Selected quad for the lemma: duty_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
duty_n bind_v law_n obligation_n 1,168 5 9.4651 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A57854 An answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2217; ESTC R31782 123,510 178

There are 3 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

say_v we_o may_v see_v what_o fit_a advice_n this_o healer_n give_v while_o he_o thus_o say_v p._n 3._o the_o only_a way_n leave_v for_o the_o church_n setlement_n and_o peace_n under_o such_o variety_n of_o apprehension_n concern_v the_o mean_n and_o method_n in_o order_n to_o it_o be_v to_o pitch_v upon_o such_o a_o foundation_n if_o possible_a to_o be_v find_v out_o whereon_o the_o different_a party_n retain_v their_o private_a apprehension_n may_v yet_o be_v agree_v to_o carry_v on_o the_o same_o work_n in_o common_a in_o order_n to_o the_o peace_n and_o tranquillity_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n hitherto_o we_o consent_v with_o he_o and_o wish_v he_o will_v help_v we_o to_o such_o a_o foundation_n so_o as_o itself_o be_v found_v on_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o not_o contrary_a to_o it_o but_o he_o go_v on_o which_o say_v he_o can_v be_v by_o leave_v all_o absolute_o to_o follow_v their_o own_o way_n for_o that_o be_v to_o build_v a_o babel_n instead_o of_o salem_n this_o also_o we_o grant_v but_o that_o which_o follow_v we_o can_v agree_v to_o it_o must_v be_v then_o say_v he_o by_o convince_a man_n that_o neither_o of_o these_o way_n to_o peace_n and_o order_n which_o they_o contend_v about_o be_v necessary_a by_o way_n of_o divine_a command_n though_o some_o be_v as_o a_o mean_n to_o a_o end_n but_o which_o particular_a way_n or_o form_v it_o must_v be_v be_v whole_o leave_v to_o the_o prudence_n of_o those_o in_o who_o power_n and_o trust_v it_o be_v to_o see_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n secure_v on_o last_a foundation_n if_o this_o be_v a_o fit_a way_n of_o heal_a church-rent_n than_o those_o church_n be_v in_o the_o best_a way_n to_o peace_n who_o cast_v away_o the_o bible_n and_o will_v not_o look_v there_o what_o god_n have_v command_v because_o some_o may_v say_v he_o have_v command_v this_o and_o other_o he_o have_v command_v that_o and_o so_o refer_v all_o controversy_n to_o be_v determine_v by_o man_n as_o suppose_v nothing_o to_o be_v determine_v by_o god_n and_o indeed_o this_o be_v the_o basis_n that_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o popish_a church_n stand_v upon_o and_o i_o believe_v no_o jesuit_n will_v have_v give_v another_o advice_n than_o this_o towards_o the_o settle_n of_o our_o divide_a condition_n what_o must_v we_o say_v that_o neither_o way_n be_v command_v of_o god_n whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o not_o when_o we_o can_v prove_v from_o scripture_n that_o this_o be_v christ_n institution_n that_o not_o but_o a_o device_n and_o usurpation_n of_o man_n must_v we_o yield_v this_o our_o ground_n and_o leave_v the_o whole_a matter_n to_o man_n will_n as_o be_v the_o ready_a way_n to_o peace_n if_o this_o be_v his_o cure_n for_o church-division_n i_o believe_v they_o who_o take_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o their_o rule_n especial_o in_o church-matter_n will_v think_v it_o worse_o than_o the_o disease_n every_o way_n to_o peace_n be_v not_o a_o good_a way_n otherwise_o there_o be_v no_o duty_n at_o any_o time_n to_o contend_v for_o the_o truth_n once_o deliver_v to_o the_o saint_n judas_n 3_o §_o 10._o i_o do_v not_o dissent_v from_o the_o learned_a author_n in_o his_o determination_n about_o the_o nature_n of_o right_n and_o divine_a right_n but_o must_v examine_v some_o of_o the_o principle_n from_o which_o he_o will_v have_v a_o divine_a right_o to_o be_v infer_v wherefore_o as_o to_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o first_o chapter_n i_o first_o take_v notice_n that_o what_o he_o large_o discourse_v from_o p._n 6._o to_o