when_o ordination_n cease_v sect_n 23._o the_o law_n of_o nature_n prohibit_v cruelty_n and_o require_v charity_n and_o to_o show_v mercy_n to_o man_n in_o great_a necessity_n according_a to_o our_o ability_n but_o to_o suspend_v the_o exercise_n of_o the_o ministerial_a office_n be_v the_o great_a cruelty_n where_o there_o be_v ability_n and_o opportunity_n to_o exercise_v it_o and_o to_o exercise_v it_o be_v the_o great_a work_n of_o mercy_n in_o all_o the_o world_n nature_n teach_v we_o to_o do_v good_a to_o all_o m●n_z while_o we_o have_v time_n and_o to_o save_v they_o with_o fear_n pull_v they_o
if_o the_o ordination_n of_o papist_n bishop_n be_v valid_a much_o more_o be_v the_o ordination_n of_o english_a presbyter_n so_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a in_o the_o judgement_n of_o those_o against_o who_o we_o dispute_v therefore_o the_o consequent_a must_v be_v grant_v by_o they_o on_o that_o supposition_n sect._n 33._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o the_o popish_a bishop_n be_v more_o unlike_a to_o the_o scripture_n bishop_n and_o more_o uncapable_a of_o ordain_v than_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n be_v for_o 1._o the_o papist_n prelate_n profess_v to_o receive_v their_o power_n from_o a_o vice-christ_n at_o lest_o quoad_fw-la exercitium_fw-la &_o media_fw-la conserendi_fw-la which_o protestant_a presbyter_n do_v not_o 2._o the_o papist_n bishop_n profess_v themselves_o pastor_n of_o a_o new_a catholic_n church_n which_o be_v head_v by_o the_o papacy_n as_o a_o essential_a part_n and_o which_o christ_n will_v not_o own_o as_o such_o but_o so_o do_v not_o the_o protestant_a presbyter_n 3._o the_o papist_n prelate_n ordain_v man_n to_o the_o false_a office_n of_o turn_v bread_n into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n by_o the_o way_n of_o transubstantiation_n in_o their_o consecration_n and_o offer_v it_o as_o a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o quick_a and_o dead_a and_o deliver_v this_o as_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o bread_n to_o the_o communicant_n and_o persuade_v they_o that_o it_o be_v such_o and_o hold_v and_o carry_v it_o to_o be_v worship_v by_o they_o with_o divine_a worship_n and_o the_o like_a but_o the_o protestant_a presbyter_n be_v ordain_v and_o do_v ordain_v other_o to_o that_o true_a office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n or_o pastor_n or_o bishop_n which_o christ_n have_v institute_v 4._o the_o papist_n prelate_n have_v abundance_n of_o false_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n in_o worship_n which_o the_o protestant_a presbyter_n have_v not_o 5._o and_o they_o have_v no_o more_o to_o show_v for_o a_o power_n of_o ordination_n than_o our_o presbyter_n have_v so_o that_o these_o with_o many_o the_o like_a consideration_n will_v prove_v that_o if_o the_o papist_n ordination_n be_v valid_a that_o of_o the_o protestant_a church_n by_o presbyter_n be_v so_o much_o more_o and_o doubtless_o they_o that_o plead_v for_o a_o succession_n from_o the_o papist_n prelate_n do_v hold_v their_o ordination_n valid_a sect._n 34._o argument_n 13._o if_o the_o protestant_a church_n that_o have_v no_o prelate_n be_v true_a church_n in_o a_o political_a sense_n and_o the_o ordinance_n among_o they_o valid_a and_o to_o be_v own_v and_o receive_v then_o be_v the_o pastor_n of_o those_o church_n true_a pastor_n though_o they_o have_v no_o ordination_n but_o by_o presbyter_n but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v clear_a and_o grant_v by_o they_o that_o we_o have_v now_o to_o do_v with_o because_o the_o pastor_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n as_o political_n and_o the_o say_a ordinance_n of_o public_a worship_n as_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o government_n can_v be_v allowable_a without_o they_o nor_o such_o as_o the_o people_n shall_v submit_v