p._n 11._o concern_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o that_o which_o be_v not_o forbid_v by_o god_n however_o it_o may_v be_v grant_v sano_fw-la sensu_fw-la on_o which_o i_o now_o insist_v not_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o reach_v his_o point_n unless_o he_o prove_v that_o christ_n have_v determine_v no_o species_n of_o government_n for_o if_o he_o have_v determine_v one_o than_o all_o other_o inconsistent_a with_o it_o be_v eo_fw-la ipso_fw-la prohibit_v wherefore_o though_o we_o grant_v to_o he_o that_o ratio_fw-la regiminis_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la be_v juris_fw-la naturalis_fw-la yet_o we_o can_v grant_v except_o he_o prove_v it_o that_o the_o modus_fw-la of_o it_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la permissivi_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v it_o be_v juris_fw-la humani_fw-la but_o we_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v juris_fw-la divini_fw-la partim_fw-la naturalis_fw-la partim_fw-la positivi_fw-la viz._n in_o respect_n of_o the_o divers_a part_n of_o which_o that_o form_n be_v make_v up_o which_o be_v approve_v of_o god_n §_o 11._o to_o make_v up_o a_o obligation_n whereby_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o a_o thing_n as_o duty_n we_o assert_v with_o he_o that_o there_o be_v require_v legislation_n and_o promulgation_n of_o it_o but_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o way_n of_o promulgation_n of_o divine_a positive_a law_n that_o be_v necessary_a to_o lay_v a_o obligation_n on_o we_o i_o can_v full_o agree_v to_o p._n 12._o he_o assert_v that_o whatsoever_o bind_v christian_n as_o a_o universal_a stand_a law_n must_v be_v clear_o reveal_v as_o such_o and_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n in_o such_o evident_a term_n as_o all_o who_o have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v therein_o may_v discern_v it_o to_o have_v be_v the_o will_n of_o christ_n that_o it_o shall_v perpetual_o oblige_v all_o believer_n to_o the_o world_n end_n as_o be_v clear_a in_o the_o case_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o because_o the_o learned_a author_n can_v not_o but_o see_v how_o obvious_a it_o be_v to_o every_o one_o to_o argue_v against_o this_o assertion_n from_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o change_n of_o the_o sabbath_n and_o infant_n baptism_n which_o he_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v christ_n will_n and_o law_n establish_v and_o yet_o not_o thus_o reveal_v therefore_o he_o labour_v to_o obviate_v that_o argument_n by_o this_o exception_n to_o wit_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o same_o necessity_n for_o a_o particular_a and_o clear_a revelation_n in_o the_o alteration_n of_o a_o law_n unrepealed_a in_o some_o circumstance_n of_o it_o as_o there_o be_v for_o the_o establish_n of_o a_o new_a law_n the_o former_a say_v he_o may_v be_v do_v by_o a_o different_a practice_n of_o person_n infallible_o guide_v as_o in_o the_o case_n of_o the_o change_n of_o the_o sabbath_n and_o infant_n baptism_n not_o so_o the_o latter_a to_o this_o i_o reply_v a_o few_o thing_n 1._o it_o have_v be_v good_a if_o in_o a_o assertion_n so_o fundamental_a to_o his_o whole_a discourse_n and_o so_o positive_a for_o the_o clearness_n of_o divine_a law_n he_o himself_o have_v use_v more_o clearness_n there_o be_v no_o small_a muddiness_n and_o ambiguity_n in_o his_o expression_n which_o i_o must_v a_o little_a remove_n and_o first_o when_o he_o say_v that_o christ_n law_n must_v be_v reveal_v clear_o as_o such_o either_o he_o mean_v as_o hooker_n eccles._n polit_fw-la defend_v this_o opinion_n of_o our_o author_n express_v it_o that_o they_o must_v be_v set_v down_o in_o the_o form_n of_o law_n but_o it_o be_v too_o great_a presumption_n to_o prescribe_v to_o he_o how_o he_o shall_v word_n the_o intimation_n of_o his_o will_n to_o his_o people_n or_o in_o what_o mode_n or_o form_n he_o shall_v