to_o or_o receive_v this_o therefore_o we_o may_v take_v as_o grant_v sect._n 35._o and_o for_o the_o minor_a that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v true_a church_n that_o have_v no_o prelate_n 1._o there_o be_v so_o few_o of_o they_o that_o have_v prelate_n that_o he_o that_o will_v unchurch_n all_o the_o rest_n i_o suppose_v when_o he_o play_v his_o game_n above_o board_n will_v take_v it_o for_o a_o injury_n to_o be_v account_v a_o protestant_a himself_n 2._o if_o the_o church_n of_o the_o west_n call_v papist_n and_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n asia_n and_o america_n be_v true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v true_a administration_n than_o much_o more_o confident_o may_v we_o affirm_v that_o the_o protestant_n be_v so_o too_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v maintain_v by_o those_o that_o we_o now_o dispute_v against_o except_v the_o papist_n who_o yet_o maintain_v it_o as_o of_o their_o own_o church_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 36._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o the_o papist_n greek_n armenian_n georgian_n syrian_n egyptian_n abasine_n etc._n etc._n have_v much_o more_o to_o be_v say_v against_o they_o than_o we_o have_v and_o if_o the_o lesser_a or_o suppose_a imperfection_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n do_v unchurch_n they_o for_o want_v prelate_n then_o the_o many_o great_a and_o real_a defect_n of_o the_o other_o church_n will_v unchurch_n they_o much_o more_o especial_o this_o hold_v as_o to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o yet_o be_v take_v by_o the_o dissenter_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o by_o some_o of_o they_o at_o least_o deny_v to_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n their_o vicechrist_n and_o usurp_a head_n and_o all_o the_o ministry_n that_o hold_v by_o he_o afford_v we_o other_o kind_n of_o argument_n against_o their_o church_n then_o want_v of_o prelate_n can_v afford_v they_o or_o other_o against_o our_o church_n sect_n 37._o and_o if_o any_o will_v deny_v the_o antecedent_n so_o far_o as_o to_o unchurch_n all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n that_o be_v more_o defective_a than_o the_o protestant_n he_o will_v blot_v out_o of_o his_o creed_n the_o article_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o be_v a_o seeker_n or_o next_o one_o to_o day_n be_v like_a to_o be_v a_o infidel_n ere_o long_o as_o i_o shall_v further_o show_v when_o i_o speak_v of_o the_o sinfulness_n of_o such_o sect._n 38._o argument_n 14._o if_o the_o administration_n of_o a_o usurp_a presbyter_n to_o a_o innocent_a people_n be_v valid_a and_o not_o nullity_n then_o the_o ordination_n of_o a_o usurp_a ordainer_n to_o a_o innocent_a expectant_a be_v valid_a and_o consequent_o the_o ordination_n of_o presbyter_n be_v valid_a if_o they_o be_v usurper_n as_o they_o be_v unjust_o say_v to_o be_v but_o the_o administration_n of_o usurp_a presbyter_n to_o a_o innocent_a people_n be_v valid_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 39_o the_o antecedent_n be_v grant_v by_o bellarmine_n himself_o in_o the_o place_n before_o cite_v who_o say_v that_o no_o more_o be_v require_v to_o oblige_v the_o people_n to_o obey_v he_o and_o submit_v then_o that_o he_o be_v repute_v a_o pastor_n and_o all_o must_v say_v so_o 1._o that_o will_v not_o rob_v the_o innocent_a of_o the_o benefit_n of_o god_n ordinance_n because_o of_o a_o usurper_n fault_n 2._o and_o that_o will_v not_o leave_v the_o people_n almost_o common_o in_o a_o utter_a uncertainty_n who_o they_o shall_v take_v for_o a_o pastor_n and_o obey_v and_o when_o the_o ordinance_n be_v valid_a for_o their_o good_a sect._n 40._o the_o consequence_n be_v make_v good_a by_o the_o parity_n of_o reason_n that_o be_v in_o the_o two_o case_n if_o usurpation_n cause_v not_o a_o nullity_n invalidity_n