speak_v to_o they_o his_o will_n manifest_v to_o we_o be_v that_o which_o oblige_v we_o and_o this_o may_v be_v without_o such_o a_o form_n or_o he_o mean_v that_o christ_n law_n must_v be_v so_o clear_o reveal_v as_o that_o we_o may_v come_v to_o know_v that_o this_o we_o be_v to_o do_v and_o that_o to_o forbear_v and_o that_o he_o will_v have_v we_o to_o take_v notice_n of_o it_o as_o his_o will_n and_o this_o we_o agree_v to_o and_o do_v maintain_v that_o the_o form_n of_o church-government_n be_v thus_o reveal_v another_o ambiguity_n be_v that_o he_o require_v they_o to_o be_v lay_v down_o in_o such_o evident_a term_n as_o all_o who_o have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v therein_o may_v discern_v they_o to_o be_v his_o will_n to_o oblige_v we_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o who_o have_v competent_a understanding_n and_o mean_n and_o do_v serious_o search_v the_o truth_n in_o these_o thing_n which_o i_o suppose_v be_v the_o meaning_n of_o have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v in_o they_o may_v for_o the_o objective_a evidence_n of_o the_o thing_n come_v to_o know_v they_o this_o we_o do_v not_o deny_v if_o he_o mean_v that_o such_o will_v certain_o be_v convince_v of_o they_o and_o that_o there_o can_v be_v no_o impediment_n insuperable_a by_o they_o neither_o in_o the_o object_n nor_o in_o their_o blindness_n or_o prejudice_n or_o other_o infirmity_n or_o disadvantage_n that_o they_o lie_v under_o which_o may_v make_v they_o that_o they_o can_v see_v that_o to_o be_v the_o will_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v so_o reveal_v this_o we_o utter_o deny_v now_o
this_o latter_a not_o the_o former_a must_v be_v his_o meaning_n because_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n which_o i_o will_v not_o impute_v to_o so_o learned_a a_o man_n for_o what_o be_v not_o so_o reveal_v be_v not_o reveal_v at_o all_o see_v it_o be_v unintelligible_a by_o defect_n of_o objective_a light_n now_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n law_n must_v be_v thus_o reveal_v be_v to_o say_v that_o they_o must_v be_v promulgate_v some_o way_n or_o other_o which_o be_v never_o question_v by_o any_o and_o make_v nothing_o for_o his_o design_n viz._n that_o christ_n law_n must_v be_v so_o reveal_v as_o that_o the_o dispute_v about_o they_o shall_v be_v take_v away_o yea_o he_o can_v mean_v this_o for_o the_o change_n of_o any_o circumstance_n of_o a_o old_a law_n must_v at_o least_o be_v thus_o reveal_v else_o it_o be_v not_o reveal_v at_o all_o and_o yet_o he_o require_v another_o sort_n of_o revelation_n of_o new_a law_n as_o appear_v from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v §_o 12._o 2._o if_o this_o assertion_n thus_o explain_v be_v true_a there_o shall_v remain_v no_o more_o controversy_n among_o serious_a and_o learned_a man_n about_o any_o of_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n for_o such_o have_v their_o sense_n exercise_v in_o these_o thing_n wherefore_o they_o may_v if_o we_o believe_v this_o author_n know_v such_o to_o be_v christ_n law_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v in_o a_o error_n about_o they_o but_o how_o absurd_a this_o be_v sad_a experience_n make_v too_o evident_a be_v it_o not_o a_o controversy_n whether_o christ_n have_v appoint_v seven_o or_o but_o two_o sacrament_v whether_o he_o have_v command_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o saint_n depart_v whether_o excommunication_n be_v by_o his_o law_n etc._n etc._n we_o must_v then_o either_o say_v that_o christ_n have_v make_v no_o law_n in_o these_o thing_n or_o that_o man_n can_v mistake_v in_o they_o but_o that_o they_o who_o oppose_v the_o truth_n herein_o do_v oppose_v that_o which_o they_o know_v to_o be_v christ_n law_n or_o that_o christ_n have_v make_v and_o reveal_v a_o law_n about_o these_o thing_n but_o these_o man_n can_v see_v it_o which_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o author_n assertion_n 3._o be_v it_o not_o enough_o to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n of_o any_o who_o sober_o seek_v to_o know_v what_o be_v the_o good_a and_o perfect_a and_o acceptable_a will_n of_o god_n that_o the_o lord_n in_o his_o word_n have_v give_v some_o intimation_n from_o which_o we_o may_v gather_v that_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v his_o will_n sure_a see_v it_o be_v his_o will_n that_o bind_v the_o conscience_n whatever_o way_n we_o come_v to_o the_o knowledge_n of_o this_o will_n we_o be_v oblige_v by_o it_o to_o our_o duty_n now_o we_o may_v be_v able_a in_o some_o case_n to_o deduce_v from_o scripture_n such_o a_o thing_n to_o be_v the_o will_n of_o god_n though_o it_o be_v not_o set_v down_o in_o such_o evident_a term_n as_o be_v here_o mention_v as_o be_v clear_a to_o any_o who_o do_v consider_v 4._o there_o be_v many_o point_n of_o truth_n or_o many_o credenda_fw-la in_o the_o scripture_n which_o want_v such_o a_o evidence_n of_o revelation_n as_o be_v here_o require_v which_o yet_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v as_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n for_o it_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o lord_n have_v teach_v we_o many_o thing_n in_o the_o bible_n as_o it_o be_v on_o the_o bye_n and_o leave_v they_o to_o be_v gather_v from_o scripture_n assertion_n yea_o many_o time_n truth_n be_v couch_v in_o duty_n command_v as_o command_v also_o be_v comprehend_v in_o assertion_n and_o promise_n now_o if_o this_o clearness_n of_o term_n in_o the_o revelation_n of_o the_o credenda_fw-la of_o religion_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n to_o believe_v how_o be_v it_o imaginable_a that_o it_o shall_v be_v necessary_a in_o the_o revelation_n of_o the_o agenda_fw-la to_o bind_v the_o will_n to_o act_v see_v the_o lord_n do_v as_o peremptory_o require_v we_o to_o believe_v what_o he_o have_v say_v as_o to_o do_v what_o he_o have_v command_v 5._o for_o the_o exception_n that_o he_o make_v of_o the_o change_a some_o circumstance_n of_o old_a law_n i_o see_v not_o on_o what_o foundation_n of_o reason_n the_o difference_n between_o these_o and_o new_a law_n can_v stand_v but_o that_o this_o shift_n serve_v his_o purpose_n for_o to_o take_v his_o own_o instance_n suppose_v a_o stand_a law_n for_o a_o sabbath_n and_o that_o the_o seven_o day_n must_v be_v keep_v this_o circumstance_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v it_o that_o not_o the_o seven_o but_o the_o first_o day_n be_v keep_v be_v real_o a_o new_a law_n yea_o there_o be_v here_o two_o new_a law_n one_o abrogate_a what_o be_v before_o and_o make_v it_o no_o duty_n to_o keep_v the_o seven_o day_n another_o establish_v a_o new_a which_o be_v not_o before_o and_o make_v it_o a_o duty_n to_o keep_v the_o first_o day_n now_o if_o this_o may_v be_v think_v no_o oblige_a law_n of_o christ_n without_o that_o evidence_n of_o revelation_n which_o he_o talk_v of_o why_o may_v not_o another_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o such_o before_o if_o we_o be_v to_o look_v to_o apostolic_a practice_n as_o ground_v sufficient_a why_o we_o shall_v think_v it_o christ_n will_n that_o we_o shall_v keep_v the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n to_o the_o lord_n which_o be_v not_o do_v before_o why_o shall_v we_o not_o think_v the_o same_o ground_n sufficient_a why_o minister_n shall_v rule_v the_o church_n by_o a_o parity_n of_o authority_n yea_o reason_n will_v say_v that_o there_o be_v need_n of_o more_o clearness_n in_o the_o revelation_n of_o christ_n will_n for_o alter_v a_o stand_a law_n in_o such_o of_o its_o circumstance_n as_o do_v annul_v one_o duty_n and_o establish_v another_o than_o for_o settle_v that_o as_o duty_n which_o be_v altogether_o new_a see_v in_o the_o former_a we_o must_v both_o know_v the_o will_n of_o god_n in_o abrogate_a and_o establish_v in_o the_o late_a we_o be_v to_o know_v only_o that_o he_o will_v establish_v such_o a_o thing_n §_o 