or_o unprofitableness_n in_o one_o case_n to_o the_o innocent_a receiver_n no_o nor_o make_v it_o his_o sin_n to_o receive_v no_o more_o will_v it_o in_o the_o other_o for_o there_o be_v no_o reason_n for_o any_o such_o difference_n nay_o i●_n it_o be_v a_o duty_n to_o submit_v to_o a_o unknown_a usurper_n in_o several_a case_n in_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n hear_v pray_v etc._n etc._n so_o be_v it_o a_o duty_n in_o such_o case_n to_o receive_v ordination_n sect._n 41._o object_n but_o the_o usurp_a presbyter_n do_v nothing_o but_o what_o belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n but_o the_o usurp_a ordainer_n do_v that_o which_o belong_v not_o to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n and_o therefore_o his_o action_n be_v a_o nullity_n as_o be_v extra_fw-la proprium_fw-la forum_n sect._n 42._o answ._n 1._o it_o be_v prove_v before_o to_o belong_v to_o the_o office_n of_o a_o presbyter_n to_o ordain_v 2._o but_o suppose_v it_o be_v not_o yet_o the_o objection_n be_v vain_a because_o it_o be_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n that_o the_o ordain_v presbyter_n do_v pretend_v to_o and_o which_o you_o imagine_v that_o he_o do_v usurp_v they_o say_v that_o subject_a presbyter_n quoad_fw-la ordinem_fw-la vel_fw-la officium_fw-la be_v no_o creature_n of_o god_n appointment_n and_o therefore_o they_o renounce_v that_o office_n and_o claim_v that_o office_n which_o you_o call_v episcopacy_n and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n the_o quarrel_n between_o we_o be_v not_o about_o mere_a bishop_n such_o as_o dr._n h._n h._n describe_v as_o aforesaid_a these_o be_v not_o deny_v but_o the_o parish_n minister_n profess_v themselves_o such_o bishop_n but_o it_o be_v about_o the_o other_o sort_n of_o presbyter_n subject_a to_o bishop_n that_o the_o quarrel_n be_v for_o they_o say_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v have_v none_o such_o and_o dr._n h._n h._n say_v there_o be_v no_o evidence_n that_o any_o such_o
will_v appear_v that_o the_o power_n of_o baptise_v and_o judge_v who_o shall_v be_v take_v for_o christian_n and_o who_o not_o and_o the_o power_n of_o administer_a the_o eucharist_n and_o eucharistical_a action_n in_o the_o church_n be_v as_o great_a as_o this_o of_o ordination_n especial_o suppose_v that_o a_o presbytery_n must_v concur_v in_o this_o and_o a_o single_a pesbyter_n may_v do_v the_o other_o and_o therefore_o the_o one_o be_v grant_v they_o the_o other_o can_v be_v deny_v sect._n 49._o argument_n 16._o if_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o teacher_n in_o christ_n day_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v valid_a to_o the_o people_n than_o the_o ordination_n of_o our_o presbytery_n and_o the_o administration_n of_o our_o presbyter_n so_o ordain_v be_v valid_a to_o the_o people_n and_o receiver_n now_o but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a therefore_o so_o be_v the_o consequent_a this_o argument_n be_v manage_v so_o frequent_o and_o copious_o by_o our_o minister_n heretofore_o against_o the_o separatist_n that_o i_o shall_v need_v to_o say_v but_o little_a of_o it_o sect._n 50._o the_o antecedent_n be_v prove_v easy_o from_o scripture_n act_n 13.27_o &_o 15.21_o show_v that_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n be_v read_v in_o the_o synagogue_n every_o sabbath_n day_n and_o luke_n 16.29_o show_v that_o it_o be_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o hear_v they_o mat._n 23.1_o 2_o 3._o then_o speak_v jesus_n to_o the_o multitude_n and_o to_o his_o disciple_n say_v the_o scribe_n and_o the_o pharisee_n sit_v in_o moses_n seat_n all_o therefore_o whatsoever_o they_o bid_v you_o observe_v that_o observe_v and_o do_v but_o do_v not_o you_o after_o their_o work_n for_o they_o say_v and_o do_v not_o mat._n 8.4_o mark_v 1.44_o luke_n 16.29_o but_o go_v thy_o way_n show_v thyself_o