13._o in_o his_o examination_n of_o what_o make_v a_o unalterable_a divine_a right_n i_o agree_v to_o most_o that_o he_o teach_v only_o his_o postulatum_fw-la p._n 14._o one_o which_o he_o build_v all_o his_o assertion_n need_v to_o be_v a_o little_a clear_v he_o assert_v that_o nothing_o can_v be_v found_v on_o divine_a right_n nor_o bind_v believer_n as_o a_o positive_a law_n but_o what_o may_v be_v certain_o know_v to_o have_v come_v from_o god_n with_o a_o intention_n to_o bind_v believer_n to_o the_o world_n end_n where_o i_o only_o take_v notice_n that_o though_o plerophory_n in_o that_o case_n be_v very_o desirable_a yet_o such_o certainty_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o our_o obligation_n but_o so_o much_o knowledge_n of_o the_o will_n of_o god_n as_o may_v satisfy_v the_o conscience_n by_o jncline_v it_o to_o the_o one_o hand_n and_o not_o leave_v it_o absolute_o in_o suspense_n if_o this_o be_v not_o sufficient_a we_o shall_v take_v off_o all_o obligation_n of_o god_n positive_a law_n from_o most_o man_n for_o few_o have_v plerophorie_n in_o most_o thing_n i_o agree_v with_o he_o that_o a_o divine_a right_n be_v build_v on_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o on_o the_o immutable_a positive_a law_n of_o god_n also_o that_o these_o be_v three_o good_a mark_n of_o the_o immutability_n of_o divine_a positive_a law_n which_o he_o bring_v viz._n when_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o law_n remain_v when_o god_n have_v declare_v such_o a_o law_n never_o to_o be_v change_v when_o it_o conduce_v to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o society_n that_o he_o will_v have_v to_o continue_v only_o i_o can_v see_v how_o these_o espeeial_o the_o former_a two_o mark_n do_v consist_v with_o the_o mutability_n of_o that_o church_n government_n in_o these_o thing_n we_o controvert_v about_o which_o the_o apostle_n practise_v no_o doubt_n as_o be_v christ_n will_n and_o law_n see_v there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o parity_n now_o that_o then_o be_v and_o christ_n have_v not_o say_v that_o he_o will_v have_v it_o alter_v in_o after_o age_n §_o 14._o page_n 23._o he_o come_v to_o examine_v some_o pretence_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o call_v they_o for_o a_o divine_a right_n and_o first_o he_o labour_v to_o enervate_v the_o argument_n for_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o church-government_n take_v from_o apostolical_a practice_n of_o which_o he_o promise_v to_o say_v more_o after_o but_o what_o he_o here_o say_v we_o shall_v examine_v i_o yield_v to_o he_o that_o all_o scripture_n example_n do_v not_o bind_v neither_o do_v any_o example_n bind_v as_o a_o example_n also_o that_o the_o rule_n whereby_o we_o know_v what_o example_n do_v bind_v be_v not_o immediate_o
under_o different_a obligation_n to_o the_o same_o thing_n 3._o the_o same_o action_n may_v be_v a_o duty_n and_o a_o sin_n viz._n be_v forbid_v by_o the_o one_o power_n and_o command_v by_o the_o other_o ans._n 1._o he_o suppose_v which_o we_o will_v never_o yield_v to_o he_o that_o ceremony_n may_v be_v indifferent_a and_o imposeable_a by_o man_n nay_o all_o the_o ceremony_n of_o god_n worship_n be_v worship_n themselves_o be_v christ_n institution_n otherwise_o but_o will-worship_n and_o so_o himself_o understand_v ceremony_n p._n 68_o it_o be_v like_o forget_v what_o he_o here_o say_v 2._o it_o concern_v the_o author_n as_o much_o as_o it_o do_v we_o to_o answer_v his_o own_o objection_n for_o he_o ascribe_v to_o the_o church_n a_o intrinsical_a power_n of_o discipline_n now_o suppose_v one_o be_v excommunicate_v the_o church_n command_v it_o the_o magistrate_n forbid_v it_o if_o his_o prohibition_n do_v not_o null_a the_o former_a obligation_n the_o same_o absurdity_n follow_v that_o be_v mention_v in_o his_o reason_n if_o it_o do_v than_o this_o do_v as_o much_o destroy_v the_o power_n of_o discipline_n in_o that_o church_n which_o he_o assert_v as_o it_o destroy_v the_o power_n of_o determine_v about_o other_o church-matter_n which_o we_o assert_v 3._o we_o deny_v that_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o power_n can_v destroy_v the_o obligation_n to_o any_o church-act_n be_v otherwise_o warrantable_a lay_v on_o by_o the_o church_n or_o rather_o by_o christ_n the_o church_n declare_v his_o will_n for_o so_o the_o church_n only_o command_v otherwise_o we_o may_v as_o well_o say_v and_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v this_o man_n opinion_n if_o he_o believe_v what_o here_o he_o write_v that_o when_o the_o church_n ordain_v a_o minister_n and_o command_v he_o to_o preach_v christ_n the_o magistrate_n by_o forbid_v he_o to_o speak_v any_o more_o in_o that_o name_n make_v null_a the_o former_a obligation_n it_o be_v true_a the_o magistrate_n may_v in_o some_o case_n restrain_v the_o outward_a exercise_n of_o what_o we_o be_v so_o oblige_v to_o and_o also_o when_o he_o do_v injurious_o forbid_v such_o exercise_n we_o may_v be_v in_o some_o case_n oblige_v to_o cede_fw-la to_o this_o violence_n but_o neither_o of_o these_o destroy_v our_o obligation_n to_o our_o duty_n neither_o the_o power_n by_o which_o it_o be_v lay_v on_o more_o than_o the_o magistrate_n do_v destroy_v my_o obligation_n to_o obey_v my_o father_n or_o his_o power_n over_o i_o when_o he_o put_v i_o in_o prison_n and_o so_o i_o can_v do_v what_o my_o father_n command_v the_o absurdity_n that_o he_o will_v fright_v we_o with_o do_v not_o follow_v from_o our_o opinion_n but_o from_o his_o own_o false_a supposition_n for_o the_o first_o it_o be_v not_o absurd_a that_o there_o shall_v be_v two_o supreme_a power_n about_o thing_n so_o different_a that_o one_o power_n can_v have_v they_o both_o for_o its_o formal_a object_n will_v not_o the_o author_n grant_v that_o minister_n have_v the_o supreme_a preach_a power_n that_o be_v not_o subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o the_o magistrate_n the_o supreme_a civil_a power_n why_o not_o then_o that_o they_o have_v the_o supreme_a roll_a power_n in_o church_n affair_n these_o power_n need_v not_o clash_n though_o they_o be_v not_o subordinate_a be_v about_o thing_n so_o different_a as_o be_v this_o world_n and_o that_o which_o be_v to_o come_v the_o soul_n and_o the_o body_n but_o this_o man_n fear_v that_o caesar_n be_v dethrone_v if_o we_o confess_v christ_n to_o be_v a_o king_n and_o so_o will_v have_v christ_n kingdom_n subordinate_a to_o caesar_n for_o the_o second_o there_o can_v be_v two_o obligation_n here_o for_o if_o the_o church_n keep_v within_o her_o limit_n her_o command_n be_v christ_n and_o so_o any_o contrary_a obligation_n must_v be_v null_a if_o not_o her_o authority_n lay_v on_o no_o obligation_n for_o the_o three_o it_o be_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o it_o admit_v of_o the_o same_o answer_n §_o 8._o have_v make_v the_o magistrate_n the_o sole_a judge_n and_o determiner_n in_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n even_o ceremony_n themselves_o our_o author_n proceed_v p._n 49._o to_o examine_v the_o extent_n of_o his_o power_n assert_v in_o his_o former_a hypothesis_n and_o here_o he_o proceed_v by_o three_o step_n 1._o that_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n leave_v undetermined_a by_o the_o word_n this_o we_o assent_n to_o as_o it_o be_v here_o set_v down_o but_o can_v understand_v it_o as_o he_o do_v which_o appear_v a_o little_a after_o of_o ceremony_n but_o rather_o of_o bare_a circumstance_n of_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n if_o he_o take_v these_o for_o one_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a of_o the_o nature_n of_o both_o neither_o of_o the_o species_n of_o church-government_n for_o which_o this_o indifferency_n of_o thing_n be_v here_o assert_v what_o he_o discourse_v here_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o indifferency_n i_o shall_v not_o insist_v upon_o intend_v to_o meet_v with_o it_o elsewhere_o only_o