to_o the_o priest_n and_o offer_v for_o thy_o cleanse_v those_o thing_n which_o moses_n command_v etc._n etc._n so_o that_o it_o be_v the_o people_n duty_n to_o hear_v and_o submit_v to_o the_o teacher_n and_o the_o priest_n sect._n 51._o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequence_n be_v because_o these_o priest_n and_o teacher_n have_v not_o so_o good_a a_o call_n as_o our_o presbyter_n to_o their_o office_n but_o be_v liable_a to_o far_o more_o exception_n the_o priest_n be_v not_o of_o the_o line_n that_o god_n have_v by_o his_o law_n appoint_v to_o succeed_v in_o the_o priesthood_n the_o succession_n have_v long_o fail_v as_o to_o the_o just_a title_n of_o the_o successor_n the_o priesthood_n be_v buy_v for_o money_n of_o the_o civil_a power_n and_o instead_o of_o be_v the_o priest_n for_o life_n he_o be_v oft_o change_v every_o year_n choose_v by_o a_o pagan_a prince_n and_o by_o he_o displace_v and_o most_o think_v there_o be_v two_o at_o once_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n have_v abominable_o corrupt_v the_o law_n by_o their_o tradition_n and_o false_a exposition_n and_o their_o call_v be_v much_o more_o defective_a than_o we_o so_o that_o if_o they_o must_v pass_v yet_o for_o minister_n of_o god_n and_o their_o administration_n be_v valid_a then_o so_o must_v presbyter_n and_o their_o administration_n be_v esteem_v much_o more_o i_o know_v we_o need_v not_o this_o odious_a comparison_n of_o our_o ministry_n with_o the_o priest_n or_o pharisee_n but_o to_o show_v the_o adversary_n the_o odiousness_n of_o their_o accusation_n and_o grossness_n of_o their_o 〈…〉_z 〈…〉_z presbyter_n may_v make_v a_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d they_o may_v make_v a_o 〈◊〉_d but_o they_o may_v make_v a_o bishop_n 〈◊〉_d they_o may_v make_v 〈◊〉_d ordain_v a_o presbyter_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o major_n be_v prove_v thus_o 1._o they_o that_o may_v confer_v 〈…〉_z degree_n may_v confer_v the_o low_a the_o place_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v suppose_v the_o high_a degree_n and_o the_o place_n of_o a_o presbyter_n the_o low_a 2._o ●he_n bishop_n themselves_o require_v more_o power_n in_o or_o to_o the_o consecration_n of_o a_o bishop_n then_o to_o the_o ordination_n of_o a_o minister_n call_v a_o presbyter_n the_o late_a may_v be_v do_v according_a to_o their_o canon_n by_o one_o bishop_n with_o assist_v presbyter_n but_o the_o former_a must_v have_v three_o bishop_n at_o the_o least_o sect._n 53._o to_o this_o it_o be_v common_o answer_v that_o praecise_a the_o ordination_n of_o a_o presbyter_n be_v a_o great_a work_n than_o the_o make_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o the_o major_n be_v deny_v to_o which_o i_o reply_v 1._o i_o speak_v not_o of_o a_o great_a work_n because_o the_o word_n great_a be_v ambiguous_a and_o may_v signify_v the_o great_a change_n in_o regard_n of_o the_o terminus_n a_o quo_fw-la which_o be_v not_o it_o that_o i_o intend_v but_o the_o addition_n of_o a_o high_a degree_n of_o power_n may_v require_v more_o power_n to_o the_o effect_v it_o than_o the_o give_v of_o the_o low_a degree_n though_o the_o low_a be_v praecise_a the_o great_a change_n for_o the_o high_a be_v the_o great_a change_n as_o to_o the_o terminus_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la and_o as_o episcopacy_n comprehend_v or_o suppose_v presbytery_n so_o the_o power_n of_o make_v a_o bishop_n comprehend_v or_o suppose_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v presbyter_n it_o may_v be_v praecise_a or_o cum_fw-la praecisione_n as_o the_o schoolman_n speak_v it_o may_v be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o make_v a_o beggar_n to_o be_v the_o chief_a prince_n next_o to_o the_o king_n in_o a_o kingdom_n and_o yet_o sin●_n praecisione_n and_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o terminus_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la