i_o take_v notice_n of_o his_o concession_n p_o 53._o that_o in_o thing_n whole_o indifferent_a both_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o common_a nature_n and_o their_o use_n and_o end_n that_o be_v neither_o command_v nor_o tend_v to_o the_o peace_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n there_o can_v be_v no_o reason_n why_o the_o nature_n of_o these_o thing_n shall_v be_v alter_v by_o humane_a law_n wherefore_o matter_n that_o be_v indifferent_a as_o to_o a_o command_n but_o be_v much_o conduce_v to_o the_o peace_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o proper_a matter_n of_o humane_a constitution_n concern_v the_o church_n policy_n let_v it_o be_v here_o consider_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o proper_o indifferent_a but_o command_v viz._n where_o the_o peace_n and_o order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v enjoin_v and_o if_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n representative_a not_o of_o the_o magistrate_n to_o judge_v what_o thing_n be_v thus_o conducible_a to_o peace_n and_o order_n and_o to_o hold_v forth_o the_o do_v of_o these_o as_o the_o law_n of_o christ._n §_o 9_o his_o second_o step_n be_v that_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n may_v be_v determine_v and_o restrain_v and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o the_o wrong_v of_o christian_n liberty_n so_o to_o do_v and_o this_o he_o do_v very_o large_o prove_v against_o some_o as_o he_o pretend_v of_o great_a note_n and_o learning_n i_o wonder_v who_o they_o be_v for_o i_o never_o meet_v with_o any_o who_o do_v deny_v what_o he_o assert_v it_o be_v true_a that_o many_o do_v and_o that_o warrantable_o maintain_v that_o where_o christ_n have_v leave_v we_o free_a man_n have_v no_o power_n by_o his_o mere_a will_n to_o restrain_v we_o especial_o in_o thing_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n but_o all_o do_v acknowledge_v so_o far_o as_o i_o know_v that_o in_o thing_n though_o not_o express_o command_v which_o by_o their_o nature_n or_o circumstance_n be_v make_v conducible_a to_o the_o end_n that_o christ_n have_v enjoin_v we_o to_o endeavour_v the_o church_n may_v enjoin_v we_o and_o that_o without_o make_v any_o new_a law_n but_o by_o declare_v the_o will_n of_o god_n this_o and_o no_o more_o do_v all_o the_o argument_n which_o the_o author_n with_o much_o pain_n have_v set_v down_o conclude_v and_o indeed_o if_o our_o author_n have_v once_o prove_v the_o species_n of_o church_n government_n to_o be_v indifferent_a we_o shall_v not_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v determinable_a and_o imposeable_a not_o by_o the_o magistrate_n but_o by_o the_o church_n in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o his_o argument_n there_o occur_v several_a thing_n that_o i_o can_v assent_v to_o but_o they_o not_o be_v to_o the_o question_n in_o hand_n and_o intend_v to_o touch_v some_o of_o they_o in_o a_o treatise_n elsewhere_o i_o pass_v they_o here_o he_o have_v some_o greedy_a hint_n after_o obey_v whatever_o be_v command_v though_o unlawful_a the_o non-obligation_n of_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n which_o do_v discover_v his_o spirit_n though_o the_o author_n do_v state_n the_o question_n as_o have_v be_v say_v yet_o all_o his_o reason_n whereby_o from_o p._n 56._o he_o prove_v the_o determination_n of_o indifferent_a thing_n not_o to_o take_v away_o our_o liberty_n do_v prove_v as_o much_o that_o determination_n ground_v on_o man_n mere_a will_n do_v not_o take_v it_o away_o for_o in_o that_o case_n there_o may_v be_v leave_v a_o liberty_n of_o judgement_n and_o there_o may_v be_v no_o necessity_n antecedent_n to_o the_o command_n as_o he_o say_v in_o his_o first_o argument_n also_o in_o that_o case_n the_o determine_n of_o the_o thing_n suppose_v they_o to_o be_v matter_n of_o liberty_n which_o be_v a_o second_o medium_n and_o the_o obligation_n in_o that_o case_n be_v only_o in_o respect_n