it_o be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o make_v he_o afterward_o a_o king_n and_o doubtless_o the_o addition_n of_o this_o power_n require_v the_o great_a power_n to_o effect_v it_o sect._n 54._o otherwise_o if_o the_o dissenter_n will_v stand_v to_o their_o answer_n we_o shall_v from_o their_o own_o ground_n infallible_o overthrow_v their_o cause_n thus_o it_o be_v a_o great_a work_n to_o baptise_v then_o to_o ordain_v or_o confirm_v therefore_o he_o that_o may_v baptise_v may_v ordain_v and_o confirm_v just_o as_o make_v a_o presbyter_n be_v cum_fw-la praecisione_n and_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o terminus_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la a_o great_a work_n than_o consecrate_v or_o make_v a_o bishop_n so_o baptise_v be_v come_v praecisione_n and_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o terminus_fw-la a_o quo_fw-la a_o far_o great_a work_n than_o ordination_n the_o one_o make_v a_o christian_n and_o the_o other_o a_o minister_n of_o a_o christian_n see_v aquil._n in_o scotel_n in_o 4._o scent_n d._n 7._o q._n 2._o pag._n 816._o of_o confirmation_n sect._n 55._o it_o be_v only_o the_o minor_a therefore_o that_o will_v hold_v dispute_n which_o i_o prove_v from_o the_o well_o know_a word_n of_o hierom_n to_o evagrius_n which_o bishop_n usher_v tell_v i_o he_o allege_v to_o king_n charles_n at_o the_o isle_n of_o wight_n to_o this_o end_n when_o he_o be_v ask_v by_o he_o for_o a_o instance_n of_o presbyter_n ordain_v quod_fw-la autem_fw-la postea_fw-la unus_fw-la electus_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la caeteris_fw-la praepone●etur_fw-la in_fw-la schismatis_fw-la remedium_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la unusquisque_fw-la ad_fw-la se_fw-la trahens_fw-la christi_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la rumperet_fw-la no_o &_o alexandria_n à_fw-fr marco_n evangelista_n usque_fw-la ad_fw-la heraclam_fw-la &_o dionysium_fw-la episcopos_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la semper_fw-la unum_fw-la ex_fw-la se_fw-la electum_fw-la in_fw-la excelsiori_fw-la gradu_fw-la collocatum_fw-la episcopum_fw-la nominabant_fw-la quomodo_fw-la si_fw-la exercitus_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la faciat_fw-la aut_fw-la diaconi_fw-la eligant_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la quem_fw-la industrium_fw-la noverint_fw-la &_o archidiaconum_n vocent_fw-la presbyter_n than_o make_v the_o first_o bishop_n at_o alexandria_n sect._n 56._o to_o this_o it_o be_v answer_v that_o it_o be_v only_a election_n of_o bishop_n that_o hierom_n ascribe_v to_o the_o alexandrian_a presbyter_n and_o not_o ordination_n of_o they_o for_o that_o be_v do_v by_o some_o other_o bishop_n and_o that_o it_o be_v ordination_n that_o make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n sect._n 57_o to_o this_o i_o reply_v 1._o hierom_n here_o undertake_v to_o tell_v we_o how_o bishop_n be_v make_v at_o alexandria_n but_o make_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o other_o ordination_n or_o consecration_n than_o these_o word_n express_v as_o do_v by_o the_o presbyter_n and_o therefore_o till_o they_o prove_v it_o we_o must_v take_v the_o affirmation_n of_o another_o ordination_n to_o be_v but_o the_o groundless_a presumption_n of_o the_o assertor_n 2._o hierom_n do_v purposely_o bring_v this_o as_o a_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o identity_n first_o and_o the_o nearness_n afterward_o of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n that_o presbyter_n make_v bishop_n which_o will_v have_v be_v no_o argument_n if_o it_o be_v not_o presbyter_n but_o prelate_n that_o make_v they_o and_o if_o the_o presbyter_n only_o choose_v they_o for_o 3._o the_o people_n may_v choose_v a_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o the_o presbyter_n and_o ordinary_o do_v